Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Discussions related to the physiological and psychological effects of peak oil on our members and future generations.

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 09 May 2006, 03:39:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '.')..

You say it is my fault I do not have land and own it outright before shit hits the fan, and I say you're an idiot.



That's exactly what I say. Its your fault. No one else's. Plain and simple your fault. Instead of dreaming being like Attila the Hun, you should have build your wealth like I did.

I'm 43 years old working as an Author/Journailist, have recently sold all my investment properties and share portfolios I build during the last 20 years.

Therfore I was able to buy my 17 acres in cash, no mortgage, was able to put the rest into gold, which is doing quite well at the moment and did some clever investments.

I don't have to work anymore, don't have to pay rent, don't owe anything to anybody. Shit, I missed my chance to become a plundering, robbing, killing, antisocial thief like you in your post PO society. What a petty ...

Yes, I know, I'm an Idiot :P Now that you opened my eyes. My preparations are absolutely useless. Geez, why didn't I think that way myself ... :roll:


Well I am 24, and even though I have a fair amount of savings, there isn't enough land at a value cheap enough for me to own outright. Not for about 3-4 more years anyhow. Unlike you I have to buy in a "boom" and you also have 20 more years on me. In case you missed my other thread, if I was born only 4 years earlier I would now own 2 houses with the wages I have received thus far and home prices at the time.

So yes, you are an idiot thinking everyone is like you.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 09 May 2006, 03:41:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'r')e: Assaulting and holding someone elses land...

After you've taken this land by force, exactly why would Bob, two parcel's and a half mile away, not simply choose to snipe you from his porch some evening. He knew Joe, and probably had handshake agreements with him over peaches or grazing or swapping catfish for corn. You take Joe's farm, all your new neighbors are 1) gonna be real upset. 2) greed factor, you've got no rightful claim to that farm, so they got no reason not to just snipe you some evening and give Joe's farm to their son.

You've chosen a very unlikely course towards long term survival.


I would kill everyone in the area, for a long distance. Or choose a homestead far from everyone.

Even in your scenario where I didn't kill everyone except for the one homestead. Do you think magically Bob is going to know Joe was killed? Bob is going to have to come up to Joe's house and when he does he can say goodbye to his skull.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby rwwff » Tue 09 May 2006, 03:46:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')I would kill everyone in the area, for a long distance. Or choose a homestead far from everyone.


Right.
User avatar
rwwff
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2601
Joined: Fri 28 Apr 2006, 03:00:00
Location: East Texas

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Lighthouse » Tue 09 May 2006, 04:50:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '
')I'm 43 years old working as an Author/Journailist, have recently sold all my investment properties and share portfolios I build during the last 20 years.


OK, let's suppose you had been born 10 years afterwards. Do you still think you could have done it?


Yes, as a matter of fact. I lost nearly everything 12 years ago.
User avatar
Lighthouse
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1290
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Tue 09 May 2006, 05:24:16

Nice Mad Max thread, but I've got some delusion to bust...


I'm from Holland. here the problem is recognized. 80 trajects/paths to divert our way of life away from oil have been identified.

Sorry pal, last time I looked Holland had plenty of roads, airports and oil dependant infrastructure. You're "80 paths" are only leading you to denile.
---
Battle_Scarred_Galactico
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 935
Joined: Thu 07 Apr 2005, 03:00:00

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 09 May 2006, 05:40:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'Y')eah and if wishes were horses we all would be eating steaks. All you need is one good idea and the passion not to stop unless you have made it happen. There was a student in the UK who sold 1,000,000 pixels on his website for 1$ each. Great idea, very original. Ask your brain. One great idea is not much to ask for. :evil:


:lol:

Still living the dream I see. If making "a million bucks" was easy everyone would be millionaires. If you think it is that easy why haven't you had a great idea?

:lol:
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Lighthouse » Tue 09 May 2006, 06:39:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')
:lol:

Still living the dream I see. If making "a million bucks" was easy everyone would be millionaires. If you think it is that easy why haven't you had a great idea?

:lol:


All you came up with is the idea of becoming a plundering, murdering arson, a thief, a parasite living of the work of other people. You must be very proud of yourself.

Yes, I'm living the dream, I am successfully walking the talk.

You need an idea but your brain is blank?

Make me an offer I can't resist. (Making a Million is easy. It's just your brain, which is in the way :-D )

PS I like your new avatar! :wink:
User avatar
Lighthouse
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1290
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 09 May 2006, 10:01:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'A')ll you came up with is the idea of becoming a plundering, murdering arson, a thief, a parasite living of the work of other people. You must be very proud of yourself.


I'm not the one who thinks those things are wrong, you do. So putting them all into a sentence like that doesn't shock me, though it might shock the religious people you want attention with.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'P')S I like your new avatar! :wink:


Jesus told me do it.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Lighthouse » Tue 09 May 2006, 10:26:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', 'I')'m not the one who thinks those things are wrong, you do. So putting them all into a sentence like that doesn't shock me, though it might shock the religious people you want attention with...


