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Re: Greetings

Unread postby waegari » Sun 19 Feb 2006, 19:10:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Magus', ' ') I no longer even see myself as an American, as I now despise pretty much everything this country now stands for.



First off, welcome to the site, welcome to the land of truth, and secondly, as a citizen from the rest of the world I would really like to reassure you as an American: we as humans brought this about together, and we're all in this together, wherever we are in the world. And I would suppose, most of us, would much love anyone anywhere in the world get hold of one of those handy machines we call computers, if only to get informed and be warned about the peak oil phenomenon. But, a US computer as much as any Japanese or Korean manufactured computer needs about 10 times its own weight in oil to get produced.

So whatever any US administration may have done wrong, peak oil goes beyond such responsibility. Or, if anywhere, it lies with all those in politics worldwide who dismissed Limits to Growth in the early 1970's, at least.

And on another note, being a news editor here, I even envy you, Americans, for the much greater amount of peak oil awareness I encounter in media reports than I would in, at least, the Netherlands and Germany. So, in that sense, you're even lucky.

Still, yes, peak oil awareness isn't easy, but it does give a sense of direction, a standard for separating chaff from wheat in one's life, and one even doesn't get upset too much about things that would normally be absolutely annoying, delayed trains for instance.
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Re: Greetings

Unread postby MicroHydro » Sun 19 Feb 2006, 20:56:51

As Waegari pointed out, for those of us who are older and were well informed way back when, this overshoot catastrophe (of which Peak Oil is only one part) has been a slow motion train wreck in plain sight for at least since 1970. The world elite debated this problem during the 1970s and the "deny and do nothing" faction won out. So it is a species failure. Humanity will not inherit the stars, and does not deserve to anyway. We are just stupid monkeys who managed to consume and poison much of the biosphere that made our lives possible in the first place.

The failure was global, but survival (or not) will depend on local matters. Just keep on the bicycle and prepare yourself for interesting times.
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Re: Greetings

Unread postby Magus » Mon 20 Feb 2006, 03:18:34

I understand what you're saying, about how the blame for the mess we are in today lies with us all, and I'm inclined to agree with you.

However, I still believe a great share of the responsiblity falls on us Americans, as we here possess the great capacity to change on the world, yet we have consistantly prove that we do not deserve that power.

As a wise man once said, "With great power, comes great responsibility," and of responsibility, the human race has shown very little. There is so much good that humanity could do for this world, more than any species this planet has ever produced. Until we understand that we are all part of this mystery we call the universe, and not the center of it, there will be nothing but pain and loss.

My greatest hope is that humanity will finally learn this fact...after we are forced to deal with the conseqences of our selfish actions. That seems to be the only way we ever really learn.
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Re: Greetings

Unread postby seahorse2 » Mon 20 Feb 2006, 16:25:37

Hi Magus,

I choked on the "red pill" at first, but after the choking fit, after I was able to open my eyes for the first time, things are better than before. Nice to see a neighbor posting here. There is another member, one of the best, "Pops" also from Missouri.
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Into the melee

Unread postby BKWorldEnergy » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 00:47:43

Greetings everyone.

I was wandering around the web looking for figures on an article I was writing when lo and behold I find this site, with a picture of Matt Simmons on it and everything. Having met Matt on several ocassions, naturally I was intrigued.

I am here to learn. I think I know a few things, at least some things I consider to have come from fairly reliable sources. I am privy to information some people do not get to ask, or think to ask when given a chance, as well as some things people do not get to tell or think to tell when given a similar opportunity.

I knew nothing of the industry 2 years ago, and now find myself in the middle of it with a broad but shallow understanding of many apects of the production of hydrocarbon, windfarming, IGCC and all manner of things to which I was oblivious until only recently.

But no one can know everything about all aspects of powering the world. That's just how it goes. I can however, give it a good shot.

So hello to everyone, and I'll see you on the boards...
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Re: Into the melee

Unread postby MonteQuest » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 01:10:14

Greetings!

