[sol]

(Edited to change the title to something a little less...star trekie)


Mmmm....

After reading a post on this board some time ago about comet/asteroid and the electric universe it got me thinking.

After all the evidence against the "dirtysnow ball" theory, it just slaps you in the face that Highly - Neg charged comets moving through a posititivley charged plasma sheath would do what were are observing.

Mmmm A solid body becoming negatively charged away from the sun and "glowing" as it approaches the Sun or sometime just goes "BANG", + & -, matter/antimatter???

Did the ancients know about this and were leaving us a message i.e. this is a great power source or this is extremely dangerous!!! Fuck with it and you'll cause cataclysmic events and destroy yourselves?

Throws it open doesn’t it, could be that paradigm change were looking for, to stop and relies the BIG picture and get along or just wait for 2012 for a little lightning show of our own here on earth.

I remember the poster of the original thread always alluding to "something" bigger than peak oil but would never say exactly what, seems this is a good candidate. No wonder the ancients took such great interest in timing celestial events.

Cool LINK

Sol

[0mar]

We make nanograms (if that) of anti-matter each year at tremendous cost. Matter/Antimatter is not feasible now or in the forseeable future. There are too many hurdles to overcome, least of which is how to confine antimatter.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sol', 'M')mmm....

I remember the poster of the original thread always alluding to "something" bigger than peak oil but would never say exactly what, seems this is a good candidate. No wonder the ancients took such great interest in timing celestial events.

Cool LINK

Sol

[sol]

If all the evidence now pointing to the electric universe the old Telsa's work should be restarted immediately, priority #1!!!

Link HERE

Looks like we got led up the garden path with the early (circa 1900) capitalist bullshit

This just makes some many things fit on so many levels from ancient 'monuments" (how did they lift those 200 tonne precision cut stones into place?) to observed phenomena of electric comets and planets.

Antimatter is not something you make it comes from outside our local heliopause, in the form of comets, highly negatively charged rocks! Asteroids have been inside the heliopause for longer and have lost their charge, so now there just rocks!

For evidence of matter/antimatter collisions just check out pics of shoemaker levy9 and temple 1 impact...very energetic!!! This is what would be predicted to happen if they could not equalize their charges fast enough.

I for one would love to see the world's best brains come up with what Tesla already knew about "We live in an electric universe" we just need to learn to "tap" into it. He had devices and tested them successfully then the big boys stepped in and that was the end if that.

If this theory holds true then were going about the whole "cold fusion" thing arse about face. A cathode magnetically levitated above the earth and made to receive billions of amperes will "glow" much like our local cathode the "sun", steer one of the resulting "Birkeland current" thru a coil and whammo electricity!! Usable thru today’s infrastructure?

I feel like peak oil, once the facts can no longer be explained away and this paradigm takes hold then and only then shall we move forward. To me this sound much more plausible than the current alternatives.

Sol

[smallpoxgirl]

Why would you need to use matter/anti-matter to make energy? You can just hook your warp drive up to your replicator and make all the light sweed crude you want.

Then again maybe you can trade your Spock ears to somebody for a lump of coal.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')fter reading a post on this board some time ago about comet/asteroid and the electric universe it got me thinking.

After all the evidence against the "dirtysnow ball" theory, it just slaps you in the face that Highly - Neg charged comets moving through a posititivley charged plasma sheath would do what were are observing.

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ntimatter is not something you make it comes from outside our local heliopause, in the form of comets, highly negatively charged rocks! Asteroids have been inside the heliopause for longer and have lost their charge, so now there just rocks!

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sol', '
')Mmmm A solid body becoming negatively charged away from the sun and "glowing" as it approaches the Sun or sometime just goes "BANG", + & -, matter/antimatter???

[sol]

So what then does the evidence point too then?

Comets take turns into going round the sun from the Oort cloud? and there's no charge separation in space?

Tesla had a grand idea and our capitalist paradigm put paid to that, what does the military know?

Seems to me if they prove the universe is electric then Tesla's work stands up to be acceptable.

this paradigm is going down the shiter so we better find something different!!!

As an armchair academic this "fits", lets test it and find out 100% either way.

Sol

[backstop]

Sol -

As the subject of this thread is theoretical speculation, and not an energy technology, the thread has shifted to the Open Discussion Forum.

Regards,

Backstop

[Leanan]

It must be real. I saw it on Star Trek!

[0mar]

Sol, are you looking at a physics book and picking out scientific terms at random and putting them into a barely cohesive sentence?

