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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby NordicHero » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:40:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'I') think that these supreme white thoughts should be placed on this website in ALL CAPS, just so that everyone can not miss his thinking.


Supreme white thoughts huh?...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')urely, we all have met someone like this. Shaved head; body disguised in tattoos, clearly showing a deep underlying shame of being all white. Thoughts that are controlled, but angry and distorted. Pretend to be intellectual, but all the while being, and knowing the intellectual deficit that exist inside.


Prof. MacDonald devotes many pages to an analysis of The Authoritarian Personality, which was written by Adorno and appeared in 1950. It was part of a series called Studies in Prejudice, produced by the Frankfurt school, which included titles like Anti-Semitism and Emotional Disorder. The Authoritarian Personality was particularly influential because, according to Prof. MacDonald, the American Jewish Committee heavily funded its promotion and because Jewish academics took up its message so enthusiastically.

The book's purpose is to make every group affiliation sound as if it were a sign of mental disorder. Everything from patriotism to religion to family – and race – loyalty are signs of a dangerous and defective "authoritarian personality." Because drawing distinctions between different groups is illegitimate, all group loyalties – even close family ties! – are "prejudice." As Christopher Lasch has written, the book leads to the conclusion that prejudice "could be eradicated only by subjecting the American people to what amounted to collective psychotherapy – by treating them as inmates of an insane asylum."

...As Prof. MacDonald puts it, "Viewed at its most abstract level, a fundamental agenda is thus to influence the European-derived peoples of the United States to view concern about their own demographic and cultural eclipse as irrational and as an indication of psychopathology." Needless to say, this project has been successful; anyone opposed to the displacement of whites is routinely treated as a mentally unhinged "hate-monger," and whenever whites defend their group interests they are described as psychologically inadequate. The irony has not escaped Prof. MacDonald: "The ideology that ethnocentrism was a form of psychopathology was promulgated by a group that over its long history had arguably been the most ethnocentric group among all the cultures of the world."
-- from the book review.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ea, surely the Jewes or the blacks or the Hispanics are really the cause of oil being a depletable resource.


So the 25 million or so Mexicans, for example, now living in the United States don't consume energy? They don't affect our balance of payments with other nations with respect to imported oil? They don't increase White flight into the suburbs? Not to mention all the other ill effects of their presence here...

I certainly never implied that "blacks and mestizos" are the cause of oil depletion, but their presence here in large numbers is an exacerbating condition.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby gego » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:16:54

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So the 25 million or so Mexicans, for example, now living in the United States don't consume energy? They don't affect our balance of payments with other nations with respect to imported oil? They don't increase White flight into the suburbs? Not to mention all the other ill effects of their presence here...

I certainly never implied that "blacks and mestizos" are the cause of oil depletion, but their presence here in large numbers is an exacerbating condition.


Maybe if the Hispanics in the US were back down in Mexico or back in Spain, and they consumed the same amount of energy then they would not be consuming oil and gas? If blacks and other non whites were not consuming oil then they would not be be contributing to the oil depletion problem, true, but if whites were not consuming oil then they also would not be contributing to the oil depletion problem. Since you chose to blame the "blacks and mestizos", you show your bias. Whites have a right to consume oil, but blacks and mestizos do not??

Pretent to be intellectual and pure in your arguments, but the reality is that you are a fucked up mind, contributing nothing to this site but your hatred, stemming from your own inferiority.

The oil depletion problem has nothing to do with race or religion. It has to do with human nature and principles of physics.

You know deep down that you are a fucked up loser, who only can feel good about himself standing upon the back of those groups that you chose to deem inferior so that your pimple up white skin can can give you some sense of superiority. It is only you who do not recognize your disturbed mind.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby NordicHero » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:27:31

Let's do some quick math. There are 300 million Americans consuming 20 million barrels of oil per day. That's 15 million people for 1 million barrels of oil consumed.

