$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eric_b', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wildwell', 'H')ere we go again, the cult of Peak oil..
First up, collectively we got here through cultural values, greed, selfishness, laziness, innovation, ambition, pride, vigour and all the other human qualities. If we decide we don’t like it, collectively change it. Kick out the governments in the next vote, boycott the companies you don’t like, give the companies you do like your business. Talk about bend over and take it.
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Relativity Dogma & Truth
Re: Relativity Dogma & Truth
by Wildwell » Thu 06 Apr 2006, 07:17:50
YaaaaAAAaaaawn.
Thanks for that underwhelming pep-talk.
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')I don’t like any of this inevitable, truth shite. We collectively set the co-ordinates, (...)
'Collectively' we have about as much control over our destiny as a
dandelion seed in the wind. That should be obvious, assuming you
could get your head out of your ass.
Individual people can be intelligent, but as a whole humanity is proving
to be dumber than a box of rocks.
It wasn't a prep talk. It was a criticism of the constant whinge that we're dammed if we do, dammed if we don't when the world is a product of our collective decision making. Yes, certain western societies promote instant gratification and rights without responsibility, peddle violence and skew every argument to suit. But it doesn't get away from the eternal truth the its people's (lack of) intelligent decision making that makes the world go round. That starts with making choices in one's own life not making every excuse or worrying about what other people might be doing. 'Oh if I don't drive a hummer then some Chinese fellow might drive one'. Stop tossing the coin for heads all the time! 'I'm so worried about Global warming, but if I stop flying it won't make any difference so I might as well'. Blah Blah, Victims, damned victims. People that make excuses really piss me off!
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Re: Relativity Dogma & Truth
by SinisterBlueCat » Thu 06 Apr 2006, 10:56:26
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '
')and where do you think those minerals come from? not from other dead things?
stardust, SBC, it's all stardust. The notion that the world is disgusting goes back a long way, at least to the gnostics of Roman times. They thought a demiurge created the world because God wouldn't do such a criminal thing.')and where do you think those minerals come from? not from other dead things?
everything is made from starstuff sweets, even us. if you take what carl sagan in 1980 said...
"we are the local embodiment of a cosmos grown to self-awareness. we have begun to contemplate our origins: starstuff pondering the stars.”
and combine it with what einstein said in 1929...
"energy is an essence of life that forms its existance, fades, restructures its form and then lives again. "
you see that nothing really dies, it just changes its shape and moves around...and so whether you eat something to get nourishment or you absorb it through roots, it is all really the same. its all good.
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