[sol]

Ever wondered why the "scientists" can't explain phenomena about our observable universe and indeed solar system. Well this theory fit neatly in place for nearly all the unexplained phenomena.

Here are some links laying out the theory, the first one is good introduction without too much tech talk.

The Electric cosmos

Some photographic evidence of our plasma universe

Thunderbolts Index

NASA experimented with tethered satellite it worked of sorts, they were expecting 5kv and .5 amps, what they got was a "neon" sign a couple of miles long!!! a few more volts and amps than they expected and it kept glowing for quite awhile!!!

Tethered satellite check out the width of the tether and then on the picture page the broken tether and closest approach pictures!!! If you then look at there possible uses... well Tesla and his compadres already had most of it worked out it seems and were written of as whackos by "the mainstream" scientists at the time...Mmmm images of M.King.Hubbert spring to mind.

This is star trek stuff, very real though, no warp drives, replicators and the like, but once we understand that the universe is electric and not gravitational things will fall into place. As long as we have a stable world to be able to scientifically explore this new paradigm with out blowing ourselves up first.

If the current paradigm persists while they develop something along these lines and the question is asked "how can we make money on something as free as unlimited energy from space" then we'll shoot ourselves in the foot before we even start.

We need to grow up to be able to join the "higher intelligence" we now is "out there", we are still just adolescents and the adults will not let us play if we don't work our shit out and get responsible.


Sol

[Dezakin]

Okay folks, is he a troll or retarted?

[sol]

That’s a little condescending there champ!

There are too many loose ends and “made up” non substantiated theories in how the gravitational model we now have works.

What did you learn about the 4th state of matter in school? Bet ya it was close to zilch.

If you've always been interested in astronomy, then take the time to have a little exploration session of your own, if not then nothing to see here move along folks.

As someone once said:

"Why should you think about fundamental things, especially at the level of assumptions? Isn't it ridiculous to examine something that no one ever questions? Historically, even higher level assumptions are rarely questioned. According to Thomas Kuhn, only when a replacement paradigm can explain things in a better way, does a thinking revolution occur. Rejecting a fundamental assumption is much more revolutionary than Kuhn's "paradigm shift." There are many reasons why you should test the fundamental assumption. Every time you encounter a great cosmic or solar system mystery --- such as the missing mass of the universe or moons around asteroids -- ask yourself this:"

"Is there a simple idea at the level of a fundamental assumption that solves this problem in a simple non complicated (read non mathematical) way? Think about it!"

"If you do start thinking about the fundamental assumption, I suggest keeping it to yourself. There is nothing more foolish sounding than trying to explain the fundamental assumption to people who have been trained all of their lives to accept it (by faith) without talking about it. "

Sol

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('sol', '
')There are too many loose ends and “made up” non substantiated theories in how the gravitational model we now have works.

[sol]

Ahhh fugedaboutit

wont help anway, well it will just need to change y/our paradigm and except the evidence.

How are there volcanoes and lightning on other moons and planets?

Were are the missing Nuetrinos from the sun?

Were do gamma ray burst come from?

What stops our solar system and indeed the galaxys from flying apart?

Why are there arauora?

Why to comets glow in X-rays when its just ice sublimating?

Why are some of the most distant and old quasars and pulsars in front of nearby galaxies?

So on and so forth.

Sol

[Dezakin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ow are there volcanoes and lightning on other moons and planets?

[sol]

OK ok, I’ll bite

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Why are there aurora?

I wasn't aware this was a mystery to anyone[/sup]

No mystery why, just why we haven’t yet worked out how to harness the awesome power of a million odd amperes and FL of volts, Mmm...ahh now I gotcha, maybe its those different flavored oscillating neutrinos, you know red for strawberry, green for spearmint etc...

[sup]How are there volcanoes and lightning on other moons and planets?

I'm sorry, why is this a mystery to you? [/sup]

And just ignore the obvious electrical (plasma) interaction of Io's "volcanoes" and Jupiter, and why there is increased activity when a comet is close by?

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Why are some of the most distant and old quasars and pulsars in front of nearby galaxies?

Don’t know where you got this ridiculous idea.[/sup]

Let ya fingers do the walking Quasars in front of galaxy and this one as well

[sol]

Mmm....

It's unclear how such lightning storms originate, but scientists think it might be related to the planet's warm interior.?

1000 times more powerful than earths lightning



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It's more than clear if saturn is now interacting electricaly with another body.