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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby TheTurtle » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 22:35:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', ' ')

What's wrong with the northern Europeans? Being a European doesn't automatically make you a Nazi!

I expect an apology here... :x


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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby kochevnik » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 23:52:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '
')The book was written in 1997, so I don't know what they would call the generation born 2003 - 2018? ... maybe the Peak Oil Generation? :lol:



They're called the Millies - short for Millenials and they are the replacements for the GI's - the Greatest generation. Their fate is to act as cannon fodder for the next great Crisis/War due in the 2020-2025 timeframe (how convenient for the PO theory). Kind of neat how history rhymes every 80 years isn't it ?
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 00:35:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kochevnik', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '
')The book was written in 1997, so I don't know what they would call the generation born 2003 - 2018? ... maybe the Peak Oil Generation? :lol:



They're called the Millies - short for Millenials and they are the replacements for the GI's - the Greatest generation. Their fate is to act as cannon fodder for the next great Crisis/War due in the 2020-2025 timeframe (how convenient for the PO theory). Kind of neat how history rhymes every 80 years isn't it ?


The Fourth Turning called the folks born from 1982 - 2002 the Millennials. But yes, they are to be the ones who move to center stage during the 4th Turning - the Crisis.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 01:56:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'T')hey call it the G.I. Generation (1901-1924), followed by the Silent Generation (1925-1942), the Baby Boomer Generation (1943-1960), the Thirteenth (as in 13 generations who can call themselves American) Generation or Generation-X (1961-1981) and the Millennial Generation (1982-2002).


Which one gets the name the "Last Generation"?
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 02:16:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', '.')..Nothing was really solved or americas future protected because of it. example wide open borders and mulitculturalism. Thought the war was for future generations protection. nope all a scam and lie...




We solved Nazism. We solved Japanese Imperialism. We solved Italian Fascism. Sounds like we have historical revisionists lurking around this site, along with paranoid conspiracy theorists.


Are you out of your freaking mind? You solved Nazism? You simply opened a new franchise, my friend.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 02:21:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', '.')..Nothing was really solved or americas future protected because of it. example wide open borders and mulitculturalism. Thought the war was for future generations protection. nope all a scam and lie...




We solved Nazism. We solved Japanese Imperialism. We solved Italian Fascism. Sounds like we have historical revisionists lurking around this site, along with paranoid conspiracy theorists.


Are you out of your freaking mind? You solved Nazism? You simply opened a new franchise, my friend.


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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 13:30:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daculling', ' ') Now back to my Glen Miller recordings. That not a joke BTW.

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Drunk or sober, Glen Miller sounds good. If there are still people listening to recorded music 50 years from now, a big if, they will wonder just what the hell happened to 20th Century music. It went from classy, well conceived and played music that was fresh and original to a degraded style with only 2 modes of expression: pouty whining and criminal rage.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Zardoz » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 16:52:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '.')..Are you out of your freaking mind? You solved Nazism? You simply opened a new franchise, my friend.


That was a rhetorical "we". I ain't that old...

Please elaborate on the "new franchise" that has been opened. Are you referring to the pitiful neo-Nazis? Are you comparing them to the Third Reich? Have the skinheads started a world war that killed, at minimum, 45,000,000 people? Have the skinheads occupied and controlled virtually all of Europe and operated a mass-murder industry that claimed 9,000,000 victims?

Please clarify.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby threadbear » Sat 11 Mar 2006, 20:23:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '.')..Are you out of your freaking mind? You solved Nazism? You simply opened a new franchise, my friend.


That was a rhetorical "we". I ain't that old...

Please elaborate on the "new franchise" that has been opened. Are you referring to the pitiful neo-Nazis? Are you comparing them to the Third Reich? Have the skinheads started a world war that killed, at minimum, 45,000,000 people? Have the skinheads occupied and controlled virtually all of Europe and operated a mass-murder industry that claimed 9,000,000 victims?

Please clarify.


Not skinheads, pinheads! You know, Man---the dufuses in the WhiteHouse and their constituents.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby horsestoaster » Sat 18 Mar 2006, 22:57:10

My father was one of that "great generation' and indeed ,they were to be admired.My folks both survived the greatest depression(yet).I was raised if you had food to eat,a job,and a roof you were a success.My father was an only child and volunteered for the Rangers(wanna know 7 ways to kill someone with a piece of wire?).He fought for 4 years.They took NO prisoners-military or civilian.They fought a village for a 3 day old dead horse.My dad weighed 128lbs when he came home and could sneak up on you in broad daylight well into his 60's.He was a firefighter for 27 years also.His idea of a good time was to take us kids to a particularly grisly fire aftermath that was still smoking or show us autopsy photos(fun stuff when you're 7!).He would do anything to ensure the survival of his family as would my Mum.So will I.There'll always be some fat cow to make soap out of.End of rant.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 19 Mar 2006, 00:09:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('horsestoaster', 'M')y father was one of that "great generation' and indeed ,they were to be admired.My folks both survived the greatest depression(yet).I was raised if you had food to eat,a job,and a roof you were a success.My father was an only child and volunteered for the Rangers(wanna know 7 ways to kill someone with a piece of wire?).He fought for 4 years.They took NO prisoners-military or civilian.They fought a village for a 3 day old dead horse.My dad weighed 128lbs when he came home and could sneak up on you in broad daylight well into his 60's.He was a firefighter for 27 years also.His idea of a good time was to take us kids to a particularly grisly fire aftermath that was still smoking or show us autopsy photos(fun stuff when you're 7!).He would do anything to ensure the survival of his family as would my Mum.So will I.There'll always be some fat cow to make soap out of.End of rant.


