starring McNamara from ww2 and Vietnam fame. He went over the decisions to firebomb cities in Japan during ww2. He burned assisted to some extent in the decision to burn Tokyo to the ground. It was incredible sight to see the city in ruins and people walking around with nowhere to go and nothing to do. It was the slaughter of a hundred thousand innocent human beings.
After watching that movie, it was totally apparent to me that the United States government has very little trouble with allowing the decision to murder people by the unrestrained use of violence.
It was extremely disturbing to see that the US authorized the use of nuclear weapons on the civilian populations of Hiroshima and Nagasaki after it had destroyed a grand total of 70+ cities.
I'm thinking that this does not bode well for the future of the world when the peak becomes apparent for all of us. What will the US government reaction be to the end of our way of life here? Will the USG decide to take some kind of violent action on a scale unprecedented? Keep in mind that the US has already used nuclear weapons against innocent civilian populations.
I have abandoned the idea of stocking up on weapons. I have a few items in reserve, but I don't have any intention of becoming a roving marauder. I hope that violence will never visit me.
I think a better course of action would be to acquire a valuable skill that will be in demand no matter what happens to the community. A skill so useful that the community would defend me in the event that some catastrophic happened. I would be a valuable asset to the community.
I also think that we don't have very much time to prepare. Our monetary system is facing a crisis, our transportation infrastructure is built on a declining set of resources, and the value of intellectual capability is being destroyed by globalization. Therefore, it would have to be a skill that cannot be outsourced or pushed aside in favor of an alternative.
This line of reasoning has led me to the conclusion that I should pursue a career in nursing. I'd go the MD route, but I have serious doubts that I would have time to finish my studies in time to be an asset to any community. It's a ten year time investment, and I simply don't think I have ten years to go before I'm going to have to be out there in the world earning my daily bread. Nursing can be a two-year commitment.
Nursing school, here I come.
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by Ayoob » Sat 30 Oct 2004, 21:09:19
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by Itch » Sat 30 Oct 2004, 23:58:32
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')After watching that movie, it was totally apparent to me that the United States government has very little trouble with allowing the decision to murder people by the unrestrained use of violence.
')After watching that movie, it was totally apparent to me that the United States government has very little trouble with allowing the decision to murder people by the unrestrained use of violence.
I'm surprised that you're surprised about this. Historically, many US governments have proven that they are willing to kill maybe a few million people to get what they want. The Indians seem to be an example of this, and while assimilating them was certainly attempted, it was easier and cheaper to drive them off their land and kill them. I don't know what the true explanation was for blowing up cities with little tactical value. Business reasons may be a part of why such decisions were made; but knowing that such attacks took place seems to weaken the "we love human rights" argument, though I won't deny that different administrations have saved lives.
Still, if there is some benefit to killing hordes of people, and you happen to be a part of that particular group, then it might not be an outrageous statement to say that you're already dead.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have abandoned the idea of stocking up on weapons. I have a few items in reserve, but I don't have any intention of becoming a roving marauder. I hope that violence will never visit me.
I think a better course of action would be to acquire a valuable skill that will be in demand no matter what happens to the community. A skill so useful that the community would defend me in the event that some catastrophic happened. I would be a valuable asset to the community.
Defense could have been one of those skills that you intend to practice. Any dick shark with a few dollars can go and buy a gun, but it takes time and dedication to learn how to use a complex tool in a relatively masterful way. Knowing that there is always a high demand for people who are skilled in the art of killing other people, people who not only know how to use guns well, but can also kill random people without any reservations, will find other opportunities besides being a marauder. I'll joke about how great it is to pop off a few thousand rounds at the local shooting range/school yard, but I truly wouldn't want to be involved in this particular area.
I'd also humbly suggest that you try and learn more than one valuable skill. Personally, I intend to read as much as I can about medical procedures, navigation, and building. I might not be having the same kind of training as those who are going to school for these skills, because I spend my free time studying shit like this; but having any knowledge about things like that would be better than no knowledge at all.
I think there will always be a demand for nurses, which can be both good and bad. I don't want to take a shit on your idea, but if you do end up completing nursing school, I personally think that you'll find yourself in government hands instead of a supposedly independent community. Those who control this country have said that total war is the plan, so you can bet that there will be the need for people like you.
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by Ayoob » Sun 31 Oct 2004, 11:57:56
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')After watching that movie, it was totally apparent to me that the United States government has very little trouble with allowing the decision to murder people by the unrestrained use of violence.
')After watching that movie, it was totally apparent to me that the United States government has very little trouble with allowing the decision to murder people by the unrestrained use of violence.
I'm surprised that you're surprised about this. Historically, many US governments have proven that they are willing to kill maybe a few million people to get what they want. The Indians seem to be an example of this, and while assimilating them was certainly attempted, it was easier and cheaper to drive them off their land and kill them.
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')I just don't want to believe that my people are murderous savages who have no conception of right and wrong. The father of one of my friends was a Vietnam vet until last week, when he died of cancer directly linked to the use of Agent Orange. His use of Agent Orange. By definition, he's a mass murderer. In the service of his country, and officially sanctioned by the government.
There are quite a few soldiers in our military, and I wonder if they'd turn their weapons on us if we have anything valuable that the military wants.
We're the savages now, you know. I just don't really want to think about it. It's so... terrible.
I think there will always be a demand for nurses, which can be both good and bad. I don't want to take a shit on your idea, but if you do end up completing nursing school, I personally think that you'll find yourself in government hands instead of a supposedly independent community. Those who control this country have said that total war is the plan, so you can bet that there will be the need for people like you.
Well, we'll see. If I'm called up for war, I won't go. I'll go somewhere else. I just don't want to do it. I'm sure I can find some peaceful place to go and practice medicine.
My fellow countrymen, though, will go to foreign lands and kill people so lawyers can keep driving their hummers and so that people in extremely cold climates can continue to heat their homes with cheap oil.
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