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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 17:41:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alecifel', '
')The "crazies" in fact are the ones to watch out for. When the trouble begins to set in, these are the ones who will pick up their rifles, hoard every drop of gasoline, fresh water and canned meat they can get their hands on, and shoot anyone who comes close enough to see them. But society will deal with them briskly enough.
consider this a warning to you who would try and sock away some provisions for hard times, society will hunt you down and confiscate your precious stores. if you resist you will be branded an enemy of the state and executed. that is all.


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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby bobcousins » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:23:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 'S')adly, you are right. There is no real discussion here, it's just doom and doomer.

There are other sites with a much more realistic approach.


But please be sure to stick around long enough to make at least 860 posts to PO.com before you leave for other sites, Warnio. That's the only way you'll be able to adequately judge bobcousins' assessment of this site. :P


Huh?

Anyway, I'm hoping to get up to 1000 before I leave so I can claim my prize!
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:27:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bobcousins', 'S')adly, you are right. There is no real discussion here, it's just doom and doomer.

There are other sites with a much more realistic approach.


But please be sure to stick around long enough to make at least 860 posts to PO.com before you leave for other sites, Warnio. That's the only way you'll be able to adequately judge bobcousins' assessment of this site. :P


Huh?

Anyway, I'm hoping to get up to 1000 before I leave so I can claim my prize!


Why don't you get a life instead...
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 20:06:49

It would be very interesting to hear the doomers explain where the police and military presonnel go after PO. We hear them talking about a post-PO zombie world without any kind of social structure or public protection.

At the same time, they assume that there will be armies of bureaucrats running around waving documents to show the zombies that this particular piece of land actually belongs to the doomer and was paid for in gold, and asking the zombies to please do their zombie stuff elsewhere.

I mean in a post-PO zombie world, who gives a living fuck if the doomer in question owns the land he's protecting or not? Why not dig trenches in ANY piece of land and protect it with machine guns like it belonged to you?

I'd like to hear a doomer or gun nut explain this!
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 20:28:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I')t would be very interesting to hear the doomers explain where the police and military presonnel go after PO. We hear them talking about a post-PO zombie world without any kind of social structure or public protection.


Well, if it goes down in chaos, the bankrupt governments won't be able to...you know...PAY their soldiers and police, so the soldiers and police will look after their own asses. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they are trained and comfortable with the use of lethal force. Most of the rest of us are not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'A')t the same time, they assume that there will be armies of bureaucrats running around waving documents to show the zombies that this particular piece of land actually belongs to the doomer and was paid for in gold, and asking the zombies to please do their zombie stuff elsewhere.


Well...I think that's just hope. Personally, I have no illusions.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I') mean in a post-PO zombie world, who gives a living fuck if the doomer in question owns the land he's protecting or not? Why not dig trenches in ANY piece of land and protect it with machine guns like it belonged to you?

I'd like to hear a doomer or gun nut explain this!


There's a tactical advantage to the defensive position. It will be a lot more difficult for the post-PO zombies to force out the dug-in doomer than it will be for said doomer to defend what he claims as his own. Especially if the dug-in doomer is well fed, and the zombies are ragged and half-starved. Not impossible, mind you, just more difficult.
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 21:46:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I')t would be very interesting to hear the doomers explain where the police and military presonnel go after PO. We hear them talking about a post-PO zombie world without any kind of social structure or public protection.


Well, if it goes down in chaos, the bankrupt governments won't be able to...you know...PAY their soldiers and police, so the soldiers and police will look after their own asses. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they are trained and comfortable with the use of lethal force. Most of the rest of us are not.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'A')t the same time, they assume that there will be armies of bureaucrats running around waving documents to show the zombies that this particular piece of land actually belongs to the doomer and was paid for in gold, and asking the zombies to please do their zombie stuff elsewhere.


Well...I think that's just hope. Personally, I have no illusions.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I') mean in a post-PO zombie world, who gives a living fuck if the doomer in question owns the land he's protecting or not? Why not dig trenches in ANY piece of land and protect it with machine guns like it belonged to you?

I'd like to hear a doomer or gun nut explain this!


There's a tactical advantage to the defensive position. It will be a lot more difficult for the post-PO zombies to force out the dug-in doomer than it will be for said doomer to defend what he claims as his own. Especially if the dug-in doomer is well fed, and the zombies are ragged and half-starved. Not impossible, mind you, just more difficult.