Lovely--I rest my case.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sun 19 Mar 2006, 13:01:16

In the beginning, the primary fuel for the "Great Generation" was coal. Most heated their homes with coal, a lot of ships still ran on coal also. Oil distillates where up and coming. Fuel oil became so cheap, it was cheaper than coal. A developer named Levitt invented Levittown, the proto-suburb. The suburb paved the way for emptying out the cities, which were not good for your mental health, or so had been determined by psychologists observing rats in crowded conditions. The suburbs where a great economic driver, increasing the demand for cars. Lastly, with the people in the suburbs, why not move the jobs there also. This was the last piece of the puzzle in the decentralization theme. Today, most of the Millennium Generation has never ridden on a train trolley or bus. Many live in developments and depend on Mom to taxi them around. Many of them have never been to a large city. They dream of liberation via automobile. They are the Car Slave Generation.

Maybe the next generation will be the Public Transit Generation.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Daculling » Sun 19 Mar 2006, 21:12:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('horsestoaster', 'H')is idea of a good time was to take us kids to a particularly grisly fire aftermath that was still smoking or show us autopsy photos(fun stuff when you're 7!


That's funny, my dad took me to work on the weekend to watch autopsies. You sir are an idiot. I'm sorry you were so damaged by your childhood.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Magus » Mon 20 Mar 2006, 01:18:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('horsestoaster', 'M')y father was an only child and volunteered for the Rangers(wanna know 7 ways to kill someone with a piece of wire?).He fought for 4 years.They took NO prisoners-military or civilian.They fought a village for a 3 day old dead horse.


Honorable servive to the armed forces is indeed admirable; however, I fail to see how the act you decscribe (killing inncocent civilians) is honorable at all. In fact, that would be a war crime.

Perhaps there is something (I sincerely hope) that you failed to mention that would justify this. Care to elaborate?
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Magus » Mon 20 Mar 2006, 01:44:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') would guess the median age here to be 32-33. There's some college kids and younger, and a few boomers, but how many really old people over say, late 60s? early 70s. I've seen some people look really old and worn out at 40. but for the most part, over 70 is old and part of the "greatest generation" as that asskisser Brokaw put it. I can sympathize with the young oldergenerationtrashers that I read here sometimes, I know the feeling. My general impression of that older WWII bunch is not good. But they had some great musicians. And they fought like hell.


Some harsh comments have been said here about the World War II generation, and some of their actions appears to us here today to be foolish.

We must rembember, that these people didn't have access to the internet, or CNN on the television to watch. In many cases, they didn't even have a good library to visit. The population of the early twentieth century, allthough in the process of changing, was still by-and-large a rural population; And to put it politely, these folks were just plain ignorant.

The idea of globalization and its effects on the domestic economy had just not registered yet. What use is it to know what's going on over on the other side of the globe, if you have to worry about taking care of animals and planting crops.

Now, granted, that doesn't fully clear them of blame. There was still plenty of oppurtunity for postive changes that were not taken, and there is no excuse for not knowing what is pertinant to your own country! The average American got into both world wars knowing very little about why they were actually fighting, except maybe "HITLER IS A BAD MAN!" or "WE MUST AVENGE THE LUSITANIA/PEARL HARBOR!"

I doubt that the deeper root causes of the conflicts, and their great ramifcations on the future cource of history, ever passed even remotely through their minds.
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 20 Mar 2006, 04:23:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Magus', '.')..I doubt that the deeper root causes of the conflicts, and their great ramifcations on the future cource of history, ever passed even remotely through their minds.


Do you actually think that generation was less educated, less thoughtful, less analytical, and less aware than the current generation?

48% of the American people believe in Creationism now! About 80% of the troops in Iraq think they're there because Saddam was involved in 9/11! What, you think the Anime Generation has a clue about where we are, how we got here, or where we're going?

You gotta be kidding. You think Americans of the World War II generation were somehow unaware of how the Third Reich arose? You think they didn't know how long Imperial Japan had been terrorizing Asia? You think they didn't know how Mussolini and his brownshirts came to power?

Guess again! They could actually read, which, as we all know, is pretty much a lost art these days, isn't it?

This thread is amazing...
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 20 Mar 2006, 04:27:58

Damned double posts...
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Re: "The Greatest Generation"

Unread postby Magus » Tue 21 Mar 2006, 02:20:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Magus', '.')..I doubt that the deeper root causes of the conflicts, and their great ramifcations on the future cource of history, ever passed even remotely through their minds.


Do you actually think that generation was less educated, less thoughtful, less analytical, and less aware than the current generation?

48% of the American people believe in Creationism now! About 80% of the troops in Iraq think they're there because Saddam was involved in 9/11! What, you think the Anime Generation has a clue about where we are, how we got here, or where we're going?

You gotta be kidding. You think Americans of the World War II generation were somehow unaware of how the Third Reich arose? You think they didn't know how long Imperial Japan had been terrorizing Asia? You think they didn't know how Mussolini and his brownshirts came to power?

Guess again! They could actually read, which, as we all know, is pretty much a lost art these days, isn't it?

This thread is amazing...


I understand your frustration with certain members of the present generation...but aren't you exaggerating in your post...just a bit?

Remember that Americans were taken by total surprize when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, but they really should have seen it coming, since Japan was actually REACTING to moves the United States itself had made to threaten the Japanese shipping routes. Also, many failed to recognize Nazi Germany as a threat. Recall the "Nazi Olympics."

The present generation (which I happen to be a part of) is not as ignorant as you seem to belive it is. Not completely. More and more, people are becoming aware that they have been deceived. With the tool of the internet, for the first time Americans can see their own country from a different point of view, and perhaps make some much needed changes.

(By the way, what do you have against anime, anyway?) [smilie=argue.gif]
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