[BabyPeanut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones

August 10, 2005

Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005

The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.

Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

(link)

American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.

[VinceG]

Ofcourse it was a false alarm...

If everything that was predicted by members of this forum had really happened, most of us would have died from bird flue already, Charleston had been nuked causing a global nuclear warefare, oil would sell at 1000 dollars a barrel and George Bush finally admitted he really is an alien from the planet Krypton...

Everyday, we see prophetic members of this forum foretelling us instant catastrophic events that are bound to happen in the next couple of days / weeks / months...in reality, virtually NONE of these events ever happen...

You see, the world as we speak of it through peakoil.com does not always exactly represent reality.

In this specific case, a discharged 4 star general does not equal global nucear pandemonium...

It would be nice if in the future all members of this forum would discuss REALISTIC figures, facts and events, without drawing UNREALISTIC expectations of our future...

[pedalling_faster]

this looks like a dramatization of someone's worst fear.

however, it is real.

from
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

and, just for the heck of it, i mirrored it at
http://www.geocities.com/pedalling_fast ... rogram.pdf

and it is courtesy of Nat & Robert Parry at ~
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2006/022106a.html

"Labor Camps

There also was another little-noticed item posted at the U.S. Army Web site, about the Pentagon’s Civilian Inmate Labor Program. This program “provides Army policy and guidance for establishing civilian inmate labor programs and civilian prison camps on Army installations.”

The Army document, first drafted in 1997, underwent a “rapid action revision” on Jan. 14, 2005. The revision provides a “template for developing agreements” between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations."

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'T')he revision provides a “template for developing agreements” between the Army and corrections facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations."

[Ludi]

I think debtor's prisons and workhouses will make a big comeback. Prison labor is already very common in the US. I remember years ago people used to protest Chinese goods because they were made with prison labor.

[MD]

I have bad news for you.

The only reason we have been able to enjoy intellectual pursuits and the near disappearance of institutional "inhumanity to man" in the "first world" has been cheap energy.

The ugly historical norms will very soon reappear.

"sir, may I please have more?"

[Ludi]

Maybe we can somehow skip over that and revive the relative egalitarianism of prehistorical societies...

(by suggesting this I reveal how evil I am, as evil as Pol Pot)

[OneLoneClone]

But the prison labor workforce looks so happy, check it, It all looks so artsy and craftsy

"When the prisoners work, so does the system"
- Unicor: About Us

[gary_malcolm]

As a debtor currently spending 80% of my salary paying down the mountain (looks like I'm free in August!) this scare the bejeezus out of me.

Doomerosity +2

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[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gary_malcolm', 'A')s a debtor currently spending 80% of my salary paying down the mountain (looks like I'm free in August!) this scare the bejeezus out of me.
G

[SinisterBlueCat]

debt or no, it does not matter. if you are not sufficiently loyal, you will find yourself in a new set of digs in a hurry.

[Dreamtwister]

did you think those KB&R labour camps were just for decoration?

[PrairieMule]

Reminds me of a old cartoon from Mr.Boffo. 2 guys are slaving away with pick axes in Hell. Demons are cracking whips at the masses, flames everywhere.

Old timer:We always have our secret weapon.
New guy:What is it?
Old Timer:Sarcasm.

[Carlhole]

i-Newswire

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('source', 'D')uluth, MN ( i-Newswire ) February 28, 2006 -- A society of experts and scholars has now joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of videos that are being held by the Department of Defense, which are essential to understanding events at the Pentagon that transpired on September 9, 2001. Scholars for 9/11 Truth, which is dedicated to exposing falsehoods and establishing truths about the events of 9/11, has gone beyond Judicial Watch by calling for the release of other films and evidence that, its officers maintain, are essential to understanding 9/11.

"It is outrageous that the government is withholding this vital information", said James H. Fetzer, founder and co-chair of the society. "This concerns one of the monstrous events of our time and deserves to be in the public domain." The group, whose members include such prominent figures as David Ray Griffin, Morgan Reynolds, John McMurtry, Wayne Madsen, Robert Bowman, Webster Tarpley, and Andreas von Buelow, has been speaking out against what its own research suggests has been complicity by elements of the administration in the crime.

