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Elecric Universe; a new power source?

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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 04:42:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Q')uote:
Were are the missing Nuetrinos from the sun?

There are'nt any. This question is five years aswered, as the neutrinos oscilate between flavors.


Realy :roll: I agree the sun operates this way

“The composition and mechanical inner workings of the sun beneath the visible photosphere have remained an enigma for thousands of years.”

“Galileo was the founding father of the gas model theory of the sun. He observed the sun through a relatively primitive telescope”

“Galileo did not have multimillion dollar “eyes” and Doppler imaging systems to look beneath the chaotic surface of the photosphere. Only in the past 10 years, a virtual blink of an eye in scientific terms, have we had the technology to put Galileo's assumption to the test with modern satellite observations.”

…and they are different.

“It turns out however, that modern satellite images now lend strong observational support for the electrical model of the sun”


The Suns surface




..as above so below?
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby kochevnik » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 23:40:05

If you're going to call someone 'retarted' you might want to at least learn how to spell the word correctly. There are so many holes in current astrophysics theory you could drive a galaxy thru them. The distant quasar paradox has been all over the news for quite some time - dozens of others oddities make mincemeat of most of current conventional thinking.

Try asking something remarkably simple - just what the fuck is gravity ? NO theory posits either a fundamental particle, or a relationship to anything. It's like a giant fucking pink elephant in the middle of the room that all physicists studiously ignore. If your average first grader can ask dozens of questions no Nobel Prize winning physicist on earth can even hope to answer with the current state of theory - then I would say there is substantial room for improvement. ALL ideas should be considered without ridicule.
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby Magus » Sat 04 Mar 2006, 15:10:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', 'I')f you're going to call someone 'retarted' you might want to at least learn how to spell the word correctly.There are so many holes in current astrophysics theory you could drive a galaxy thru them. The distant quasar paradox has been all over the news for quite some time - dozens of others oddities make mincemeat of most of current conventional thinking.
Try asking something remarkably simple - just what the fuck is gravity ? NO theory posits either a fundamental particle, or a relationship to anything. It's like a giant fucking pink elephant in the middle of the room that all physicists studiously ignore. If your average first grader can ask dozens of questions no Nobel Prize winning physicist on earth can even hope to answer with the current state of theory - then I would say there is substantial room for improvement. ALL ideas should be considered without ridicule.

Hmm, thought I replied to this last night, but either my computer screwed up, or my post didn't get through for some reason. [smilie=dontknow.gif] Anyways, I basically said that I agree with you, kochevnik, in that this theory is no more rediculous than those coming out of Physics and Quantum Mechanics today. I actually find some of sol's ideas intriguing, and plan do to some following up of my own.
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Sat 04 Mar 2006, 21:43:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nyways, I basically said that I agree with you, kochevnik, in that this theory is no more ridiculous than those coming out of Physics and Quantum Mechanics today. I actually find some of sol's ideas intriguing, and plan do to some following up of my own

Would be interested to see what you come up with Magnus. :)
kochevnik, Thanks, my point with this post was that our current paradigm is all but dead and that the "experts" choose not to see the "pink elephant", because that would lead to having to change what we "know" :roll:
Prolly wont help us with the "peak" everything situation, but I just get to wondering what might of happened if the US gov had got behind someone like Tesla instead of "big" oil and power companies. Asset inertia sucks :x

Tesla had it right??$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')If we really understood the electrical nature of the fabric of our universe, we might be able to tap into that wheelwork of creation that Tesla talked about.

LINK HERE

Another interesting link . I ask myself the question WHY NASA wont tell us this stuff, is it because will can not handel the truth :roll:
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 10:09:19

This is were it leads too I think 8)



Focus fusion

One way to get that pesky cold fusion thing happening 8O

Amazing [smilie=icon_sunny.gif] just simple, elegent and totaly do-able :-D have a couple of base load pwr stations running these and a few other handy items Tesla thought up and I'm willing to change my paradigm :) 8O

But hang on, how do we make money from it :cry: :evil:

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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby DefiledEngine » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 10:45:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Try asking something remarkably simple - just what the fuck is gravity ? NO theory posits either a fundamental particle, or a relationship to anything. It's like a giant fucking pink elephant in the middle of the room that all physicists studiously ignore.


Umm, are you actually saying that there are no theories about what Gravity is? Are you saying that there are no theories about gravitrons or strings?
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 03:52:18

All of a sudden this shows up and of al places PO.com 8O 8O 8O

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese NASA-designed structures, called solar power satellites, will convert sunlight into electricity, then use weak, pollution-free, environmentally safe microwave beams to send that energy down to simple antennas anywhere on Earth. The antennas will convert the beams back into electricity and feed it into standard existing power grids at an extremely low cost. The system will operate 24/7 overcoming the drawback of rooftop solar cells and windmills.


Fu%^$n Wankers :x :evil: :(

Are these not Tesla towers???? He had the idea back in the early 20th century :cry: (knida ironically when liquid fossil fuels got going) i think we've duped big time by our own collective greed :evil:

If the above post's directly link in with this idea HERE then do we realy need the solar panels??

