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I quit...

Unread postby eastbay » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:37:51

... drinking on March 15, 1982. I only remember the date because it's, of course as all of us here know, it's the date our good buddy Julius Caesar got himself whacked. Just about any other date would have been long- forgotten by now.

I'll have 24 years without a drop of alcohol pretty soon... yup, not even one drop, not in medicine, not in food, not even to dress one of the several wounds I've picked up since then. I tell the doctors, 'do NOT use alcohol or anything that has alcohol in it to touch the wound or I will ruin your day... lol'

C2H5OH scares the living daylights out of me and i won't let the stuff near me.

Anyone else here quit that stuff??? There must be a few...
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby MD » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 04:46:21

Congratulations on your lengthy sobriety. May you enjoy many many more years of the same.

The chemical that frightens me has a different name. About 12 yrs since my last. I don't know the specific date
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 11:00:17

No beer?!
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 12:19:28

Good for you EB, you got to reward yourself with something(non-alchoholic of course) nice for such a achevement.

I turn 36 in April, which is old enough to have a past. I used to binge drink pretty hard and do crazy things till I got out of college. I had a problem, but guess I grew out of it. For me I think a lot of it is the enviroment and the fast company I kept. Once a year I like a good sippin' whiskey.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby seahorse2 » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 12:22:05

Eb,

I've never had a drink of anything in 41 years. My reasons for not doing so have changed over the years. Now, I just don't bc why would I start now?

However, there's a lot of stupid stuff I've done, so there's plenty of room for me to be ashamed in life. The not drinking part is the one thing that, in my mind, I can be proud of to try and balance out all the other personal frailities.

Anyway, congratulations. No matter what one chooses to do, its hard to pick a path and stay on it. As someone once told me, the hardest thing to do is to do what's right. That's true no matter what the decision - whether simply being nice, going to work, doing homework, exercising, whatever.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby eastbay » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 13:44:13

Spec,

Nope, not even one. Not even one sip.

Seahorse2, PM,

Man I hope I can someday say that!! :-D Yeah, there's still plenty of room for improvement, that's for sure! :shock: Maybe I'll live long enough to complete that mighty task!

MD,

C2H5OH is only one of several on the list... lol. They're all decades in the past now. But for me C2H5OH was the B*^$% of the bunch, as they say, and the only one I celebrate for a minute or two each year.

A post-peak thought: It's still going to be easy drinking daily IMO, if someone's sufficiently motivated. Most cultures of the past that had alcohol (not all did) always seemed to have enough of it to keep quite a few people regularly intoxicated thereby reducing the likelihood that they would breed the most and slowly eroding that genetic predisposition over time. This was true of both wealthy and poor cultures... so I believe as poor as we'll certainly get there will be that 'stuff' available to those whose cravings are the most intense. It just won't be as simple as 5 bucks a six-pack anymore... lol. :lol:
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 13:59:17

EB-

Post Peak Prayer: Dear God, help us with the angry masses if Milwakee's Best goes to $20 a case.

I wonder what Nicotine and Caffeine addicts will do?
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby eastbay » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 14:09:55

Well Prairiemule I'm glad you asked that question! :) I've been looking into the challenge of planting some tabacco in the back yard, you know, like someone might plant tomato's. It could be traded for all kinds of things, blankets, gas, you-name-it, because tobacco will always be in strong demand no matter how nasty things get.

Now acquiring caffeine may pose a real challenge for those of us living where coffee doesn't grow very well. We may have to get it by growing tea!
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby jimk » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 14:32:18

For me it was 1992, took a vow to abstain from intoxicants, alchohol etc.

Here is one puzzle though. Orange juice, apple cider... how many days do you keep them before declaring them out of bounds? Good fresh apple cider seems to get fizzy in less than a week.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 14:57:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'W')ell Prairiemule I'm glad you asked that question! :) I've been looking into the challenge of planting some tabacco in the back yard, you know, like someone might plant tomato's. It could be traded for all kinds of things, blankets, gas, you-name-it, because tobacco will always be in strong demand no matter how nasty things get.

Now acquiring caffeine may pose a real challenge for those of us living where coffee doesn't grow very well. We may have to get it by growing tea!


Tobbaco, very smart! Universal currency for the foot soldier during the civil war. I just finished planting 3 peach trees and I'm planting watermelons, onions and corn next month. Maybe I'll look into that and corn cobb pipes.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby Jake_old » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 15:50:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'W')ell Prairiemule I'm glad you asked that question! :) I've been looking into the challenge of planting some tabacco in the back yard, you know, like someone might plant tomato's. It could be traded for all kinds of things, blankets, gas, you-name-it, because tobacco will always be in strong demand no matter how nasty things get.

Now acquiring caffeine may pose a real challenge for those of us living where coffee doesn't grow very well. We may have to get it by growing tea!


Tobbaco, very smart! Universal currency for the foot soldier during the civil war. I just finished planting 3 peach trees and I'm planting watermelons, onions and corn next month. Maybe I'll look into that and corn cobb pipes.


Just a thought, I've never done it, but I am reliably informed that you can graft tobaco plants onto potato plants. Could be interesting space saver. Apparently you can do the same with tomatos and potatos.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 16:07:36

In Southern California it grows wild. brought north by spanish missionaries is the story on this plant:

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Re: I quit...

Unread postby eastbay » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 17:41:09

There's a funny thing about having not had any alcohol for so long. Over the years I've gradually and generally stopped mentioning it to friends and others. As a result on special occasions they often bring bottles over to the house as gifts. I thank them and stick it away in a cabinet.

We give some away, but we still must have 30 assorted bottles of the hard stuff in that cabinet, some of which is expensive and getting older all the time, plus the remains of a case of beer in the garage. I have a neighbor who's working on that case so it'll be gone soon. :-D

I think we'll just save 'em for post peak and trade 'em for whatever we may need since it'll be better than cash!
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby elroy » Wed 01 Mar 2006, 19:09:58

Too bad. The reason beer was so popular in pre-industrial times is the brewing process (heating) killed off germs so it was the safest drink around.
I only drink 1 or 2 beers every once in a while. Last time 2-3 weeks ago. But hey, good on ya.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby Antimatter » Thu 02 Mar 2006, 00:25:56

Congrats, have a beer on me! [smilie=occasion14.gif]
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby The_Virginian » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 00:01:23

I am runnining a test pilot.

One month with out alcohol, one Long month.

Not long ago I was down to one drink a day.....the No Alcohol policy Started March 1.

The only bright spot will be Purim...I will get stone drunk...but that dosen't count.

Even my sabbath table will have grape Juice instead of my favorite Merlot/Cabrenet mixes........AHHHHHHHHHH.

I feel emasculated.
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Re: I quit...

Unread postby jimk » Fri 03 Mar 2006, 00:40:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', '
')I feel emasculated.


This gets to an important point. The belief systems that we live by. The complicated rational systems worked out by science, religion, politics... these are important, but secondary or even tertiary. More fundamental are these images that we live by, like one's manhood is measured by daily consumption of intoxicants. Or some kind of pseudo-Darwinian individualist test of how brutally can one subdue one's neighbor. Then even deeper than that are the things we can't articulate, that we don't see clearly ourselves, but that drive us just that much more powerfully because of our blindness.

Here is a radical idea. Even these fundamental drives are not fixed features of our essential nature. These drives depend on our behavior and experience, just like our behavior and experience depends on the drives. It's like a chicken and egg situation. Such feedback loops don't change overnight, but they can change incrementally, they can evolve.

It takes real courage to change - to risk stepping outside the system of beliefs that we've been trained in. But it's also tremendously empowering.
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