If all 25 million Mexicans simply went home, America would probably consume something like 1.8 million less barrels per day. Coincidentally, Mexico is our top supplier of oil (as well as wretched refuse), and they send us around 1.7 million bpd.

So they would consume their own oil in their own country. Meanwhile America would save hundreds of billions of dollars in oil imports, social welfare and criminal justice, education, and money lost to remittances sent south of the border.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby NordicHero » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:35:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'P')retent to be intellectual and pure in your arguments, but the reality is that you are a fucked up mind, contributing nothing to this site but your hatred, stemming from your own inferiority.


Who and what do I hate? To whom am I inferior?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he oil depletion problem has nothing to do with race or religion. It has to do with human nature and principles of physics.


Are you saying that America's massive petroleum dependence is not an effect of automobile suburbs which are largely a product and consequence of White flight?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou know deep down that you are a fucked up loser, who only can feel good about himself standing upon the back of those groups that you chose to deem inferior so that your pimple up white skin can can give you some sense of superiority. It is only you who do not recognize your disturbed mind.


Classy.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby gego » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:44:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NordicHero', 'L')et's do some quick math. There are 300 million Americans consuming 20 million barrels of oil per day. That's 15 million people for 1 million barrels of oil consumed.

If all 25 million Mexicans simply went home, America would probably consume something like 1.8 million less barrels per day. Incidentally, Mexico is our top supplier of oil, and they send us around 1.7 million bpd.

So they would consume their own oil in their own country. Meanwhile America would save hundreds of billions of dollars in oil imports, social welfare and criminal justice, education, and money lost to remittances sent south of the border.


To show your racism, lest us assume that people who immigrate to the USA use oil and are a burden upon the system. In that case, we need to evict every white, black and yellow person who has come into this country which was originally the territory of American Indians. So you, Mr. Superior Whitty, need to pack your bags and go back to where ever your ancestors came from, for surely if you are truly all white as you seem to be proud of, then you are not an original inhabitant.

You want anyone without white skin plus the Jews to leave because they, as you perceive are the illigitimate consumers and cause of oil problems in the USA.

Whites are a considerable burden upon the government dole as well as are blacks and others. The problem is not who is dependent, but that the socialist crack heads who run the government keep using the dole as a means to buy votes.

Losers always want to blame others for their failures. This is the basis of white supremecy. Just a bunch of losers congregating together, looking for reasons why their problems are not their own doing, and are the doing of Jews, or Niggers, or Chinks, or Spics.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby coyote » Tue 09 May 2006, 00:50:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NordicHero', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', ' ')You are entitled to your opinion, however ridiculous and damaging it may be.


Care to point out exactly what is ridiculous? Also, would you mind elaborating on how this factual information is damaging?

Well, let's see. I can't look at the rest of the article here at work, because:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he requested URL http://216.239.138.244:80/miscellx/culturec.html will not be opened for the following reason: racist/ethnic intolerance, militant/extremist. Watchguard FireBox Message 138

You might want to think about that for a moment.

Factual information? I haven't read a single fact from you or your source, just claims. And yes they are damaging, because they increase distrust and hatred and give desperate people something completely inappropriate and wrongheaded to latch onto, so they can cause more damage in turn. Paranoia is the last thing we need right now, we've got enough real problems on our plate. As for what is ridiculous, that pretty much covers all of what you and the racist professor *claim.* You might want to look back over your posts and see how many actual *facts* you can find. However, I'm not about to start debating it point by point with you. I'm getting increasingly tired of having to do that. In any case your biggest problem isn't intellectual, it's emotional. I hope you figure out what's right someday. In the meantime...

Peace.
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It'll be those who gave their island to survive...
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby bart » Tue 09 May 2006, 01:55:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbare', 'H')ey Bart, read Chomsky.
Do you mean Chomsky on Israel or on defending Holocaust-deniers?

I have read Chomsky and I think I agree with him on both issues.

But the question for peakoil.com is something else. No one is talking about throwing NH into prison for his beliefs or speech. That would be a freedom of speech issue.

