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Unread postby Rambo » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 12:58:15

I hate conspiracy theories and I hate half the wacky bull on this board.

I am a down to earth guy.

When I get enough facts on a matter that can be backed up I accept them as fact.

UFOs are not real ghosts are not real there is no God and there is no so called war on terror.

Peak oil is real what effect will it have? Only time will tell.

I am a natural sceptic but I will admit I have been fooled by propaganda I though that Iraq had less weapons then the Neo Cons were saying.

I was shocked to find out they had none.

George walker Bush is a front man Dick Cheney is really running the show and he ordered the death of 3000 people on September 11th 2001.

The vast majority of the people of the United States are dumb ******* who are blindly sitting by while their nation slips deeper into a new Nazi police state.

I live in Europe what business is it of mine I hear some of you say? The United States may just start world war three that’s all our business.


Iraq in not U.S territory the United States is a legitimate target your tax dollars are paying for death and misery in the Middle East.

I do not support terrorism in any way shape or form.

However people in the United States should realise that the rest of the world has had enough.

John F Kennedy was killed for trying to make peace Bush and his Neo Cons need to be locked up for the sake of peace.
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Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 13:38:02

Who is there to rise up? And even if American were to rise up the shit is already on the plate! Some how I don't think "oops it was the Government" or "we are really really sorry for F***in the planet" would cut it with the rest of the world.
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Unread postby LX1 » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 13:52:58

world wars are fun.
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Unread postby LX1 » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 14:01:59

i wish i was 'cultured' like you europeans.....lol!
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Unread postby Rambo » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 14:03:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LX1', 'i') wish i was 'cultured' like you europeans.....lol!


Like the Germans for example.
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Unread postby LX1 » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 14:10:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LX1', 'i') wish i was 'cultured' like you europeans.....lol!


Like the Germans for example.
all you europeans are enlightened sophisticates.
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Unread postby EndDays » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 15:14:43

Can't say I agree with you. God is very real and He loves you.

He also offers you eternal life and forgiveness of sins through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Pick up the Bible and read it, you'll quickly see that what's happening right now has all been prophesized thousands of years ago.

What do we do? We sin against God and try to push Him away, then wonder why our world is falling apart.

I have no doubts that Peak Oil is very real, but we're at the mercy of the Corporations on this one.

Your soul however, is much more fortunate and valuable, and don't forget you have a way to God through Jesus Christ.

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Unread postby Ludi » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 16:06:28

Where's this objective proof of the non-existence of God?
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Unread postby bobcousins » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 16:28:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', 'I') hate conspiracy theories and I hate half the wacky bull on this board.
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George walker Bush is a front man Dick Cheney is really running the show and he ordered the death of 3000 people on September 11th 2001.


Oops. :roll:
It's all downhill from here
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Unread postby Eddie_lomax » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 18:29:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', '
')George walker Bush is a front man Dick Cheney is really running the show and he ordered the death of 3000 people on September 11th 2001.

The vast majority of the people of the United States are dumb ******* who are blindly sitting by while their nation slips deeper into a new Nazi police state.


I have heard the conspiracy theories about 9/11, that Bush and co used the event to further their aims is unquestionable. But saying that they planned and executed it is quite unbelievable, just imagine if George did commision it, and now imagine that this fact got out.

Now how many people in goverment would be executed plain and simple ?

What would be left of goverment ?

Why would these people want to get into goverment and massacre their own people ?

With so many people who would need to know - wouldn't the risk be too high ?

The risks of it going wrong clearly totally outweigh the supposed benefits, they invaded Iraq with some help of 9/11 but something was going to happen anyway - there could be simpler incidents to justify invading, how about pretending that the Kurds were being gassed, much easier and cleaner to implement then a multiple target terrorist attack on your own people ?

And if they did have the ability to cover up things so well then why not make some weapons of mass distruction magically appear in Iraq ? (Maybe I'm a cynic, but I actually did expect something to appear out there, it was a refreshing surprise to see there is some honestly still in goverment!).

And as the second comment about the vast majority of Americans sitting around while their country becomes a dictatorship - hey the UK is way further down the road.

We have compulsory ID cards, a whole raft of new "anti terror" legislation which includes restrictions to freedom of speech. We have a law that states "the truth is no defense", a goverment tinkering with the second house (house of lords), and some dodgy new powers that allow parliment far reaching law amending.

Its not that the voters are dumb, its just that they don't care, I'm just hoping that if these new powers are used for the wrong purposes the people will make them unworkable...
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Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 18:56:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')here's this objective proof of the non-existence of God?


Wouldn't you first have to define what a god is before you can disprove their existance.....

If you say that a god is shared concept in the minds of believers, then you can certainly say that they exist.....
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Unread postby EndDays » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:14:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')here's this objective proof of the non-existence of God?


Wouldn't you first have to define what a god is before you can disprove their existance.....

If you say that a god is shared concept in the minds of believers, then you can certainly say that they exist.....


Its almost laughable that people can possibly say that God doesn't exist.

