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Unread postby 12amps » Mon 08 May 2006, 13:35:25

sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, (please direct me to a GOOD forum for this type of question if you know of one)

I'd like to BURN a few jpeg images PERMENTANTLY on a camera chip
(those thin rectangular ones about the size of a quarter)
I'd like to do it so that it is not able to be erased, deleted, altered, ediitted, and/or remove/formatted.

how can I have a program to acccomplish something like this??


any ideas?

PS I have heard somewhere that there are programs that can write a image to a disk over and over again until it is 'burned' onto it, is this possible? Or can I somehow make the file attribute to locked so that it is physically impossible for anyone to then erase the file?
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby Specop_007 » Mon 08 May 2006, 13:45:39

Anandtech forums

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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby 12amps » Mon 08 May 2006, 13:48:09

to clarify, I have a 1GB SD card (Apacer Hi-Speed) and there are about 8 pictures (each JPEG 1024X768 1.4mb) and I want to etch/burn/save them PERMANENTLY on the SD with no chance of every erasing/deleting/reformating these pics. Is this somehow possible?

Can it be done that a program can aggressively write to the same location on the disk many many times that it makes it permanent or is there any other way?
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby 12amps » Mon 08 May 2006, 13:48:33

thanks specoops
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby rushdy » Mon 08 May 2006, 16:35:01

You should be aware 12amps if you do manage to write the data to the card permanently that it won't remain readable permanently. Modern memory (and to a certain extend the systems themselves) are to small and fiddly (technical description) to trust reliably over a long period of time. If its longevity your after, keep copies all over the place on loads of different media - even paper! :P

A recent example would be how 6 high quality dvdrs burned slowly with a good drive managed to go from verified written to corrupt and unreadable in under 3 months, even though I kept them well. There went my backups :roll:
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby 12amps » Mon 08 May 2006, 17:46:43

Yes, after researching it some more I come to realization that what I want to do cannot be done. (maybe if the NSA is reading this they might help out a little??)

What I really want is the OPPOSITE of a digital file shredder program.
(not what you might think at first)

My goal was to 'etch' some pictures onto a flash SD card/chip permanently so that it will survive reformatting, purposeful deleting, changing, etc...

While shredders write data over and over again to erase it permenetalty with no hope of recover I thought there was a program that could write information (usable data) over and over so that it etches (like the ghost image of an old overused monitor without screensavers) so that the data is always there and can be retraced even after a bit-by-bit reformat etc.

Looks like that is beyond my current capabilities.
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby 12amps » Mon 08 May 2006, 17:51:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rushdy', 'Y')ou should be aware 12amps if you do manage to write the data to the card permanently that it won't remain readable permanently. Modern memory (and to a certain extend the systems themselves) are to small and fiddly (technical description) to trust reliably over a long period of time. If its longevity your after, keep copies all over the place on loads of different media - even paper! :P

A recent example would be how 6 high quality dvdrs burned slowly with a good drive managed to go from verified written to corrupt and unreadable in under 3 months, even though I kept them well. There went my backups :roll:


rushdy you are right of course. Digital media will never survive as long as paper. Paper records have survived over 5000+ years, I doubt 5 1/2 in floppies will survive till 6985. And with Peak Oil coming, I doubt seriously ANY digital media will survive for more than 500 years.

There is a site at http://longnow.org/ that talks about planning for the future and they want to make a clock that last 10,000 years.
Too bad they don't take PO seriously, I went over and told them about the problem and they acted like I was nuts....

The longnow is going to be the longdead in a couple of years...


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But the reason I wanted to do that is becuase I have a few pictures that I wnat to annoy a friend with. I have HIS sd card and want to etch those pictures so for as long as he uses that card on that camera he will always see those pictures...
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Re: tech question for the computer literitc

Unread postby rushdy » Mon 08 May 2006, 18:14:44

Hahaha allrighty :)
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