The question here is -- does one provide a platform, a megaphone for racist beliefs? It has nothing at all to do with freedom of speech. The moderators at peakoil.com have a perfect right to squelch an obnoxious thread. And in some instances, they have a duty to do so.

NH is free to publish his opinions, without fear of persecution or imprisonment. But he has no rights at all, when it comes to a publication or website controlled by someone else.

There are several reasons not to allow posts like this:

1. It has nothing to do with peak oil or resource depletion.
2. It bring discredit to Peak Oil and peakoil.com.
3. It promotes hate and racism.
4. It is a waste of time to argue with Anti-Semitic theorists.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 09 May 2006, 03:18:27

Hanah Arendt in her monumental study, The Origins Of Totalitarianism pointed out that the European resentment against Jews had part of its origins in resentment of their tight communal spirit. Modernism had destroyed the Christian communal spirit, but the Jews, with their long history of defensive reactions to a hostile world, were more resistant to the caustic, dissolving effects of the modern world. Some kind of binding mythos seems to be very neccessary for human beings. We need a history and customs and a connection to the past and our ancestors. Now I do think that it's verging on paranoia to blame the majorities' loss of community on the Jews, but the reality of the Jews' resistance to the community-dissolving influence of modernity should be understood and appreciated for the lesson it gives us all.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby Doly » Tue 09 May 2006, 03:26:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'M')odernism had destroyed the Christian communal spirit, but the Jews, with their long history of defensive reactions to a hostile world, were more resistant to the caustic, dissolving effects of the modern world.


If the Jews have a history of hostility against them, you don't really need to invent new reasons why people were hostile.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 09 May 2006, 04:10:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'M')odernism had destroyed the Christian communal spirit, but the Jews, with their long history of defensive reactions to a hostile world, were more resistant to the caustic, dissolving effects of the modern world.


If the Jews have a history of hostility against them, you don't really need to invent new reasons why people were hostile.
I've tried to parse this, doly, and my conclusion is that you have a history of hostility toward me. I think you are struggling against an unconscious fondness for PMS. :-D
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby Doly » Tue 09 May 2006, 08:29:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'ve tried to parse this, doly, and my conclusion is that you have a history of hostility toward me. I think you are struggling against an unconscious fondness for PMS. :-D


Or maybe we use the same method for browsing forums at the same times and we keep bumping into each other? :-D

I'm not particularly hostile towards you, I just suffer from a Devil's Advocate complex. I actually think you are one of the cool members of PO.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby holmes » Tue 09 May 2006, 11:29:23

and non whity racists, commies and socialists have SOOOOOOOO much to offer PO.com? Hey admins why dont you all post the works of stalin on the front page of PO.com. It would fit perfectly. Cannibalism 101.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby holmes » Tue 09 May 2006, 11:32:59

and judging by the sympathy shone towards the Terrorist nations and their leaders that would have us all beheaded why dont you post the book of Islam and change it from english to arabian and spanish. Awesome! You know America is the "one" evil.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby threadbear » Tue 09 May 2006, 12:36:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'H')anah Arendt in her monumental study, The Origins Of Totalitarianism pointed out that the European resentment against Jews had part of its origins in resentment of their tight communal spirit. Modernism had destroyed the Christian communal spirit, but the Jews, with their long history of defensive reactions to a hostile world, were more resistant to the caustic, dissolving effects of the modern world. Some kind of binding mythos seems to be very neccessary for human beings. We need a history and customs and a connection to the past and our ancestors. Now I do think that it's verging on paranoia to blame the majorities' loss of community on the Jews, but the reality of the Jews' resistance to the community-dissolving influence of modernity should be understood and appreciated for the lesson it gives us all.


Alright PMS--You summed it up beautifully. This little crowd is rallying around apocolyptic visions, like peak oil, but lacking a redeemer God or gods to provide a rallying point, and give suffering some meaning..

