[Aaron]

Today is national "A Day without an Immigrant" day.

This is a nationwide event calling for all immigrants to attend protest marches today, instead of going to work/school/etc...

The idea is to "show America" what impact immigrants have on our nation. I suppose so we understand what would happen if we sent 'em all packin'.

Fine... that's fair enough.

But if this is indeed a valid idea, then isn't the opposite idea just as valid?

What if Americans decided to host a "If you don't like America, get the hell out day"?

I mean if it's valid for our immigrant population to point out what they do for us, then it's valid for us to point out what we do for them right?

Perhaps in the end, it's pointless to even have these discussions, since millions cross the US borders ever year with no oversight whatsoever.

A condition that has flipped my own status in my home state, from majority to minority within 2 decades.

Since all of these immigrants are a single generation from citizenship, it seems clear that within a very short period of time, America's immigrants will constitute a voting majority, and will simply legislate the changes they desire into being.

No protests required.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '
')Since all of these immigrants are a single generation from citizenship, it seems clear that within a very short period of time, America's immigrants will constitute a voting majority, and will simply legislate the changes they desire into being.

[gnm]

Can we clarify here? Are we talking about "immigrants" or "ILLEGAL immigrants"?
I'm sick of that being used interchangeably...

-G

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat if Americans decided to host a "If you don't like America, get the hell out day"?

I mean if it's valid for our immigrant population to point out what they do for us, then it's valid for us to point out what we do for them right?

[gnm]

We don't need illegals. They obviously care nothing for our laws if they are here illegally anyways. And the only one who benefits from hiring illegal immigrants is the cheap bastard employers who are breaking the law for profit. Make them legal, pay them minimum wage or better and let them pay taxes. If prices have to go up then so be it. If you don't like the immigration laws then work to change those. I've got no problem with people who want to come here and work legally.

-G

[seahorse2]

This "day without an immigrant" is a big risk for the immigrants in my opinion. If it flops, businesses will see they don't need them. So, unless there are serious repercussions, they shoot themselves and their argument in the preverbial foot. Kind of like the million man march flop.

[PrairieMule]

I'm in the Texas just like Aaron. Honestly I can't imagine Texas w/o the hispanic influence. I wouldn't want to live w/o them. I do believe we citizens have legitimate right to have some control in separating the good ones from the bad ones. You know simple yardsticks like violent criminals, welfare sponges, and folks who refuse to carry insurance on their trucks that speed up on red lights and such.


BTW-Pay Day for some folks who work off the books is today. I wonder if their outrage will extend to boycotting check cashing outlets

ponga su dinero donde está su boca !

[Ingenuity_Gap]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'I')'m in the Texas just like Aaron. Honestly I can't imagine Texas w/o the hispanic influence. I wouldn't want to live w/o them. I do believe we citizens have legitimate right to have some control in separating the good ones from the bad ones. You know simple yardsticks like violent criminals, welfare sponges, and folks who refuse to carry insurance on their trucks that speed up on red lights and such.


BTW-Paypay for some folks who work off the books is today. I wonder if their outrage will extend to boycotting check cashing

ponga su dinero donde está su boca !

[Cerberus]

How about forever without illegal immigrants! Why limit it to one day?

[holmes]

Mekrob, who is this "we" you slap around here. I sure dont need one single illegal picking my food or building shit structures that I never want or desire. This whole shit storm is built from globalization, greedy asshole farmers, lazy elite latte sipping burb/urban pukes, corps, gub, multiculturalists, etc.. Not from me or anyone that I associate with.
I dont need any of them. Ill gladly pick my own(which I do) and/or pay more. I dont have 4 plus seeds living in a loaned out mcmansion, commuting 30+ a day and need slave labor to supply me with my massive loads of cheap resources.
And Aaron MORE pretty pictures and multicultural studies in them schools! Yay! What a future! They will wake up soon enough and thier whole tax base will be gone anyway. It will be just like from where they came. Then they will scream and migrate to the next region. Stupid low IQ's cannot understand the big picture and only think with their mouths and genitalia. Simple primitive urges of lust. Shes a done deal now. The fuck ups have control. They will never create a tax base. Look at all 3rd world countries. they be blaming soon enough. The gestapo will be on the tax base. Already are. shits a brewin!

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') think someone has purposely blurred the line between immigrants and illegal immigrants in the debate. We have immigration policies for a reason. I am surprised that illegal immigrants would try to march, it makes no sense. Aguest worker program would ensure many current illegals an ID, a better wage, and a track on which to eventually have citizenship. What we ask in exchange is that our country be 'granted' its own right to know who the hell is in the country and why.

This is going to be a big issue going forward. Also what dumber way to bring attentio t yourself than by advocating something that could hurt the economy. Obviously the illegals ar emaking an econmic impact or we would not tolerate them here in the first place, that's how much of America is the Almighty dollar is king here. Noone would take the risk of hiring illegals if there were not money to be made.

I find the whole issue really wierd beause they are essentially saying, "We are proud to be your scab labor, please use us some more." It sound like a self esteem issue. And if I were president I would be on it with Vincente to get something shandled over there too. But then comes that oil issue, don;t we get alot of our oil from Mexico. But with Canterell in decline, the Mexican leverage may be fading fast.

[PrairieMule]

Looks like the fallout of today will be mild..

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/w ... fbd76.html

[threadbear]

I was an immigrant and I endured America. I never loved it. Some of the people are fantastic, though. Many immigrants would prefer to move to a civilized country, given the choice. Americans will never learn what a pathetic sack of sh** their country is becoming, as they are blinded by generations of brainwashing and rarely talk to recent immigrants. If they do talk to their maid, gardener, it would never dawn on them that the "help" is giving them the answer they think they want. Margaret Mead had similar problems with 'quaint brown people' in Samoa.

[PrairieMule]

Threadbear-

Where did you immigrate from?

[lotrfan55345]

Wow, I didn't even know.
Well, my parents probably didn't know either. They normally went about their 9-5 workday.

[Aaron]

Interesting replies,

I didn't say so in my initial post, that I too can't imagine Texas without Mexico.

I have had many Hispanic friends through the years, and have visited Mexico many times.

It's not really about Mexico IMO.

It's about our nations ability to guide it's future.

I have no problem with legal immigrants and visa workers/students, but the porous nature of our borders is going to make our own intentions irrelevant in time.

Already the legal children of illegal immigrants wield enormous power in state politics & business. Given the rapid growth of the Hispanic population nationwide, (but especially in the southwest), it looks inevitable that these new Americans will become the majority influence and our laws and culture will reflect this demographic change.

I have not actually made a judgment as to if this would be good or bad... because I'm honestly not sure.

I can imagine scenarios both ways.

But unless something changes, I do feel certain that we are going to find out... one way or the other.

[holmes]

Good? Interesting. Good how? Not for the land. Not for the citizens unless your a globalist capitalists/commie. I dont see any good. remember overshoot? anyone?
http://www.desertinvasion.us/