Walk around any downtown and tell people that all the buildings they see were never constructed by anyone. I'm guessing people will tell you you're crazy.

Now go inside somewhere and look in a mirror. Ask yourself why you, which are trillions of times more intricate and complex than any building did not have a creator?

God is very real, the problem is people won't acknowledge Him because they would also have to acknowledge their sin. If you look real deep, that's the real issue behind denying God's existence.

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Unread postby Zardoz » Sat 15 Apr 2006, 21:49:05

How many versions of a Supreme Being are advanced by the thousands of religions that have arisen in human history? Which one is right? Are all the others wrong? Are they all right? Are they all wrong?
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Unread postby Kickinthegob » Sun 16 Apr 2006, 01:16:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'H')ow many versions of a Supreme Being are advanced by the thousands of religions that have arisen in human history? Which one is right? Are all the others wrong? Are they all right? Are they all wrong?

The right one is the one you believe in and all others are wrong. Maybe a theologian here can enlighten us but I don't think there is an exception to that rule.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'I')ts almost laughable that people can possibly say that God doesn't exist.

There is no god, stop using the belief in a supreme being as a crutch to get through life. The bible was a book written to help stabilize large groups of people and scare them into an obedience that civilized life required back in the day. Religion is outdated and has been replaced by the scientific method, however the science of manipulation relies heavily on religion.

A good example is President Bush. Although he states to believe in God and be a good Christian, he is also a criminal and a liar. He often uses rhetorical phrases such as "evil doers" and "axis of evil" which get people like EndDays onside with the "program", the main reason the USA is being viewed more and more as a fanatical religious police state by other countries around the world.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', 'I') was shocked to find out they had none.

They did have WMD and the US knew they did because they had the receipts. How quickly people forget that the US was supplying arms to Iraq for years, including nerve agents. Only when Iraq decided to roll into Kuwait did the US experience the "blowback".
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', 'J')ohn F Kennedy was killed for trying to make peace Bush and his Neo Cons need to be locked up for the sake of peace.

Kennedy rejected Operation Northwoods, Bush and Cheney are nothing like Kennedy. 9/11 was an Operation Northwoods.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eddie_lomax', 'I') have heard the conspiracy theories about 9/11, that Bush and co used the event to further their aims is unquestionable.
Hello Eddie, we have a motive here but of course "because they hate your freedoms" sounds so much more reasonable. Ironic you lost your freedoms anyway, how convenient. Time to wake up, get over the denial and face reality!
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Unread postby Raxozanne » Sun 16 Apr 2006, 02:22:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', '
')What do we do? We sin against God and try to push Him away, then wonder why our world is falling apart.
ED


Answers like these don't really help us. We could say that our world is falling apart because we are sinning against god but people in past civilisations sinned just as much against god or didn't even know god/jesus christ and were fine. Really our world is falling apart because we foolishly built a 6.5 billion person global civilisation on a non-renewable resource.
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Unread postby Kez » Sun 16 Apr 2006, 02:49:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rambo', 'G')eorge walker Bush is a front man Dick Cheney is really running the show and he ordered the death of 3000 people on September 11th 2001.


Why would Cheney do such a thing? He is a multi-millionaire. He likes to read books and sit around at his ranch in Wyoming with his family. Why on earth would he risk everything he had, his family, and a potential American revolution to start some war? There are a million other ways it could have been done if they wanted to start some war, and each of them a million times easier to accomplish and cover up.

The allegations against Cheney or the gov't or whoever are just too outlandish. Do you realize to accomplish that that they would have to fool, con, or pay off hundreds of people? And don't you think that one of them wouldn't be coming forward with rock-solid, concrete evidence by now? Not 'theories', but evidence of Cheney sending money to a hijacker's mom or something. Come on that is just nuts. He is life-long friends with many of the people in congress and the white house (the original targets apparently), yet he's gonna sit back and watch them die? For what? More money? He just gave away 6 million to charity last year. He doesn't even spend what he has.

They could of easily had one U.S. military truck drive into the Iraqi desert and fire a big scud missile at Kuwait. That alone would be enough to get people riled up to go to war. 2 guys in a truck and a missile.
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Unread postby TT » Sun 16 Apr 2006, 03:05:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'C')an't say I agree with you. God is very real and He loves you.




Great. Another thread hijacked by a religious fanatic who wants to push his theory of religion down other people's throats.

I don't answer the door to religious door knockers and I resent having your version of religion thrust upon me.

You're free to believe/practice what you will, but you're not free to inflict it on me.

Welcome to my ignore list.
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Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 16 Apr 2006, 05:44:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', 'I')ts almost laughable that people can possibly say that God doesn't exist.

...

Now go inside somewhere and look in a mirror. Ask yourself why you, which are trillions of times more intricate and complex than any building did not have a creator?


Which is the same level as logic as spawned "The Numbskulls", it's very complicated and I don't understand it all therefore there is this man who did it....

The Numbskulls

Obviously the "Age of Reason" never stood a chance against this kind of thinking.
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