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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby Rob_0126 » Sun 26 Mar 2006, 21:33:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', 'W')hatte???
Are you collecting old coins for thir metal value????
In that case you would be better of ripping up old copper cable.
How many tons copper do you reckon you will be able to store?
Besides, in a recession copper will drop like a rock.

Furthermore copper, zink, nickel etc aren't considered precious metals, but base metals.

If you want my opinion, go for silver. Not much silver in the ground and most of the stuff dug up has been used. Gold also looks good but more as a currency, not so much for its useful applications.
If it is coins you want, stock up gold eagles.


Are you accusing this poor poster of being metally retarded? :lol:

I can just read the headlines in the future.

Gold crashes! Silver down, but Copper explodes! Man who built house out of pennies sought by Warren Buffet for advice


Wow, didn't know my thoughts would be attacked here. Just throwing some ideas out. Some of us cant afford gold. Thinking about the longterm, copper is used in many things. But thats beside the point. :roll:

Gold is just not senseable unless you have a lot of wealth. Silver is fine, and I never said it wasn't. So anyways, as the question I asked, can anyone give an expert opinion about the value of 95% copper, 5% zinc mix?
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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby cccmachine » Sun 26 Mar 2006, 23:12:20

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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby Rob_0126 » Sun 26 Mar 2006, 23:44:00

Found a little something myself; interesting.
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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby green_achers » Wed 29 Mar 2006, 23:50:09

Stockpiling base metals only makes sense if you think a worst-case scenario is likely. In that case, I would recommend aluminum. It was one of the most rare metals before a method to refine it was developed that uses large amounts of electricity. Yet it has a pretty low melting point and can be recycled pretty easily. If you have space, throw a few hundred pounds of scrap or old beer/pop cans in a hole somewhere and forget about it.
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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby strider3700 » Thu 30 Mar 2006, 00:08:01

pennies are a pretty crappy way to get copper for investing, they would need to be purified so you'll get a hefty charge to do that. Wire and copper pipe would be a much better way to go. My family fairly regularly strips old copper wire and takes it back. By using a knife to remove the insulation the copper comes out clean and is worth more then copper that had the insulation burnt off. It takes a lot of copper to be worth much.

Stock piling copper wire and pipe will probably be worth more as wire and pipe then the raw copper in the future.
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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby Schneider » Thu 30 Mar 2006, 22:00:26

Silver is nice..

One nice way to use it, is, as a water purificator !

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Re: Precious Metals

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Fri 31 Mar 2006, 12:40:17

copper pennies solder well. that alloy is useful.
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Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby mattduke » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 20:25:32

Just curious.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby coyote » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 22:23:08

Option 4: I know what it is but don't own any; hoping and waiting for a more opportune time to invest.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby JoeCoal » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 22:32:53

Yesterday and Today were a most opportune time to invest. I just grabbed another pound. It might last till Monday. The next good time to invest will cost more than today... :wink:
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 23:38:08

i hate to say it but joecoal is probably right. If the FED can't increase rates much more than 5% then there is something seriously wrong with the economey. Well he's already said they are now at the end at 5% so I guess buy whenever you have some spare money, but it's allways important not to get too comfortable and cocky.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Fri 21 Apr 2006, 23:41:43

Oh, and by the way.

What is your address?
Where do you store it?
When are you usually away from home?
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby rushdy » Sat 22 Apr 2006, 11:15:46

I store mine burried in a locked wooden chest, on an island.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby drew » Sat 22 Apr 2006, 11:28:37

AWWWW, Neopeasant, you stole my fire!!!

Seriously, I gotta agree with you...

Owning precious metals physically is a sure way to get robbed and killed. Anyone here in Canada knows that home invasions seem to be on the rise. I think even a rumour amongst some scummy people that someone has gold would be enough for them to pay a visit.

I have a good chunk of a fund in gold/silver, which is also in a rsp, making it near impossible for anyone, including me, to cash it out.

RSPs are great....

It's not really my money, but the federal gov's..

I guess I'm screwed if the country suddenly folds.

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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby SoothSayer » Sat 22 Apr 2006, 11:42:28

>> I store mine burried in a locked wooden chest, on an island.

A while ago I worked for a European bank. Most vaults were "no lone zone" areas i.e. TWO staff were needed at all times. However a few very trusted staff were allowed lone access.

So ... one of these guys nearing retirement steals a case of banknotes, takes it off-site, and buries it on an island in a river.

However the CCTV shows him stealing the money, so he has to get it back ... oops, someone had dug it up in the meantime!

They never found out if someone had seen the burying take place and had come back later with a spade .. or if it was a double-bluff by the original thief.

He was jailed but only for a few years.

Security at the bank after that was raised to RIDUCULOUS levels. [Vaults within vaults, electronic code pads and lots more]
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 22 Apr 2006, 19:36:12

I bought some gold and silver through the Perth Mint a couple of months ago. They keep the metal in their vault and send me a certificate stating how much I own. I can get them to send it to me at any time. It's unallocated at the moment, ie. I own a part of a pool of gold not labelled for anyone. I can pay a little extra and get it allocated and then they'll take the physical metals and place them in a little box with my name on it. At the moment I figure they are better able to store it safely than I am.

My only real regret is that I didn't have a spare 10 000 (minimum investment amount) to buy more on Thursday.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby JoeCoal » Sun 23 Apr 2006, 17:09:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'O')wning precious metals physically is a sure way to get robbed and killed.


This is part of the corporate brainwashing that that has been going on for decades. We the Sheeple are also supposed to avoid PM because it is a “barbaric relic” and it “doesn't earn interest” and it “doesn't pay dividends” etc. ad nauseum. This is a pile of lies told by the banking industry to make their worthless paper “money” more attractive.

How does having PM in my house make me more likely to be robbed? I don't have a big sign on the door stating the size of my hoard. No one knows it's there but me.

Anyone who THINKS they own PM on paper (especially "unallocated") is in for a BIG disappointment when the mountain of short positions (market manipulation to depress the price) come crashing down and all that paper gets defaulted on.

Think a safety deposit box at a bank is safe? Wrong again – in the 30's the Government confiscated Gold, and bank officers were required to watch safety deposit boxes every time they were opened, and confiscate any gold they found. Of course, they “paid” worthless paper for it – but it was still theft.

In the event of a fiscal crisis, this very well could happen again. And isn't the virtual certainty of a fiscal crisis the reason we're dumping paper for real money in the first place?

Buy physical and hold locally.

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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby bobaloo » Mon 24 Apr 2006, 19:43:13

I'm invested heavily in brass and lead.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby strider3700 » Mon 24 Apr 2006, 22:51:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobaloo', 'I')'m invested heavily in brass and lead.


pipe fittings and batteries? I've got my fair share of copper stuffed away as well.
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Re: Do you own precious metal?

Unread postby Pretorian » Tue 25 Apr 2006, 04:37:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JoeCoal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('drew', 'O')wning precious metals physically is a sure way to get robbed and killed.


This is part of the corporate brainwashing that that has been going on for decades. ]


For a couple thousands of years + actually. Ancient jewellers were issuing same "sertificates" as above mentioned australian mint. They've always had more sertificates issued than gold. That's how they did their dough. Btw, what had happened on Thursday with PM?
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