Spend some time reading the forums first, I suggest. We have been busy little bees debating most all of the aspects here. Also our Code of Conduct, then jump right in! :-D

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Re: Into the melee

Unread postby BKWorldEnergy » Tue 21 Feb 2006, 01:24:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'G')reetings!

Spend some time reading the forums first, I suggest. We have been busy little bees debating most all of the aspects here. Also our Code of Conduct, then jump right in! :-D

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Aye aye captain.

And if you are interested in more fodder for the cannons, take a look at my own personal favorite forum for energy idea exchange, as it were:

www.worldenergysource.com

It is interesting industry perspective on various things, written by top executives, goverment officials, heads of state and various other decision maker types.
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future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby caliginousface » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 13:55:18

hey all, i'm new, and probably should've posted this in the general section.


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well, my name is ru (kanga-ru just so you know :) ) i'm 19 and an environmental studies student san jose state, and just transferred here this semester. i was at embry riddle aeronautical university last fall and summer, and had wondered about oil for some time during, and before my stint at embry riddle.

pretty much i'm down with aviation, i fly planes and am in the process of attaining my commercial certificate. though i tend to be more of an environmentally centered person with my views (i know it's weird that i fly things that spew out combusted low lead fuel) so it works out pretty weird. well i decided to transfer because the cost of the school, and the major. i figured a major in another topic would make me a litle more well rounded. so far it looks promising!

what bothers me to a good extent is peak oil, my career (well, hopefully soon to be) is centered around the combustion of fuel, but then so is life, for now. i can't help but fantasize about total world economy crumbling and hard life ahead. my parents, and most of my friends, don't think there is a problem, but i can't help but stress there IS!

i decided to join in hopes of getting more doom and gloom perspectives, haha, and just to learn more from as views as i can. with that, i'm off!


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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby Karl » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 15:06:23

The only thing I can say is that already the airlines are broken business models. Running on charity on cheap labour anything weight critical is being ditched. (not long and the seats will be thrown - military style benches... if they could get away with it)

Each dollar rise in the price of oil tightens the screws one more turn. Another 40 -50% rise in the price of oil and we will back to goverment flag carriers plying essential routes.

Not a long term term career today I'm afraid, I'd reckon a terminal nose dive within a decade.
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby caliginousface » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 15:10:59

yeah well i always was the one who said to other pilots at my school "what happens when it gets too expensive to fly?" they, and my parents would say something along the lines of "people have to fly," they don't want to, can't, or won't see its much deeper than that.

i was hoping to do some hot air ballooning this summer, hopefully at can get one dream "out of the way".
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Re: New members- Tell us about yourselves

Unread postby Grautr » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 15:15:34

Hi,
My name is Neal and I'm a 36 year old Englishman living in the Netherlands. My hobbies include gardening, my chickens and slinging. I'm mostly lurking here but will post when something interesting comes up.
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby BlisteredWhippet » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 17:32:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('caliginousface', 'y')eah well i always was the one who said to other pilots at my school "what happens when it gets too expensive to fly?" they, and my parents would say something along the lines of "people have to fly," they don't want to, can't, or won't see its much deeper than that.

i was hoping to do some hot air ballooning this summer, hopefully at can get one dream "out of the way".


I was thinking lately that the age of the airship may once again rise... no pun intended.

I was imagining a small balloon project powered by a downdraft gasifier. Dangerous ideas for a non-physicist, to be sure. :)
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby LadyRuby » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 17:51:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('caliginousface', 'i')'m 19 and an environmental studies student san jose state, and just transferred here this semester. ...
i decided to join in hopes of getting more doom and gloom perspectives, haha, and just to learn more from as views as i can. with that, i'm off!


If you are looking for gloom and doom perspectives you'll probably find more than you bargained for here.

Seriously, though, my personal scenario is that we'll have some type of collapse (fast or slow, I don't know...). This could be from the dollar/economy, or from energy, or from both. If this happens it would cause a lot of hardship but hopefully "wisen" people up too. So hopefully some good will come out of it.

Focusing on environmental studies rather than flying airplanes seems like a very good idea to me. There have been other threads about careers that you might want to check out (not sure but may be in planning for the future forum).