The reason neo-Nazis and peak oil theory go hand in hand so nicely, is Peak Oil has an exclusive though negatively oriented message. Many here are Social Darwinists who happily cling to the assertion that only really intelligent people (like themselves) will stand a chance in the future. How is this different than neo-Nazism? It actually takes it one step further. Peak Oilers often hate everybody, regardless of race creed or colour.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have the therapeutic community, who have replaced God with Skinner, Freud and Jung, They want to rescue the people-haters from their parents and other abusers. Hilarious and not useful with this crowd. These people need a guiding mythology that leaves them feeling empowered, with their family ties intact. Why would they be attracted to an ideology that tells them that rather than being powerful, they are children that have to be rescued?

What people should be doing, if they want to be succesful, is to tighten positive ties with family and extended family and their immediate communites, as you have described. When you sever family ties, you are further severing ties with your past and this is something that relationship based communites just do not do.

If you want a blueprint for successful group dynamics, do what the Christian-Zionist fundy community are doing. And as Nordic has emphasized-- These groups are working synergistically, and in tandem, having great effect on domestic and international politics. They can only be defeated by others observing what has made them successful, and mirroring them.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby foodnotlawns » Tue 09 May 2006, 13:48:56

Hey Nordic Hero!

Welcome to the Peak Oil forum!

Have you ever listened to the goyfire broadcasts at www.goyfire.com Some good stuff.

I am trying to convince non-Jewish White people to imitate Jewish strategies. However, dishonesty is a large factor in Jewish success, and it's hard for many of us to be crooks. its not in us, it's not in me, that's for sure.

Also, slavery is a large part of Jewish culture. That's one of the ways they accumulate so much money -- slavery, pimping, the drug trade, usury, and control of governments and starting wars and funding both sides, and then taking massive reparations out of the winner.

The Federal Reserve is a private Jewish bank that controls our money supply. What mroe do you need to know? Also, the Jewish lobby got us into World War I, see Benjamin Freedman's tract, which I've linked in other posts.

But I think that the collapse of civilization will take some out of the wind out of the sails of the Jewish Pirate Ship http://www.peakoil.com/modules/Forums/i ... iggrin.gif

Good luck not getting banned!
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 09 May 2006, 13:59:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
') This little crowd is rallying around apocolyptic visions, like peak oil, but lacking a redeemer God or gods to provide a rallying point, and give suffering some meaning..

Many here are Social Darwinists who happily cling to the assertion that only really intelligent people (like themselves) will stand a chance in the future.

On the other end of the spectrum, we have the therapeutic community, who have replaced God with Skinner, Freud and Jung,
It is part of the fascination of this forum that the range of mentalities is so broad. The peak oil questions in themselves have only so much intrinsic interest. After awhile, one just gives up and says, "OK let's just wait and see." But the people here are an interesting motley crew.
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Re: The Culture of Critique

Postby kam30en » Mon 29 May 2006, 13:35:51

NoridHero, I am jewish, and I don't care so much that you hate Jews, as I understand why you do. The reason you hate Jews is because you are upset at what you perceive as a foreign people who make alot of money and have alot of power. There are ALOT of poor and middle class jews who have no power and who have low income jobs. Some of these jews may be very frugal and save there money, creating business and becoming rich. My grandfather came to this country with nothing, he became a metalworker, saved his money, and opened his own shop. He saved more money and bought real estate. He never once funded or helped promote non-white immigration. All he did was look and plan for the future. Saying that jews, ALL JEWS, are responsible for non-white immigration is crazy. I am against non-white immigration, as is most of my family. Never once have I looked at a family of Jamaicans and thought, we need more of these people. Still, some jews might have pushed for non-white immigration. But saying that jews are responsible for peak oil is COMPLETELY INSANE. Last time I checked, everyone was and is burning oil, gas, and coal. The pioneers of the oil industry were not jewish. Even without suburbs, we would eventually hit peak oil. Oh, and didn't Hitler want every german to have an automobile. But maybe if the Nazis had won they would've figured out how to get the abiotic oil.
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