And why aren’t we already transmitting power via the EM band if it's harmless??? we've got millions of miles of transmission lines all over the world, very much a liability during solar maximums 8O plus we could have a global grid and millions more people would have access to electrical power 8O negates to some extent the GCC thing with less emission. Shit even the hydrogen economy could get going :wink:

But are we still to immature in the cosmic scheme of things?? We still do childish stuff like kids in the schoolyard, shit like fighting wars and wot not ??

The website quoted above sounds a little dodgey, .i.e. like building an new shuttle fleet, that idea has to die with the fossil fuel age as well. :roll:

Is it possible to put a human into space using electromagnetic propulsion??? seems it could be 8O

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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby Doly » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 05:27:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sol', '
')And why aren’t we already transmitting power via the EM band if it's harmless???


Because it isn't. High-intensity microwaves cook stuff. Used in something called microwave ovens, ever heard of them?
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 07:57:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecause it isn't. High-intensity microwaves cook stuff. Used in something called microwave ovens, ever heard of them?


Sure if you stand in front of one!!! but do you go and play with high tension wires??? it's a moot point spose.

You could end up makeing a weapon from it :!: ..damn...so I quess we will never know, hey Dolly :roll:


Is that not what mobile phones use and our head is right next to it? :cry:
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby 0mar » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 17:55:49

I said and it and I'll say it again.

Sol, quit looking at a physics book and picking out random terms and putting them into sentences.

There isn't a vast conspiracy to suppress any theories of science. If a theory is valid, it will be vindicated or shutdown, simple as that.
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Sun 19 Mar 2006, 23:17:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') said and it and I'll say it again.

Sol, quit looking at a physics book and picking out random terms and putting them into sentences.

There isn't a vast conspiracy to suppress any theories of science. If a theory is valid, it will be vindicated or shutdown, simple as that.


And now the Big bang/expanding universe model has been shot to pieces??? Should it be shut down or do we keep coming up with new theories (that don't match observation or common sense :roll: ) to keep trying to make that model fit :cry:

The electric universe model is being vindicated with nearly all observed phenomena in space leading to the same observed phenomena in the lab, and like the axiom

[marq=up]

As above, so below[/marq]

if we can observe it in a lab, all that needs to happen is to turn up the power, and the universe is full of infinite electrical power.

Mother natures most efficient way of moving matter around the universe is to ionize it then electrically accelerate it to tremendous speeds to virtually anywhere, then recondesne it back into matter .i.e. star forming regions.

And so the grand process of renewal, death/rebirth is kept going indefinitely :)

Planetary nebulae are not only glowing from nearby stars they are plasma in the glow discharge phase, when matter recondeses to enough mass/size and electrical difference is great enough, then plasma enters the arc discharge phase and bingo a new Sun. It then tries to reach equilibrium by adjusting it's size to match the incoming power, too much mass (or surface area) and it blows matter off into space to recondense into first gas giants then terrestrial planets then comets/asteroids, those Coronal mass ejections have to end up somewhere. Too little mass and it either doesn’t start arcing (brown dwarf) or will just form gas clouds (hydrogen. oxygen etc)

Just my take though :-D
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby sol » Mon 20 Mar 2006, 23:39:40

Now if you could just imagine 8O 8) 8) 8) 8)

If these ideas saw the light of day caould you imagine the internet :) :) :) would make ADSL as good as Morse code :lol: :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he terrestrial transmission line modes so excited would have supported a system with the following technical capabilities:

1. Establishment of a multi-channel global broadcasting system with programming including news, music, etc;
2. Interconnection of the world's telephone and telegraph exchanges, and stock tickers;
3. Transmission of written and printed matter, and data;
4. World wide reproduction of photographic images;
5. Establishment of a universal marine navigation and location system, including a means for the synchronization of precision timepieces;
6. Establishment of secure wireless communications services.





$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') said and it and I'll say it again.

Sol, quit looking at a physics book and picking out random terms and putting them into sentences.

There isn't a vast conspiracy to suppress any theories of science. If a theory is valid, it will be vindicated or shutdown, simple as that.


What do you think Omar??

worth a look? FULL LINK :)
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Re: Elecric Universe; a new power source?

Unread postby 0mar » Tue 21 Mar 2006, 05:43:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sol', 'N')ow if you could just imagine 8O 8) 8) 8) 8)

If these ideas saw the light of day caould you imagine the internet :) :) :) would make ADSL as good as Morse code :lol: :lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he terrestrial transmission line modes so excited would have supported a system with the following technical capabilities:

1. Establishment of a multi-channel global broadcasting system with programming including news, music, etc;
2. Interconnection of the world's telephone and telegraph exchanges, and stock tickers;
3. Transmission of written and printed matter, and data;
4. World wide reproduction of photographic images;
5. Establishment of a universal marine navigation and location system, including a means for the synchronization of precision timepieces;
6. Establishment of secure wireless communications services.





$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') said and it and I'll say it again.

Sol, quit looking at a physics book and picking out random terms and putting them into sentences.

There isn't a vast conspiracy to suppress any theories of science. If a theory is valid, it will be vindicated or shutdown, simple as that.


What do you think Omar??

worth a look? FULL LINK :)


Get your shit peer reviewed. Then I'll consider what you have to say. I'm not going to shift through 15-20 pages of pseudo science. Send it off to a physics journal and see what they say.
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