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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby jato » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 18:34:45

Welcome.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') was at embry riddle aeronautical university last fall and summer


I came real close to going there too. I got my Private Pilot's cert (ASEL) when I was 18. I wound up getting into law enforcement because I decided not to go to college (I hated high school).

We have several pilots here on the board. Most notable is Airlinepilot.

I found out about Peak Oil when I was getting ready to invest in a CFII cert. Discovering Peak Oil changed all of that. In hindsight, I am sure glad I didn't get into the aviation career.
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby caliginousface » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 19:43:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jato', 'W')elcome.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') was at embry riddle aeronautical university last fall and summer


I came real close to going there too. I got my Private Pilot's cert (ASEL) when I was 18. I wound up getting into law enforcement because I decided not to go to college (I hated high school).

We have several pilots here on the board. Most notable is Airlinepilot.

I found out about Peak Oil when I was getting ready to invest in a CFII cert. Discovering Peak Oil changed all of that. In hindsight, I am sure glad I didn't get into the aviation career.


yeah well those guys suckered me in with all their fluff about airlines loving them, i should've listened to other pilots when they said not to go.

thats crazy that peak oil made you change your mind, i'm still pursuing aviation, i don't know how far i will go, but i'm working on my commercial right now and hopefully CFI, and hot air addon by this summer. but as time goes on i guess we'll see how much of the money my parents invested me is going to pay off.

i decided to take up environmental studies because of quite a few energy and impact issues, but i'm not sure it will lead me to a career in the field.

if flying meets this environmental stuff, maybe i can pilot the greenpeace hot air balloon?! :) 8)
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 21:38:29

Hi Kanga Ru....you do realise that the word "Kangaroo" is Australian Aboriginal for "I don't know"...?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('caliginousface', 'h')ey all, i'm new, and probably should've posted this in the general section.


{Voila ...Easily taken care of! :) - TheTurtle}

well, my name is ru (kanga-ru just so you know :) ) i'm 19 and an environmental studies student san jose state, and just transferred here this semester. i was at embry riddle aeronautical university last fall and summer, and had wondered about oil for some time during, and before my stint at embry riddle.

pretty much i'm down with aviation, i fly planes and am in the process of attaining my commercial certificate.


Hmm, now that will prove useful when we have no ability to fuel up planes.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ') though i tend to be more of an environmentally centered person with my views (i know it's weird that i fly things that spew out combusted low lead fuel) so it works out pretty weird. well i decided to transfer because the cost of the school, and the major. i figured a major in another topic would make me a litle more well rounded. so far it looks promising!


A "well-rounded major" sounds like a overweight Army staffer. I assume you're here to as find out what we think you ought to study? There's several study options, but as most of them a predictated on the idea of eternally annoying optimism, you might find 'em a challenge.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'w')hat bothers me to a good extent is peak oil, my career (well, hopefully soon to be) is centered around the combustion of fuel, but then so is life, for now. i can't help but fantasize about total world economy crumbling and hard life ahead. my parents, and most of my friends, don't think there is a problem, but i can't help but stress there IS!


You're preachin' to the choir, Kanga.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'i') decided to join in hopes of getting more doom and gloom perspectives, haha, and just to learn more from as views as i can. with that, i'm off!


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I'll avoid the puns about "that explains the smell"; but if you want Doom & Gloom, welcome to the Department Of Doom and Gloom.

http://www.despair.com The Cure For Hope is a good start - or, as he's changed his tag-line recently: the RELENTLESS pursuit of dejection. Ahhh, I feel better already!!!

If you;re determined to take on a career in flying, perhaps this is for you. Or perhaps this one.

In all honesty, I'd suggest sniffing around the areas of "self-presevation" in terms of your future study.

Avoid subjects like "Panic 101" or "Blind Panic 201", but "The End Of The World As We Know It 105" is a good starting point. "Neo Darwinism As Good Business Practice 113" need not be taken, unless you have a psychotic personality and no ethics. If you do, there's a very good chance you stand to Make It Big out of Peak Oil, and will become one of our Feudal Overlords for us Micro-serfs.

