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Re: White House approves US port purchases by UAE

Unread postby shakespear1 » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 06:37:15

Now you guys got me thinking.

What if the control of the ports could in some way be used to bring in the "dirty bomb". Just a thought. Heck, ports need maintenance, security shut down or what ever excuse, and in come the goods. Staff working there is chosen by the OWNER!!!

Any way you cut it this deal smells like hell. When I fly into the use I need to take my shoes off because I am a suspect. Here we have the suspects buying strategic property in the USA !!! Amazing 8) 8) 8)
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Re: White House approves US port purchases by UAE

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 07:11:03

The UAE control of US ports is growing exponentially.

UAE terminal takeover extends to 21 ports
http://upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.p ... 1657-4981r

By wednesday we should have learned that they're actually taking control of 64 ports, 7 airports, Bank of America and your mortgage.

Without a doubt they own the whitehouse.
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Re: White House approves US port purchases by UAE

Unread postby smiley » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 14:27:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ithout a doubt they own the whitehouse.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'U')nited States

Table A: Gross External Debt Position*: September 30, 2005
(Millions of U.S. Dollars)

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GROSS EXTERNAL DEBT * 9,320,014

http://www.treas.gov/tic/debta905.html
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Re: White House approves US port purchases by UAE

Unread postby rogerhb » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 05:05:12

US Coast Guard warned about ports

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BBC', 'T')he US Coast Guard warned there were gaps in intelligence over the security risk of an Arab firm bidding to run six major US ports, the Senate has heard.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BBC', 'A') new opinion poll has shown 70% of Americans surveyed oppose the deal.
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Ski Dubai

Unread postby jaws » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 01:27:10

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Re: Ski Dubai

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 03:59:49

Is that white Astroturf, or do they actually make arti-snow?
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Re: Ski Dubai

Unread postby jaws » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 15:38:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'I')s that white Astroturf, or do they actually make arti-snow?
Why do you think they're all wearing winter coats?
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Re: Ski Dubai

Unread postby gary_malcolm » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 15:57:06

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There is no alternative source for our gluttony. Power down or die.
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Re: Ski Dubai

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 17:53:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Keith_McClary', 'I')s that white Astroturf, or do they actually make arti-snow?

It's definately snow. With the amount of money in the UAE, do you really have to ask? LOL!
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Re: Ski Dubai

Unread postby smiley » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 18:00:41

They can't be that expensive. Even we can afford them

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Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby TITAN » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 18:31:20

Could this have been the planned outcome all along?

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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 18:48:38

I just hope no one draws up any cartoons about the matter. Then we're in for real trouble.
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 18:57:25

Sounds like a good time to buy into Airbus...

On the cartoon side, some "Trojan Horse" metaphor would be appropriate.
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby Novus » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:07:04

Is this port deal be turning into America's Suez moment? All I have to say is the port deal better go through or America is in for a very rude awakening. A dollar crisis now could easily double or triple the price of oil.
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby Jellric » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:16:00

They act like they were entitled to the deal. Someone should inform them that doing business with another country is a privilege, not a right.

Initially the deal sounded to me like the plans of an insane person..The Bush admin undermining its sole political advantage of seeming to be stronger vs. terrorism..further driving down Bush's already low approval ratings..handing Democrats an election issue going into the 2006 elections..

It did sound insane. That is until you consider that the UAE sits very close to the Straits of Hormuz, a waterway which is a strategic bottleneck between Oman and Iran where it would be possible to block all oil tankers from most of the Persian Gulf oil fields. A war against Iran would require the U.S. to secure this area with UAE approval. Iran has already threatened to use oil as a weapon. Evidently this port deal was a reward to the UAE in exchange for control over this area.

The Bush admin may be consistently wrong, but they aren't crazy.
They know exactly what they are doing.

Just like Iraq, this is about oil.

The Bush shell game goes on..
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:36:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jellric', 'T')hey act like they were entitled to the deal. Someone should inform them that doing business with another country is a privilege, not a right.


Unless, it's a refusal to sell oil of course.
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby smiley » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 19:55:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hey act like they were entitled to the deal. Someone should inform them that doing business with another country is a privilege, not a right.


They are entitled to the deal. This is not like the Chinese firms trying to buy American oilfields.

This is how I understand the situation is. DPW bought P&O and P&O owned the harbor rights. So technically they are not even doing business with the US but with Britain. Legally the US has no authority to block the DPW - P&O deal or any part of it. Secondly they have already payed for the harbor management rights. It was part of the P&O deal.

Then there are not a lot of options here. If they just deny the rights to DPW without any kind of compensation, investors will flee the US. It will be a worse drama than Yukos.

If the congress decides to deny DPW the right to manage these ports, they will have to buy DPW out. Then it will cost them a lot of money and they will still lose a lot of credit around the world.

So take your pick.

Selling those rights to a British company was a stupid idea in the first place.
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby Jellric » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 20:03:42

I don't pretend to know about the legal entanglements of the port deal, but if we need to change the laws to block this ill-conceived deal then so be it.

The people have spoken.
We want no part of this deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... poll_x.htm
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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 20:22:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jellric', 'I') don't pretend to know about the legal entanglements of the port deal, but if we need to change the laws to block this ill-conceived deal then so be it.

The people have spoken.
We want no part of this deal.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington ... poll_x.htm


Au contraire....

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')res. BUSH: First of all, you know, size of protests--it's like deciding, `Well, I'm going to decide policy based upon a focus group.' The role of a leader is to decide policy based upon, in this case, the security of the people.


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Re: Dubai Port Deal...

Unread postby Jellric » Thu 09 Mar 2006, 20:27:59

I stand by my post.

The American people are overwhelmingly opposed to this deal.

Any politicians are welcome to try to block this steamroller.
If they wish to commit political suicide that is.
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