Being a plundering, murdering arson, a thief, a parasite living of the work of other people is considered wrong not only by religious people it is as well considered as wrong, sick, and rotten by secular communities.

But you are quite entertaining, I'll give you that. :lol:
User avatar
Lighthouse
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1290
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Tue 09 May 2006, 10:33:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', 'I')'m not the one who thinks those things are wrong, you do. So putting them all into a sentence like that doesn't shock me, though it might shock the religious people you want attention with...


Being a plundering, murdering arson, a thief, a parasite living of the work of other people is considered wrong not only by religious people it is as well considered as wrong, sick, and rotten by secular communities.


A parasite is a part of any healthy ecosystem.

I think any community that has intelligence will merely treat you as you are. There is no point doing things to people which they think is wrong 24 hours a day. Like for instance I could just kill you and your 3 sons, move into your house and the community might be fine with it as long as I don't "wrong" them. I might work harder than you (hey im younger and stronger) or maybe I'm better looking, so it works out better for them. My stories might keep their kids interested whilst they go out to the barn and make more. I'm a valuable asset. Everything isn't black and white and fear can certainly work in your favour sometimes.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Lighthouse » Tue 09 May 2006, 19:54:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')
...

I think any community that has intelligence will merely treat you as you are. There is no point doing things to people which they think is wrong 24 hours a day. Like for instance I could just kill you and your 3 sons, move into your house and the community might be fine with it as long as I don't "wrong" them.



You see you forget that you do not know what connection your victim may have in the community. Take me for example. I have an extensive network in my community. I'm a member of the rural fire brigade. I'm-first-aid officer of the under 9 Rugby team. I'm volunteering at the local school. I help everyone whenever I can. (and so on). Do you really think this community would accept you after you killed me and my family and took possession of our property?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')I might work harder than you (hey im younger and stronger) or maybe I'm better looking, so it works out better for them. My stories might keep their kids interested whilst they go out to the barn and make more. I'm a valuable asset.


No you are not. You are a thread, a danger to the community, you are a liability. The local community would never accept you, they would always be suspicious and scared about you. You never could be trusted. How can they be ever sure that you will not kill them and take possession of their property if you sick and tired of my land?

I think it would not take very long before they will come in a pack and pick you up and hang you on the next tree in my garden.

Not a nice position you would have put yourself in.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')Everything isn't black and white and fear can certainly work in your favour sometimes.


Only sometimes and then not even for a very long period ...
User avatar
Lighthouse
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1290
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby seven » Wed 10 May 2006, 01:14:19

A hard crash would be much better for the environment and most creatures, and would quickly reduce the human population to a more ecologically sound and sustainable number. Of course, it would also necessarily be an absolutely staggering global disaster for those living at the time, and all those born within the initial readjustment period.

Although a soft landing would be more comfortable and provide an interim period, particularly for first worlders to acclimate to the much harsher world that is probably down the road, we would doubtless seriously compound the destruction of our environment by desperate uses of coal, further degradation of arable land and over-fishing/pollution of waters, etc. Similarly to how we have cheated future generations by overusing and abusing resources, a soft landing with the ensuing scrabble of last minute consumption would further cheat future generations while mainly benefitting ourselves.

(Of course, one respected expert believes that because of global warming most humans will be dead by 2100 anyway, so it may all be a moot point)

If we did have a choice, I would opt for the hard crash because it is much better for the environment both short and long term, and seriously trims the population to a more sustainable number - a culling which would happen sooner or later anyway, via pandemics and other natural causes. I'm not blind to the hardship and suffering that a hard crash would create, but believe that it would be by far the most beneficial for nature and humanity in the long run.
User avatar
seven
Peat
Peat
 
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue 09 May 2006, 03:00:00
Location: Kansas City

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby magician » Wed 10 May 2006, 01:45:12

for the record it was me who condoned eating dead people. if mine are hungry id do it. however that would be a complete failure on my part and a damning condemnation of my intellect that I or mine should be in such a situation. ill stand by that one. I dont claim to be violent. I actually favor a situation where I can use my skills:

1)backwoods medicine
2)very skilled herbalist (wild plant ID for medicinal and edible)
3)wilderness survival instructer
4)organic bio-intensive gardening
5)crack shot at the range (feel the shot on those 250 yd .22lr shots)
6)mad ninja skills and lots of war gear
7)sorcery and shamanism

This would be much better if I was not killing and eating people who may or may not shoot back. or storming properties. however I am incredibly violence capable. if it hits hard the wife and i (we are 25) will hit the brush and live away from everyone using my woods ninja skills. thats when it could get violent. the best outcome is to find someone with land and a good head on their shoulders and pony up with them for an exchange of services. I am actively developing such relationships in my community right now. not waiting to be a warlord as others here are.

--fr coyote
magician
Peat
Peat
 
Posts: 94
Joined: Sun 26 Feb 2006, 04:00:00
Location: outside of consensus reality

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 10 May 2006, 03:11:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '.')..A parasite is a part of any healthy ecosystem...I think any community that has intelligence will merely treat you as you are...


