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will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby LX1 » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:00:26

when the oil crisis starts?
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:03:31

yes, if you have the right system of something that works on gravity
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby jaws » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:07:30

Yes, but the water will be cold! Bwahahahaha!~
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby BrownDog » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:09:06

If you're serious, find out where the water you now use comes from.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby LX1 » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:27:48

maybe i can set up a system, to trap rain water in something, and attach it to a shower head then open a valve when i want to shower, and yes im serious, showering is really important to me.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby clover » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:38:14

I'd have a plan for drinking water before I started building showers.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby LX1 » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 20:59:18

this peak oil shit has me worrying.........i wonder if theres anyway to lead the same kind of lifestyle i do now...the food i want, water, shelter, energy...ya know.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby clover » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 21:05:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LX1', 't')his peak oil shit has me worrying.........i wonder if theres anyway to lead the same kind of lifestyle i do now...the food i want, water, shelter, energy...ya know.


Most likely not- don't kid yourself. On the other hand, don't give yourself an aneurysm either. It probably won't be the end of civilization (unless you live in LA).

As for showers, the camping ones- passive solar bags you hang in the sun-seem to be simple enough. They don't last 45 minutes though, so I'll definitely be changing my lifestyle :lol:
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Unread postby Petro » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 21:21:47

cant believe this thread has gone so far :oops:
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby aldente » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 22:12:45

Louis the 14th of France was known not to take any baths whatsoever. It's the royal cause. We're all about to become Kings and Queens!
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 22:39:16

I don't know why everyone thinks this is such a silly question. Hot showers are a luxury that require lots of potable water under pressure as well as lots of energy to make the water hot. I understand that water treatment and delivery is a rather energy intensive business.
Yes, you can use some sort of solar means to heat the water, but that assumes you have all that water to spare in the first place. Part of my peak oil contingency plan is to learn how to keep myself clean with a minimum amount of water that is not necessarily heated. Ever give yourself a thorough cold water spit bath?
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 22:45:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'L')ouis the 14th of France was known not to take any baths whatsoever. It's the royal cause. We're all about to become Kings and Queens!


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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby rogerhb » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 22:56:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'L')ouis the 14th of France was known not to take any baths whatsoever. It's the royal cause. We're all about to become Kings and Queens!


Elizabeth the first was claimed to have had 4 baths a year, that would have made her the cleanest person in the realm.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Monty Python', '[')b]Large Man with Dead Body: Who's that then?
The Dead Collector: I dunno, must be a king.
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The Dead Collector: He hasn't got shit all over him.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby strider3700 » Fri 07 Apr 2006, 23:15:56

no need to give up on showers if you get a decent amount of sunshine in your yard.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Wa ... eating.htm

The colder it is where you live the more expensive it becomes but hot showers are entirely possible.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby TT » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 02:03:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', 'Y')es, but the water will be cold! Bwahahahaha!~


My water's not cold and I only use wood for water heating. We don't have water connected to our property. We collect rain water in three tanks (altogether 26,000 gals. capacity) Some of this water is pumped up to a header (gravity pressure) tank by a windmill. Water is piped to the wet back on my wood burning cooker and stored in an insulated water tank on my roof.

Each night I light my wood burning cooker to cook our meal. We also have a small electric stove - but I don't use that very much. While the meal is cooking we manage to heat and store enough hot water to last the whole day. It helps if we both have our shower while the fire is still burning. The stove only uses about 3-4 small logs a night. It's great in winter but makes the kitchen quite uncomfortable in summer.

So yes - you can have hot running water without electricity or gas.

People laugh at us because we decided to keep our old fashioned stove, hot water system and windmill. They tell us that electricity/gas is so much better. We'd get better water pressure and have unlimited hot water etc. Perhaps they're right, but I love my wood cooker and wet back. Definately the way to go in a post peak world.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby anneliese-nyc » Wed 12 Apr 2006, 12:43:37

There is a solar shower kit in the camping departments of stores.It is a large plastic bag that warms up in the sun. There is a nozzle with a spray attachment .Should work fine. It is about $15.00 .

OR, you can move to Costa Rica where the Tabacon Volcano heats up the streams which they divert into pools where people can soak in varying pools of varying temperatures. So relaxing .
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 12 Apr 2006, 13:14:40

I have the same solar shower that Anneliese mentioned. Nobody ever thinks about hygeine as much as the do guns and such, so this is not a stupid question. May belong in the planning for future question, but not a stupid question. In fact anytime I have been in the woods for 7 days hygeine has been more critical than carring a gun or cellphone.

Don't try to hang a 47lb bag of water on your shower curtain or shower head find a better spot. I have hook in my garage drilled into a load bearing support beam and a sturdy 10 gal tupperware tub for the runoff should the water get cutoff in a Katrinia like emergency. I live 1/4 mi away from Lake Lewisville so availability is not a issue but it must be filtered since it's popular spot for dirty skiboats.
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby frankthetank » Wed 12 Apr 2006, 20:50:30

Metal garbage can painted black? Our hot water is heated by gas right now and i don't like that one bit! I'm really going to have to figure out how i plan on washing my nuggets in the winter without freezing?
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby anneliese-nyc » Wed 12 Apr 2006, 23:44:00

Would an alcohol bath do it ? At least it would keep bacteria count down .

Or.in the desert regions , didn't they " clean" themselves with oil when water was not available ?
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Re: will i be able to take showers?

Unread postby aldente » Thu 13 Apr 2006, 00:00:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('anneliese-nyc', 'W')ould an alcohol bath do it ? At least it would keep bacteria count down .
Or.in the desert regions , didn't they " clean" themselves with oil when water was not available ?


Never heard of an oil-rub in the desert, the inevitable attraction of sand on the skin just sounds too painful. In regards to bacteria, yes your 'count' might go up but isn't that nothing but a outdated mindset - bacteria is bad, antibiotic is good? I bet you that we all can live well without showers and as far as the alcohol is concerned it would be way too wasteful in my opinion to use it for rub-downs (this from an afficionado who likes to drink the substance).
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