They are calling for immediate release of the full Pentagon surveillance tape as well as video tapes seized by FBI agents minutes after the Pentagon hit; a complete inventory of the plane wreckage and debris from Flights 11, 77, 93, 175 or any other aircraft that crashed or was destroyed on 11 September 2001, including, but not limited to their location ( whether warehoused or otherwise ), catalog of photographs and videotapes taken of any items from the planes, and results of all tests and examinations conducted concerning any of these items...

[MicroHydro]

Absurd. if anything is released, it would be worthless. After 4.5 years, the tapes could have been altered to show the Starship Enterprise crashing into the Pentagon. Ever heard of "chain of custody"?

[Zardoz]

The Energy Bulletin site posted a story today, written by a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force, that was run last September by the "Joint Force Quarterly".

Joint Force Quarterly is published by the National Defense University Press for the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. JFQ is the Chairman's flagship joint military and security studies journal designed to inform members of the U.S. Armed Forces, allies, and other partners on joint and integrated operations; national security policy and strategy; efforts to combat terrorism; homeland security; and developments in training and joint professional military education to transform America's military and security apparatus to better meet tomorrow's challenges while protecting freedom today.

Here's the JFQ site:

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Press/NDUPress_JFQ_List.htm


Here's the story on Energy Bulletin:

http://www.energybulletin.net/13461.html


And here's the original PDF version of the story:

http://www.ndu.edu/inss/Press/jfq_pages ... win_04.pdf

A couple of quotes:

"The current world energy situation poses a national threat unparalleled in 225 years."

"Current energy strategy assumes that this country can meet its oil needs by managing the oil-producing coun­tries diplomatically and militarily. However, this thinking overestimates the available oil supply, ignores grow­ing instability in the oil-producing countries, and understates the military costs of preserving access."


Maybe somebody should read this story to Dubya...

[rogerhb]

Yet another Manhatten Project? You could call 911 al-Qaida's Manhatten Project.

[NeoPeasant]

Holy crap the Pentagon is citing Kunstler's "Long Emergency"

[Aimrehtopyh]

Excellent find, I love the bit about $1.27 per gallon hidden cost from 1991-2004.

A few things that I think he could have included would be:
The cost of tanker escorts and other "at-sea" security. say $50B
A fair percentage of the economic loss from traffic fatalities. $500B (my number)
The erosion of Americas political credibility and her ability to get support from foreign militaries (priceless). $1Trillion is a nice round number.
Productivity loss from PO paranoids being sleep deprived. $50B
Misplaced spending on SUVs, suburban subdivisions, and freeways based on inaccurate assumptions about the true cost of fuel (say 5% of GDP during that period). $10Trillion
Trade imbalance supported and encouraged by cheap fuel. $500B

Total:$12.1 Trillion or an additional $7 per gallon. Sounds like the europeans are right on track with their pricing.

[bart]

Another paper from the military - the US Army War College:

http://energybulletin.net/13481.html

And while we're on a military binge, here's a presentation that Amory Lovins gave to a War Seminar at John Hopkins:
link

Here are notes to the talk in PDF.

I'd be interested in what y'all think of this material.

It seems to me that some of the best thinking on energy is coming from the military/intelligence community. The Eugene Register-Guard describes the odd alliance beginning to emerge between the national security people and environmentalists:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou wouldn't have thought it possible: a former director of the Central Intelligence Agency drawing a standing ovation from a room full of left-leaning environmentalists right here in Eugene.

But that's exactly what happened at the University of Oregon's Public Interest Environmental Law Conference Saturday afternoon as R. James Woolsey - the nation's chief "spook" under President Bill Clinton from 1993-1995 - spoke passionately about the need to reduce America's dependence on foreign oil.

"There is a moral dimension to this," Woolsey said. "We should be good custodians of the Earth.

And if that means creating an unlikely alliance between national security hawks, American farmers, Christian evangelicals, liberal do-gooders and tree-hugging environmentalists, Woolsey said, that's just fine with him.

"All these groups are starting to come around on this set of issues," he said.
Eugene Register-Guard