OK. First of all, thanks for biting. The second and third answers made sense. I stand corrected!

However... Wouldn't it be better for a soldier or a police man to choose to stay where he is than to choose an uncertain future alone in the post -PO zombie world? I mean people normally don't go to war because they like it but because they have to. If THEY promised you that you and your family would be protected and taken care of if you'd just shoot a couple of gun nut rednecks, wouldn't you choose that?

I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why would our beloved leaders choose to give up what they have when they have so much to lose? Why would a soldier choose a certain death for himself and his family when he could stay and do his job, without pay maybe, if he knew that his wife and children would be protected from the zombies?

It just doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 22:33:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I')'m sorry but I don't get it. Why would our beloved leaders choose to give up what they have when they have so much to lose? Why would a soldier choose a certain death for himself and his family when he could stay and do his job, without pay maybe, if he knew that his wife and children would be protected from the zombies?


You really can't understand doomerism without watching the Mad Max trilogy a few times. I know Australia is a long ways from Germany, but if we xenophobic Americans can watch them, then surely you open mined Europeans can manage.

As clearly demonstrated in the original Mad Max, a soldier or policeman would walk away because increased poverty and desperation lead to increased lawlessness. Policemen will watch their buddies die in gruesome ways and then have their girlfriend run over by ruthless biker gangs killing her and the policeman's infant child. Policemen will then turn to selfishness and crime as a way to exact their revenge on the world. Thus quoth Mel Gibson.

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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Wednesday » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 22:45:38

Zombies?
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Ayoob » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 22:48:23

I think one of the better examples is the Ostrogoths. The Huns chased the Ostrogoths out of their home and they decided to head for Roman territory to save their skins.

The Roman soldiers put them in a... camp... I don't know what else to call it. A field? Anyway, there they are, very little food, very little water. It's not long before they're starving. The huns behind and hunger ahead.

They sold their children into slavery in the hopes that at least a slavemaster would feed them. As their skeletons showed through more and more, and they realized that the Romans would leave them to starve to death and the Huns would cut them to ribbons, there was only one choice.

They stormed the Roman guards and cut them to ribbons instead. Emboldened by this early success, they marched through the fat and happy Roman lands. They sacked town after town, and I believe picked up slaves along the way, and made their way to Rome itself and gorged themselves on what was there.


Is this really a new thing? Or maybe the history of the world began in 1950 in Suburban USA.
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 22:58:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'I')'m sorry but I don't get it. Why would our beloved leaders choose to give up what they have when they have so much to lose? Why would a soldier choose a certain death for himself and his family when he could stay and do his job, without pay maybe, if he knew that his wife and children would be protected from the zombies?


You really can't understand doomerism without watching the Mad Max trilogy a few times. I know Australia is a long ways from Germany, but if we xenophobic Americans can watch them, then surely you open mined Europeans can manage.

As clearly demonstrated in the original Mad Max, a soldier or policeman would walk away because increased poverty and desperation lead to increased lawlessness. Policemen will watch their buddies die in gruesome ways and then have their girlfriend run over by ruthless biker gangs killing her and the policeman's infant child. Policemen will then turn to selfishness and crime as a way to exact their revenge on the world. Thus quoth Mel Gibson.

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Thanks for your answer and for being my friend SPG!

So the PO theory is actually based on an old movie with that hairy, ultra orthodox catholic guy Gibson?

Can't we start a Protestant, PO-light fraction based on the movie 'Match Point' by Woody Allen? I'd be more comfortable in a post-PO world if Scarlett Johansson was in it instead of zombies.

Who would be interested in a Scarlett Johansson PO-light theory? I'll start a website and a forum and even write a book about it.
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 00:43:47

There are much more of these at PO.com nowadays......
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Before there were more of these here, now they have all gone.....
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Also more of these are comming.....
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby Schweinshaxe » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 17:50:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dukat_Reloaded', 'T')here are much more of these at PO.com nowadays......
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Before there were more of these here, now they have all gone.....
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Also more of these are comming.....
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Perfect! :lol:
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Re: Obsession about peak oil.

Unread postby TheTurtle » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 19:00:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', 'W')ho would be interested in a Scarlett Johansson PO-light theory? I'll start a website and a forum and even write a book about it.


Sign me up. I would gladly visit such a website and participate in your forum. I would also read your book and might even buy it if the price were right.
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