[chris-h]

I would like to see if US people predict a hard landing as a result of more agressive culture (tv violence,lots of guns) or if i am wrong.

So please vote.

[gwmss15]

interesting results so far many more people to vote yet only 5

iam from australia i feel that australia will have a softer landing than the northern hemiphese countries as we dont have very high population dencity also australia doesnt have a strong gun culture so it will be alot harder to form small private armies that could form in the US

only 40 years ago very large numbers of people travelled by train and tram in the major citys so i dont feel it will be that hard to go back to this path

also there is a very strong level of enviornment awareness in the major population of australia and efforts in to energy conconservation and waste reduction have been qutie sucessfull.

also a lot of non urban people use alternative fuels in there farms and homes ie wind power to pump water solar energy to heat water and provide back up power to there machines on the farms

[Licho]

lol@ results Very very interesting, why is that?

[chris-h]

Very interesting.
At the time that i write this post 18 votes


85 % of USA residents predict HARD landing.
15 % of USA residents predict SOFT landing.

Outside USA

23 % of NON Usa residents predict HARD landing.
77 % of NON Usa residents predict SOFT landing.


More votes are needed please.

[Licho]

Could it be caused just by more driving and more apparent oil dependence in USA rather then by "cultural" differences?
If you have to drive to work each day and your family has 3 cars, "hard" might seem more likely to you than if you have 1 car in family and walk/mass transit to work..

[Kingcoal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Licho', 'C')ould it be caused just by more driving and more apparent oil dependence in USA rather then by "cultural" differences?
If you have to drive to work each day and your family has 3 cars, "hard" might seem more likely to you than if you have 1 car in family and walk/mass transit to work..

[gogota]

I have create a poll for hard and soft crash a month before. Most vote iit soft, but now most vote it hard.

The most important thing is analyse the situation using the event that is happening now and later. They will give you a better hint for your answer.

[Licho]

Kingcoal, yes, price of food will go up, but lower availiability? Agriculture is using just a tiny part of oil so does pesticide production. Change will be gradual, so that transportation will have time to adjust (for example to use elecitrc trains). And fertilizers are made without natural gas easilly, ng is just cheap source of hydrogen for the process, you can do it with little extra energy in thousands different ways...

[Kingcoal]

Now my optimistic side. On my way to work today I passed an old trolley station remade into a Hair Salon. This former station is in a small town outside of Allentown, PA which by no means is an urban setting. Most people in America outside of major cities have never seen an electric trolley, but they used to be the defacto mode of public transport for the average person. That was until the Auto companies conspired to put them out of business. In the northeast in particular, trolleys were all over rural areas between large towns and cities. In fact, a lot of the major roads were originally trolley routes which have long since been paved over.

Additionally, the US has a lot of freight rail which could also carry passengers. However, I look at SEPTA (http://septa.org) and their finding that electric train lines as the only ones cost effective enough to keep running.

We don't have much conventional oil in North America, but we have plenty of coal, which is used for about half our electric generation. If our roads and highways empty out due to very expensive fuel costs, they leave open a place to lay tracks. I've read that railroads are about 1/10th the cost of a highway in initial cost and even less for upkeep. I can't see something like this happening until the reality of permanently rising fuel prices is plainly accepted as fact.