$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'J')ust goes to show the level of ignorance in the USA of the true nature of the problem. Anything the tax would be used for would just be a diversion of wealth and energy into dead end fixes. Such additional taxes would make it more difficult for those working on thier own lifeboat to accomplish their goals before the big dieoff gets in full swing.
I guess those of you who do not see yourselves as capable of successfully living your own lives need your little delusions about big daddy government taking care of you, in spite of a long history of the failure of collectivism, so the poll results do not really surprise me.
Actually, I take such thinking as expressed in this poll as a good sign that the majority will sit and wait for a rescue that will never come, hence those who are independently preparing will have a huge survival advantage when nature openly and violently commences her selection process.
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Re: Americans are cautiously open to gas tax rise, poll show
by nero » Mon 06 Mar 2006, 12:24:22
It takes all sorts. Some people feel that the best way to survive is to build lifeboats, some people believe the best way to survive is to start bailing. If everyone stopped what they were doing to build lifeboats civilization would sink almost immediately. If no one builds lifeboats then no one would be prepared if the worst comes to the worst.
But your smugness is insufferable, unless you built the computer monitor you are reading from yourself you are benefiting from other people's decisions not to go off and build their own lifeboat so have a little symapthy.
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Re: Americans are cautiously open to gas tax rise, poll show
by emersonbiggins » Mon 06 Mar 2006, 13:09:01
From the poll:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')wenty-four percent of those polled said they would support a higher federal gasoline tax if the new revenue was used to help fight terrorism
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')wenty-four percent of those polled said they would support a higher federal gasoline tax if the new revenue was used to help fight terrorism
Read: I'll take a tax increase if it helps pay for the petrodollar war deficits we've racked up.
Interesting...
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Re: Americans are cautiously open to gas tax rise, poll show
by dub_scratch » Mon 06 Mar 2006, 14:22:19
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'J')ust goes to show the level of ignorance in the USA of the true nature of the problem. Anything the tax would be used for would just be a diversion of wealth and energy into dead end fixes. Such additional taxes would make it more difficult for those working on thier own lifeboat to accomplish their goals before the big dieoff gets in full swing.
I guess those of you who do not see yourselves as capable of successfully living your own lives need your little delusions about big daddy government taking care of you, in spite of a long history of the failure of collectivism, so the poll results do not really surprise me.
Actually, I take such thinking as expressed in this poll as a good sign that the majority will sit and wait for a rescue that will never come, hence those who are independently preparing will have a huge survival advantage when nature openly and violently commences her selection process.
I guess those of you who do not see yourselves as capable of successfully living your own lives need your little delusions about big daddy government taking care of you, in spite of a long history of the failure of collectivism, so the poll results do not really surprise me.
Actually, I take such thinking as expressed in this poll as a good sign that the majority will sit and wait for a rescue that will never come, hence those who are independently preparing will have a huge survival advantage when nature openly and violently commences her selection process.
You seam to have combined hyper-individualistic attitude that is common in most Americans, with a sort of hopeless doom outlook. I guess you are currently working on you survival boat-hole? If so then good luck to ya.
But I say why bother? If everything gets so bad where the only refuge is some type of extreme survivalism, then the prospects for anyone's "lifeboat" does not seem particularly promising either. The mere idea of great civilization collapse implies that any hope for survival within the individualist mode will require retreating from civilization into extreme isolation as far as possible (think of Ted Kaczynski's hermit shack without the ability to drive into town from time to time to stock up on supplies). Yet even the most well prepared survival retreat is even more vulnerable to failure if the rest of civilization around it collapses. Imagine if ones solar power inverter goes down, then what?
I agree with you about how it is foolish to count on the government to bail civilization out. But the extreme opposite of that in the hyper-individualist survival mode is perhaps even more bleak. The real answer probably lies somewhere in between.
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Re: Americans are cautiously open to gas tax rise, poll show
by Graeme » Wed 08 Mar 2006, 04:29:09
M. King Hubbert's Lower 48 Prediction Revisited
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e are deeply concerned that the world is probably facing an imminent and catastrophic collapse in net oil export capacity because of declining production and increasing domestic consumption in the top exporting countries. Figure 4 predicts that the combined oil production by the current top four net exporters will be reduced by 50% by the year 2028, which would probably equate to a reduction in net oil exports of at least 75% over the next two decades.
We recommend that the United States abolish the payroll tax (Social Security + Medicare tax) and replace it with either a liquid transportation (petroleum) fuel tax or an overall (nonrenewable) energy tax.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e are deeply concerned that the world is probably facing an imminent and catastrophic collapse in net oil export capacity because of declining production and increasing domestic consumption in the top exporting countries. Figure 4 predicts that the combined oil production by the current top four net exporters will be reduced by 50% by the year 2028, which would probably equate to a reduction in net oil exports of at least 75% over the next two decades.
We recommend that the United States abolish the payroll tax (Social Security + Medicare tax) and replace it with either a liquid transportation (petroleum) fuel tax or an overall (nonrenewable) energy tax.
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