...and flush the parasite out of its system immediately.

Grow up, kid. You've been playing too many video games. If TS really does HTF, somebody who behaves like you claim you're going to will be eliminated in extremely short order. Any group that qualifies as a "community" will have zero tolerance for that sort of thing.
User avatar
Zardoz
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 6323
Joined: Fri 02 Dec 2005, 04:00:00
Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby Lighthouse » Wed 10 May 2006, 08:55:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('magician', '
')
1)backwoods medicine
2)very skilled herbalist (wild plant ID for medicinal and edible)
3)wilderness survival instructer
4)organic bio-intensive gardening
5)crack shot at the range (feel the shot on those 250 yd .22lr shots)
6)mad ninja skills and lots of war gear
7)sorcery and shamanism



With this set of skills you will be a welcome addition to every community. I would love to have someone like you in the neighbourhood...
User avatar
Lighthouse
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1290
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 10 May 2006, 23:11:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '.')..and flush the parasite out of its system immediately.

Grow up, kid. You've been playing too many video games. If TS really does HTF, somebody who behaves like you claim you're going to will be eliminated in extremely short order. Any group that qualifies as a "community" will have zero tolerance for that sort of thing.


The most successful parasites are the ones the host doesn't know about. When/if you go into a community there I might be, your best friend, and you'll never know it. Woop woop. Super Mario time.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Wed 10 May 2006, 23:13:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seven', 'A') hard crash would be much better for the environment and most creatures, and would quickly reduce the human population to a more ecologically sound and sustainable number. Of course, it would also necessarily be an absolutely staggering global disaster for those living at the time, and all those born within the initial readjustment period.

Although a soft landing would be more comfortable and provide an interim period, particularly for first worlders to acclimate to the much harsher world that is probably down the road, we would doubtless seriously compound the destruction of our environment by desperate uses of coal, further degradation of arable land and over-fishing/pollution of waters, etc. Similarly to how we have cheated future generations by overusing and abusing resources, a soft landing with the ensuing scrabble of last minute consumption would further cheat future generations while mainly benefitting ourselves.

(Of course, one respected expert believes that because of global warming most humans will be dead by 2100 anyway, so it may all be a moot point)

If we did have a choice, I would opt for the hard crash because it is much better for the environment both short and long term, and seriously trims the population to a more sustainable number - a culling which would happen sooner or later anyway, via pandemics and other natural causes. I'm not blind to the hardship and suffering that a hard crash would create, but believe that it would be by far the most beneficial for nature and humanity in the long run.


Welcome to the "smart" side of the fence. Make sure you bring enough bread so you can break it off and feed it to the pigeons like Lighthouse and Zardoz.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Thu 11 May 2006, 03:12:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '
')Welcome to the "smart" side of the fence. Make sure you bring enough bread so you can break it off and feed it to the pigeons like Lighthouse and Zardoz.


I had a good laugh reading this. Its really funny.

So lets compare PolestaR with Lighthouse (that would be me):

According to his posts on this board Polestar 24 has no skills, no money, no house, no place to stay but he is prepared to come and shoot me and my 3 sons to take over my land. He is prepared to kill, to steal and commit other cruel atrocities to survive. He is brave enough to kill Grandma and 4 year old girls.

Lighthouse owns his land, his house, does not have an mortgage or debts. He is able to live of the land and has extensive connections within his community.

Hard or soft crash who do you think will be fed bread through the fence or worse ends up as nitrogen source under some fruit trees?


As we have already told you lighthouse, you are old, unable to comprehend english (except for some select phrases) and above all that you are set in your ways and unwilling to change. So any paraphrasing or "summing up" by you is always going to be suspect.

I only hope that magician is the one who breaks into your house and feasts on your family. ;)
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby PolestaR » Thu 11 May 2006, 07:01:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lighthouse', 'I')nteresting and funny is, you don not recognise sarcasm even it jumps with it's naked bum directly in the centre your face.


Interpreting sarcasm over the internet is almost as hard as trying to figure out whether you or the milkman is the father of your 3 sons.

You might be new to the medium, so figure out some better ways to convey it.
Bringing sexy back..... to doom
PolestaR
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 955
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: I think I might prefer a "hard crash" ...

Unread postby SoothSayer » Thu 11 May 2006, 08:05:56

I have read that 2% of the population are psychopaths.

Reading some of the recent posts here I now believe that.

I can only assume that at least one person here is :
- a male teenager
and/or
- a true psychopath
and/or
- an attention seeker

I am SOOO glad that I am no longer an adolescent ...

As the originator of this thread, I am also sad that it has been hijacked by one or more weak minded imbeciles who have too much time on their hands.

The Intermet is a very powerful tool - but it is also a magnet for verbiage spouting morons hiding behind anonymity.
User avatar
SoothSayer
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1167
Joined: Thu 02 Mar 2006, 04:00:00
Location: England

PreviousNext

Return to Medical Issues Forum

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests