What is there to fear, when God is in control? I've learned quickly that all things in this world, must come to pass. Just think about these verses.
Even though we are all guilty of sin against God. Just think about how many of the Ten Commandments you have broken.
"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23)
And our breaking His Law (sinning) will keep us from entering Heaven because of our unrighteousness. Worse off, because we're guilty of breaking His Law, we will end up in Hell.
"Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God?" (1 Corinthians 6:9)
Even though we disobey Him and have broken His Laws, God loves us so much that He grants eternal life for those who repent of thier sins and trust in Jesus Christ, who spent six hours dying in our place on a cross to save us sinners.
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
He is trustworthy for those who put their trust in Him.
"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." (Proverbs 30:5)
Jesus will never leave or forsake His followers, even unto the end of the world.
"I am with you always, even unto the end of the world." (Matthew 28:20)
Why live in fear? The worst thing that can happen to someone is death! Since repentence and trust in Jesus Christ brings eternal life, there is nothing left to fear!
Something to think about.
God Bless,
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Why be afraid?
by EndDays » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:27:19
Have you ever thought about God and eternity? What will you say when you stand before our Creator after you die?
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Re: Why be afraid?
by gego » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:42:55
Just what we need, a believer.
When faith instead of proof is the means of perceiving reality, it is just as undefensable to hypothesize that invisible butterflys created the universe and constantly monitor human behavior, as it is to come up with the god theory.
I have heard many times that the big bang is just a theory, but what the religious believers do not recognize it that god is juat a theory also. The difference is that the god theory has zero evidence while the big bang theory has a logical basis in observation and experiment. Yes, it is possible that the big bang theory will prove to be flawed, but what will replace it will be new discoveries so any new knowledge will be based on science and not hocus pocus, and the chance of this creation of the human mind, god, in the image of man, will be the replacement of the big bang theory is zero.
The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
When faith instead of proof is the means of perceiving reality, it is just as undefensable to hypothesize that invisible butterflys created the universe and constantly monitor human behavior, as it is to come up with the god theory.
I have heard many times that the big bang is just a theory, but what the religious believers do not recognize it that god is juat a theory also. The difference is that the god theory has zero evidence while the big bang theory has a logical basis in observation and experiment. Yes, it is possible that the big bang theory will prove to be flawed, but what will replace it will be new discoveries so any new knowledge will be based on science and not hocus pocus, and the chance of this creation of the human mind, god, in the image of man, will be the replacement of the big bang theory is zero.
The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
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Re: Why be afraid?
by Aimrehtopyh » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:43:19
That's fine ED, but even if my soul is saved Peak Oil might ravage my body with starvation, violence, disease, frostbite, hypothermia, parasites, sores, boils, thirst... hey wait a minute, this is starting to sound biblical.
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Re: Why be afraid?
by EndDays » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:54:20
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'J')ust what we need, a believer.
When faith instead of proof is the means of perceiving reality, it is just as undefensable to hypothesize that invisible butterflys created the universe and constantly monitor human behavior, as it is to come up with the god theory.
I have heard many times that the big bang is just a theory, but what the religious believers do not recognize it that god is juat a theory also. The difference is that the god theory has zero evidence while the big bang theory has a logical basis in observation and experiment. Yes, it is possible that the big bang theory will prove to be flawed, but what will replace it will be new discoveries so any new knowledge will be based on science and not hocus pocus, and the chance of this creation of the human mind, god, in the image of man, will be the replacement of the big bang theory is zero.
The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
When faith instead of proof is the means of perceiving reality, it is just as undefensable to hypothesize that invisible butterflys created the universe and constantly monitor human behavior, as it is to come up with the god theory.
I have heard many times that the big bang is just a theory, but what the religious believers do not recognize it that god is juat a theory also. The difference is that the god theory has zero evidence while the big bang theory has a logical basis in observation and experiment. Yes, it is possible that the big bang theory will prove to be flawed, but what will replace it will be new discoveries so any new knowledge will be based on science and not hocus pocus, and the chance of this creation of the human mind, god, in the image of man, will be the replacement of the big bang theory is zero.
The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
What requires more Faith?
Walk to your window and look at the nearest building and say it was not built.
Or..
Walk to a mirror and look at yourself, who is trillions of times more complex and intricate than any building, and then say to yourself you were not created.
God was right about those who deny Him.
“The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1).
Come on, be honest. Do you really believe God doesn't exist, or are you just trying to avoid accountabilty for your sins?
You should really think about this, because eternity is a long time and He's warned us many times.
ED
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Re: Why be afraid?
by EarthAbides » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 22:07:52
Ed. So... your reasoning is that a building exists, and it was built by man. Man, being trillions of times more complex than a building, therefore was built by a higher intelligence. My question to you then, is who built god, himself obviously a trillion times more complex than all of observable nature?
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Re: Why be afraid?
by gego » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 22:18:34
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What requires more Faith?
Walk to your window and look at the nearest building and say it was not built.
Or..
Walk to a mirror and look at yourself, who is trillions of times more complex and intricate than any building, and then say to yourself you were not created.
God was right about those who deny Him.
“The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1).
Come on, be honest. Do you really believe God doesn't exist, or are you just trying to avoid accountabilty for your sins?
You should really think about this, because eternity is a long time and He's warned us many times.
ED
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What requires more Faith?
Walk to your window and look at the nearest building and say it was not built.
Or..
Walk to a mirror and look at yourself, who is trillions of times more complex and intricate than any building, and then say to yourself you were not created.
God was right about those who deny Him.
“The fool says in his heart, ‘There is no God.’” (Psalm 14:1).
Come on, be honest. Do you really believe God doesn't exist, or are you just trying to avoid accountabilty for your sins?
You should really think about this, because eternity is a long time and He's warned us many times.
ED
I knew before you posted this that you would say that the proof that god exists is because we are here. This is what lots of you believers have to say.
Apparently you never heard of "begging the question" in logic. When you beg the question, you use the question to answer the question. You say that god exists and the proof is that we are here. You fail to recognize the illogic of that. The question is how did we get here. Anyone could give a thousand explanations and then say the proof of their hyphotesis is that we are here. We were created by tiny worms that inhabit the vacuum of space and the proof is that we are here; clearly they exist, otherwise we would not be here. Substitute god for the tiny worms and that is you argument.
You have your belief system, and at least you should be honest and say that it is not based on logic, buy you choose to believe it anyway. Also recognize that you are living outside of sanity, you are happy doing so, and please stop using the force of government to impose your lack of sanity on the general population.
As for sin, I have my morals based on reason, and frankly, I think much of what you consider sin, I consider fun.
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Re: Why be afraid?
by charlesfinney_99 » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 22:21:42
USA/World break GOD's laws-Iran/Peak Oil as punishment
God's law-Ten commandments-are the condition of salvation/damnation and blessings/cursings
Jesus Christ can forgive your sin ONLY IF you repent your sin and RE=KEEP ten commandments.
MOST of today christians wont be saved since they think they repented but they really havent;they broke GOD's laws and still breaking them!
Look at USA's sin;sunday working/shopping, divorce,lust, stealing, sex outside marriage, greed,cursing,drinking/smoking.
Actually,CHRISTIANS in USA are the ones who broke GOD's law the most and they are doing this under the name of "salvation by grace,not by law," and "Jesus paid our sins"
So there are MORE divorces amongst Christians, more greed and drinking amonst church=goers, more sunday working/shopping by christians because for them, laws were abolished, and Jesus paid for their sins WITHOUT they re-keeping broken commadments.
If you want to repent and be saved, make sure you keep ten commandments and make it right and make restitutions.
Things are turning from bad to worse because christians are sinning more and breaking ten commandments more
Peak Oil/Iran are the just the beginning of GOD's punishment
God's law-Ten commandments-are the condition of salvation/damnation and blessings/cursings
Jesus Christ can forgive your sin ONLY IF you repent your sin and RE=KEEP ten commandments.
MOST of today christians wont be saved since they think they repented but they really havent;they broke GOD's laws and still breaking them!
Look at USA's sin;sunday working/shopping, divorce,lust, stealing, sex outside marriage, greed,cursing,drinking/smoking.
Actually,CHRISTIANS in USA are the ones who broke GOD's law the most and they are doing this under the name of "salvation by grace,not by law," and "Jesus paid our sins"
So there are MORE divorces amongst Christians, more greed and drinking amonst church=goers, more sunday working/shopping by christians because for them, laws were abolished, and Jesus paid for their sins WITHOUT they re-keeping broken commadments.
If you want to repent and be saved, make sure you keep ten commandments and make it right and make restitutions.
Things are turning from bad to worse because christians are sinning more and breaking ten commandments more
Peak Oil/Iran are the just the beginning of GOD's punishment
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Re: Why be afraid?
by EndDays » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 22:32:09
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EarthAbides', 'E')d. So... your reasoning is that a building exists, and it was built by man. Man, being trillions of times more complex than a building, therefore was built by a higher intelligence. My question to you then, is who built god, himself obviously a trillion times more complex than all of observable nature?
God is uncaused and uncreated - He simply exists.
How do we know this? Well, we know that from nothing, nothing comes. So if there was ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence then nothing would have ever come to exist. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been existing. That ever-existing thing is what we call God.
Besides, He's already answered that for you.
""But," said Moses to God, "when I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' if they ask me, 'What is his name?' what am I to tell them?" God replied, "I am who am." Then he added, "This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you."" (Exodus 3:13-14)
"I AM." - just think about that name.
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Re: Why be afraid?
by jsb1969 » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 22:57:29
The discussion regarding god has been around for quite sometime.
Is there a god? Is there no god? Belief in god can be a vehicle to
"spiritul" and "mystical" places, but the difference between "god"
and "no god" is not at all important. If you jump off a tall building,
neither one of them will save you. Get it?
Is there a god? Is there no god? Belief in god can be a vehicle to
"spiritul" and "mystical" places, but the difference between "god"
and "no god" is not at all important. If you jump off a tall building,
neither one of them will save you. Get it?
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Re: Why be afraid?
by gego » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 23:00:45
If I wanted to spend time in the insane asylum, I would go apply for a job there, but I am retired and enjoy not working for money.
You guys just go on with your discussion without me, the more quotes from the bible the better. One thing for sure is that you are immune to logic.
You guys just go on with your discussion without me, the more quotes from the bible the better. One thing for sure is that you are immune to logic.
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Re: Why be afraid?
by Lighthouse » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 23:15:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gego', 'J')ust what we need, a believer.
...The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
...The really sad thing, is that the rural idiot population who heavily believe in the god fantacy will more likely survive than the more scientific urban population. I just can't wait for the future witch hunts, post peak oil; what an ironic end to civilization.
Excuse me? Scientific urban population? That's a joke, isn't it?
I am going rural. (Buying 17 acres on the Sunshine Coast at the moment). I hold 3 degrees and my new neighbours are all well educated and open minded.
Or could it be that Australia is more secular than the sacred USA?
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