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Re: hello

Postby canis_lupus » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 15:37:39

Hey, Joe -

Glad you could make it.

You're going to find all you need (and more) on these boards.

Welcome!
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Re: hello

Postby RonMN » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 16:21:32

Welcome Joe,

Glad to have ya onboard! :)
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Re: hello

Postby musselj » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 16:28:49

Hello Joe,

Really small world!! I am in macomb as well welcome aboard just think about this though we live next to one of the biggest supplies of fresh water around not to mention if you head north and know how to hunt you wont go hungry! I dont think it will be all that bad around here besides the fact of no more work!! it is just going to suck sinking into poverty!
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Re: hello

Postby JoeCoal » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 16:42:32

Welcome!

Saving energy is a great first step. Don't forget to think about local food production:

Square Foot Gardening

I'm having great success with this method so far.

Also go to your local coin shop and pick up some old (pre 1965) silver dimes and quarters as fast as you can...

Silver Price

I used to be a Doomer; now I'm looking forward to the end of the Rat Race... :)
Good night, and good luck...
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Re: hello

Postby roadwarrior » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 17:38:35

Thank you for the warm welcome. I'm not really a gloomer. I'm a realist. For as long as I can remember, I've always been interested in oil and gas. I should have been a geologist, instead of a Millwright. I think I missed my calling. I've been studying production charts on US oil production. Since 1970, US oil production has been steadily falling. Hubbert was right! He may be right about world oil production. If he is, the US will be in for a real shocker worse that 1973 on 1980 oil shocks.

I hope he is wrong.
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Re: hello

Postby RonMN » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 19:41:31

Yup...we all hope he's wrong. But being realists...we can't deny the logic.
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*deep breath* Hello...?

Postby nemo » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 19:58:50

First post. Got here via the oil drum.
I'm 28, male, awfully ignorant and trying learn. I guess I've been aware of the unsustainability of the current course of humanity for quite some time, but the concept of PO is relatively new to me. Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one. If the fabric of society is about to come apart, preparedness is crucial.
Apart from learning, I'm looking for a sense of community. Having tried preaching a gloomy energy outlook to my surroundings, I mostly find the response to be patronizing unrealistic optimism and ignoreance even greater than my own (and what's worse, willful ignoreance at that).
Fundamentally I'm a utopian optimist, but my hopes for humanity requires a timespan that greatly exceeds how long I expect to live. I think a dark age is coming, and that right soon. I hope it will be short, and followed by an era of forward-looking and reason.
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby Jack » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 20:11:05

Welcome to Peak Oil, Nemo.

I think you'll find a robust, interesting community - and some worthwhile discussions.

Enjoy your stay!

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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby rogerhb » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 20:12:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', 'F')undamentally I'm a utopian optimist


Welcome aboard.

Don't worry, we can cure you of that. :)
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby nemo » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 20:34:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', 'F')undamentally I'm a utopian optimist


Welcome aboard.

Don't worry, we can cure you of that. :)

Sure hope not 8O
The way I see it, there are two things that really need be feared. Either a venusian runaway greenhouse effect or a Great Big Rock from Space could do us all in. Barring that, Im certain at least some of us will pull through, and some is enough. Give us a few more millennia, and we might just learn right from wrong. We're still monkeys, but if you look at a long enough timeline, I'm sure you'll agree with me that we are actually improving? Sapiens is better than Erectus is better than slimy bacteria, IMHO.
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby LadyRuby » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 20:47:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', 'F')irst post. Got here via the oil drum.
I'm 28, male, awfully ignorant and trying learn. I guess I've been aware of the unsustainability of the current course of humanity for quite some time, but the concept of PO is relatively new to me. Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one. If the fabric of society is about to come apart, preparedness is crucial.
Apart from learning, I'm looking for a sense of community. Having tried preaching a gloomy energy outlook to my surroundings, I mostly find the response to be patronizing unrealistic optimism and ignoreance even greater than my own (and what's worse, willful ignoreance at that).
Fundamentally I'm a utopian optimist, but my hopes for humanity requires a timespan that greatly exceeds how long I expect to live. I think a dark age is coming, and that right soon. I hope it will be short, and followed by an era of forward-looking and reason.


Welcome! You sound like a realist, and an optimistic pessimist. Me too!
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby aldente » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 21:30:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', 'T')he way I see it, there are two things that really need be feared. Either a venusian runaway greenhouse effect or a Great Big Rock from Space could do us all in.

You sure did your reading before posting. How long did you read before you started to post? It took me about 9 months from first 'initial interest' to 'final impact'.
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby JoeCoal » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 21:36:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', '.')..Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one.


The fact that you are here proves that you are not as feeble minded as you think! Welcome!

Let us pity the fools who just bought a McMansion with a garage big enough to park their new Hummer -- now THAT'S feeble-minded... :lol:
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby hoplite » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 22:18:59

Make sure you re-fill your prozac/zanax/lithium meds because yer gonna need them to fit in with this crowd!
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby coyote » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 22:20:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', 'W')elcome! You sound like a realist, and an optimistic pessimist. Me too!

Me three, though I sometimes get overwhelmed by all the bad stuff.

Cynic: optimist by temperament, pessimist by policy...

Welcome Nemo!
Lord, here comes the flood
We'll say goodbye to flesh and blood
If again the seas are silent in any still alive
It'll be those who gave their island to survive...
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby nemo » Tue 18 Apr 2006, 22:44:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '
')You sure did your reading before posting. How long did you read before you started to post?

On this board, only a couple of days (nights, really). More lurking required, but realising the greatness and usability of this place I thought I might as well register. I've been reading about PO for a couple of months or so, but sustainability has been an interest since high school or even earlier.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeCoal', '
')Let us pity the fools who just bought a McMansion with a garage big enough to park their new Hummer

Lots of people excercise their right to make bad decisions, and perhaps some measure of pity is in order. My old man just decided it's a good time to buy a frickin' powerboat. Sure, it's a small one and he can afford to frivolously burn through a couple of tanks every summer even if fuel prices would quadruple tomorrow, but I still think it's a bad idea and I told him so, but without getting hysterical about it. I'm more of a sailing kind of guy myself...
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby Aedo » Wed 19 Apr 2006, 01:19:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nemo', 'I')'m more of a sailing kind of guy myself...


<--- Its the way forward!!!


Welcome onboard!
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby Zardoz » Wed 19 Apr 2006, 20:52:53

Welcome, nemo. Don't let us get you down. At times we'll test your optimism. For example:


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aedo', '&')lt;--- Its the way forward!!!


Of course. However, guess what the feedstock is for that fiberglass hull and those high-tech fabric sails?
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby nemo » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 14:43:38

I take it that left arrow thingy should be read as "back". Or "left"? Neither of those sentiments get me down, as I agree with both of them to a certain extent.
Edit: Ah, now I see! It's a point-at-the-avatar arrow! *slaps forehead*
I'm all for discussing the past-PO future of sailing and boatbuilding at length, but I think it belongs in a dedicated thread someplace other than "welcome"?
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Re: *deep breath* Hello...?

Postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 15:14:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ake sure you re-fill your prozac/zanax/lithium meds because yer gonna need them to fit in with this crowd!


I knew I frgot to do soemtthing....
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