[PenultimateManStanding]

I saw that phrase today summing up a scepticism about plans to survive a collapse of the system. Consider the worst case scenarios: chaos and violence escalate, markets fail and cease operating as the US government and military are unable to contain the factional bloodshed emerging globallly. The stores are empty with no more commerce moving, we're on our own. Famine sets in and murder is epidemic as people freak. Provisions are fought for and violence is everywhere. The smell of food is a red flag. So how could one survive this? Alot of luck, maybe.

[Jake_old]

I have my new spectacles today, I can see anyone coming and also have a set of contact lenses to disguise the fact that I look clever. Thus I can avoid the fascist regimes that are around.

I can make stuff and get people drunk for dead cheap, I'm a hero for that.

I then manage to get a small holding and go hunting with my gun

Survivalist fantasies, aahhh

[PrairieMule]

Well, I tend to be on the fence on if this will go to a major survial scenerio or we get just start acting like europeans(little cars, nuclear energy, get use to $6 a gallon).

I do have something of a plan that involves isolated land and cattle. I do not however dream of being some sort of Warlord or Gun toting enforcer telling suburbanites "I told you so!". Instead if it goes down that way I "hope" I can shelter, protect, feed, and offer hope to a few others.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm talking about the total meltdown thing, PM. I can imagine it being very different in different places, location is a big factor. It's not hard to be pessimistic about my local area. Around here we could get warlords searching houses for goods to confiscate. I'm hoping for employment as an agriculturalist for the local chief, some kind of supervising and planning thing.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'m talking about the total meltdown thing, PM. I can imagine it being very different in different places, location is a big factor. It's not hard to be pessimistic about my local area. Around here we could get warlords searching houses for goods to confiscate. I'm hoping for employment as an agriculturalist for the local chief, some kind of supervising and planning thing.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '
')describe your version of total meltdown.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'m talking about the total meltdown thing, PM. I can imagine it being very different in different places, location is a big factor. It's not hard to be pessimistic about my local area. Around here we could get warlords searching houses for goods to confiscate. I'm hoping for employment as an agriculturalist for the local chief, some kind of supervising and planning thing.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')When I become King of Eurasia I promise you that I'll fly you in to my kingdom to be my court philosopher. How's that sound?

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '
')describe your version of total meltdown.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '
')Ironically they still can't get enough of our culture.

[Schweinshaxe]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schweinshaxe', '
')When I become King of Eurasia I promise you that I'll fly you in to my kingdom to be my court philosopher. How's that sound?

[Specop_007]

You guys completely misunderstand the idea of being a survivalist.

[Chocky]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')chwein is correct, adaptation is more about owning a leatherman or a assault rifle. It starts with what is in between your ears.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

One thing I do believe is it would be better to remain on the move all the time. Any sort of "Farming-camp", or solar powered "Eco house" that so many talk about would just be ransacked.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'O')ne thing I do believe is it would be better to remain on the move all the time.

[Jake_old]

What is a survivalist?

I was going to start a new thread but thought what the hell i'll ask here. hope you don't mind PMS.

The top site on google is textfiles.com

And I thought the 100 ways to avoid dying was excellent here

some make sense but some are just odd

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '12. Don't ever, ever rock an empty rocking chair.

'):o

So what is it?

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'O')ne thing I do believe is it would be better to remain on the move all the time.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'Y')ou guys completely misunderstand the idea of being a survivalist.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', 'W')hat is a survivalist?

I was going to start a new thread but thought what the hell i'll ask here. hope you don't mind PMS.

The top site on google is textfiles.com

And I thought the 100 ways to avoid dying was excellent here

some make sense but some are just odd

$this->bbcode_second_pass_code('', '12. Don't ever, ever rock an empty rocking chair.

'):o

So what is it?

[Kylon]

I have a number of simple solutions-

For food, it's called cellulose digesting bacteria, they can be made to work in humans, and the genetic engineering is something that's relatively easy to do, and something I could do(I have another thread all about this).

With the capacity of cellulose digesting bacteria, I can eat anything and everything as a source of food.

For warmth/protection from the environment, it's called lots, and lots of clothing, and when it gets to hot, make it into a back pack and stop wearing it. It may be a drag to carry, but it will protect you from the weather.

For my immune system and medical, I plan on using magnetic regeneration. I know this seems crazy to you, but I think it's valid, and there are studies showing it's validity. Essentially high frequency sinusodal alternating current (electro)magnetic fields, reduce cAMP. Now cAMP reduction is heavily associated with cell dedifferentiation, cell proliferation, and regeneration. Because it keeps cells in a stem cell/non differentiated proliferating state. In some cases it's not(such as in axonal regeneration), but that's due to increased activity of the Rho pathway.

In order to eliminate the possible cancer effects of the magnetic field, I can use the chemopreventive compound silymarin, probably the only plant I will have to growth occasionally, it's also in a weed(milk thistle) so it grows naturally. I might be able to grow a tumor in culture, then inject it into my body, while I am on large amounts of chemo-preventive compounds and develop an immunity(because the body won't recognize cancer right away, it has to learn what's cancerous and what not).

With magnetic regeneration, I could regenerate myself if injured. I could apply it to my lymph nodes to issure increased proliferation of my immune system. This would be necessary in a world where the common cold can kill you, and you have to drink unclean water, and where getting a good bath may only come once a year. Coupled with the cancer immunity, this could effectively prevent alot of the cancer associated with

For power, I could use either a small stirling engine and a generator, or just a human powered generator.

For transportation, a bicycle, or walking.



Anyways...

People won't kill me, because I won't be carrying any food. All my food is on the ground. Wherever there is non-toxic foliage, there's food.

In essence I have a crude(but effective) substitute for food, shelter, medicine, water I would still need a source of, and the capacity to adapt to environmental conditions by simply increasing the growth of my muscle tissue, my immune system, brain cells, liver tissue(for protection against toxins in what I eat and due to pollution).

I could be a vagabond(presupposing I didn't get killed and canabalized), until I could find a community willing to accept me.