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Canadian scientists want out of Darwin's 'rut'

Unread postby Armageddon » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 12:54:33

{title edited to reflect article by MQ}

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they are coming to their senses. The marvelous human body and this beautiful earth and universe created by pure ' chance' is so rediculous it isnt even funny.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Grimnir » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 12:57:22

That would be pretty ridiculous. Good thing no one is arguing that.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Grimnir » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 12:59:23

PS: Mods, could you move this thread to open discussion and edit the title to match the article: "Creation scientists want out....". Pretty key distinction, there.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Leanan » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:01:16

Agreed. The subject line for this post is misleading. Nine scientists and engineers signed a petition. That is hardly a groundswell. :roll:
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby J-Rod » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:02:56

Yeah I don't see what this really has to do with PO...
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Re: creation scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Windmills » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:21:07

Religious explanations for the natural world have been eroding for centuries, despite the best efforts of creation-minded individuals to convince us that the Earth is only a few thousand years old, is the center of the universe, and so forth. The origin of life on Earth is one of the few pieces of disputed territory left to them after a consistently losing record established since humans began to think for themselves.

Complexity frightens some people into retreating to the supernatural.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:26:37

"Chance" didn't create anything. All it did was provide the raw material, sort of like a hunk of marble was the raw material for Michaelangelo. In nature's case, the sculptor was the Principle of Least Action acting upon natural gradients.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Armageddon » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:45:27

the big bang theory is flawed also. Thats like blowing up a library and having the websters dictionary form out of it.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby MacG » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 13:52:56

Want to get out of a scientific theory? Simple. Just do as scientists always do: Design a better theory. Personally I would like to get out of the theory of general relativity. It restrict my choice for time-travels.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Zardoz » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 18:46:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'T')he marvelous human body and this beautiful earth and universe created by pure ' chance' is so rediculous it isnt even funny.


"I don't understand it, so I'll just throw up my hands and believe that somebody made it. It saves me so much tedious, tiring thinking.

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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 19:04:49

Perhaps the headline should have been

"Scientists are wanting out of Darwin's Theory in fear of research funding drying up due to "we create our own reality" administration".

However I would postulate that people who believe in intelligent design are the best evidence for there not being intelligent design.

:)

So, remind me, why did God make and bury all those dinosaur bones, without using the explanation "because he moves in mysterious ways".
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby bobcousins » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 19:52:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', 'S')o, remind me, why did God make and bury all those dinosaur bones, without using the explanation "because he moves in mysterious ways".


Another Biblical mis-translation, God really is Dog.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Bobbotov » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 21:12:43

The Judeo-Christian creation myth is only one of hundreds of creation myths created by just about every tribe and civilization since time began. Christianity has a history of railing against rational thought as witnessed by Galileo, the flat earth, age of the earth, etc. It has also either exterminated many of the tribes and civilizations that cultivated other creation myths or converted them. The final frontier for them is to either exterminate or convert scientists who foster the Darwinian theory. However, it will be a hot day in heaven when the Vatican launches a space ship, finds a cure for cancer. or comes up with a reasonable energy source for our collective future.

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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby rogerhb » Sun 26 Feb 2006, 22:43:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bobbotov', 'H')owever, it will be a hot day in heaven when the Vatican launches a space ship, finds a cure for cancer. or comes up with a reasonable energy source for our collective future.


Ironically, we could actually do without those three;

(a) space ship - waste of time and energy
(b) cure for cancer - we're over-populated
(c) energy - do what we did for the last few thousand years upto the industrial age
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Specop_007 » Mon 27 Feb 2006, 00:48:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'A')greed. The subject line for this post is misleading. Nine scientists and engineers signed a petition. That is hardly a groundswell. :roll:


That seems to be all it takes for the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Idiot Brigade. :oops:
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 27 Feb 2006, 01:29:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'A')greed. The subject line for this post is misleading. Nine scientists and engineers signed a petition. That is hardly a groundswell. :roll:


That seems to be all it takes for the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Idiot Brigade. :oops:


Why couldn't 911 Commission explain the WTC7 collapse, Spec?
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Specop_007 » Mon 27 Feb 2006, 02:08:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'A')greed. The subject line for this post is misleading. Nine scientists and engineers signed a petition. That is hardly a groundswell. :roll:


That seems to be all it takes for the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory Idiot Brigade. :oops:


Why couldn't 911 Commission explain the WTC7 collapse, Spec?


Because the Lizard Kings running the computers dont have thumbs, therefore couldnt enter the data with spaces as was proper. :roll:

Why is it first it was a conpsiracy because airliners were hijacked. Then it became a conspiracy becuase of flight restrictions windows imposed at that time. Then it became a conspiracy theory because the buildings collapsed. Then it became a conspiracy because the fire fighters said "pull it". Then it became a conspiracy because #7 collapsed.

Gee, lets make a big list and go down one at a time. And as each point becomes covered we can just move on to the next one. I mean hell, eventually we'll get to SOMETHING thats a conspiracy. Hell, in actuality its a conspiracy because of the type of plane that was hijacked. Bet that next on the list isnt it? Once #7 is disporved, you guys will move on to the model number of the planes right?

:roll:

Or, maybe...JUST MAYBE, not every event is reproducable without accurate information. And such information is absolutely impossible to obtain in isolated unplanned events such as a gigantic goddamned plane slamming into a building and the subsequent collapse around the #7 buildings? No no, thats no fun. Lets be wiggy tinfoil hat wearing people and make up ridiculous shit to parade around to show that everything is a conspiracy theory. Yeah, thats alot more fun.

And you wonder why all of about 1000 people in the country think theres some big conspiracy theory. Your a minority. So keep asking questions and keep posting those "factual" papers. I gaurentee you with 100% certainty, its going NOWHERE. The 9/11 collapse, the WHOLE ISSUE, is DEAD.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby dissimulo » Mon 27 Feb 2006, 02:16:31

Wow - this thread has evolved considerably, but I believe natural selection will prove that this line of evolution is yet another dead end.
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Re: scientists are wanting out of darwins ' theory'

Unread postby Zentric » Mon 27 Feb 2006, 02:16:43

More matter and less art, there, Specky. Again, what is your answer to Carlhole's question?

And is it consistent with what you see here ...

http://www.911research.com/wtc/evidence ... _7_cbs.mpg

We've heard your endless tirades on the subject. So, come on, Specky, it's your time to shine...
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