"Cruelty 401" and "Cruelty Without Remorse 402" is only available after you've completed "Torture 205" and "Vindictiveness 313". "Vindictiveness 313 and 314" have a pre-requisite of "Treachery 210" or "Quisling 211", which itself needs a good pass in "Barbarity 190" . It's a good idea if you're going to do "Barbarity 190" to choose "Intimidation 115" before-hand.

"Dictator 530", "Hitler 531", "Stalin 535" and "Bloodthirsty Deranged Tyrant 570" are only available as Post-grad courses. Admissions to "Anti-Christ 703" have closed and in any case, you will need to give written (in blood) submissions to Rupert Murdoch for consideration of acceptance into the course, anyway. Oh, and there's a waiting list, too, for this one, so don't be surprised if you don't have the entry qualifications.

Past successful candidates for "Anti-Christ 703" (who admittedly proved disappointing once they had completed their studies) seem to have enrolled in "Moloch 602", "Hannibal Lecter 608" or "Harkonnen 603" (all only open to Post-Grads) as is "Ghenghis Khan Wuz A Wimp 607". "Attila The Hun 611" has been discontinued.

"Hannibal Lecter 608" is for the more refined slaughterer, and please note: you will need to show impeccable manners and an intimate knowledge of which piece of obscure classical piano music goes well with what sharp knife.

Thus a demonstrated profound knowledge of the Chopin Preludes is an advantage during your admissions process, implying that chainsaws, baseball bats and garrotts are right out. While this may seems as being somewhat of a cramp on one's style, the after-dinner conversation is always witty amongst one's fellow students, so bear with it. Bye The Way, you will be ineligable for "Hannibal Lecter 608" if you have completed "Alphonse Capone 160", "Blind Homocidal Rage 119" or "Berserk 143"


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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby drew » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 22:40:19

Don't be a pilot, even though it is a cool job. No jet A, no 100 ll, no job.

I like planes a lot, but man, what an expensive hobby. (I'll never own one)

When I first saw your user, I thought it said 'Caligula face' which is a more fun name than "caliginousface' What the hell is a 'caliginious face' anyways?

Check out Caligula some time, if you don't know what I am talking about, he was a pretty nutty guy!

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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby caliginousface » Sun 05 Mar 2006, 23:39:20

alright i'm going to have to clarify my name, my name is ru (like kanga-ru) except my full name is ruwan, but ru's been with me since the middle school years.






and about the pending loss of supply of aircraft fuels...i have to pursue it right now, my parents will tear me a new one if don't continue. i will end up eating out of the shitter i'm sure, but ah well.
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Re: New members- Tell us about yourselves

Unread postby Aimrehtopyh » Wed 08 Mar 2006, 14:11:46

I'm a 29 year old from central Minnesota, petroleum depletion has been a "splinter in my mind" as long as I can remember. Some guy on totse.com linked to lifeaftertheoilcrash.net about two and half years ago. This was just a few months before my twin sons were born, I don't sleep very well anymore.

Being a child of the cold war and a professed Y2K paranoid I immediately resolved to go down swinging. Last year things fell together for once, my wife and I bought a house and I started going to college. My original aim was to get some kind of energy engineering degree in order to capitalise on the predicament. As it turns out Energy Engineering per se is a doctorate level degree in the very few places it's offered and I won't be able to get ANY kind of engineering degree without relocating or commuting long distances.

After all that late-night research, my vision of the future that PO gives us is pretty complex. A picture is worth a thousand words: http://tinyurl.com/zw9a3 pretty much sums it up.

As any veteran Peak Oiler knows, the obsession comes in waves over a period of months or years. Two bits of news renewed my interest and prompted me to finally start posting here. #1 Was Deffeyes' announcement of a rock solid peak date. #2 Was the whisperings on the news about the Iranian Oil Bourse, which led me to this: http://tinyurl.com/od5tp.

I'm an inverterate procrastinator so the realization that crunch-time had possibly been entered propted me to register here.
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Re: future life, careers, and peak oil (psst, i'm new!)

Unread postby jato » Fri 10 Mar 2006, 13:03:22

Big Bear California circa Winter 1994. I am on the right. The plane is a club PA28-181.

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