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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby strider3700 » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 19:06:06

It's hard to say if the mainstream media is incompetent or corrupt. Either way it's at best useless at worst dangerous lately.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 19:26:09

I'll give the media the benefit of the doubt and hope that they are only responding to their market as they feature fluff and ignore what really matters.

Let's hope they aren't deliberately keeping quiet. Probably not. More likely is that Kunstler is absolutely right in his criticism of modern Amercian mass mentality. The media is only reflecting the current American mindset, I'm afraid.

We're a culture in severe decline...

(BTW, the BBC's UK news site is the best of the bunch, by far, IMHO: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ . They sure as hell are covering the European gas situation a ton better than American outfits are...)
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby sameu » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 19:55:22

mass media is teh sukc!

in the netherlands (same language as in belgium) there are a few good programs who go into depth

the rest is usually a waste of time
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Novus » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 21:00:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', ' ') Here is a real corker, why is'nt the price of gas at $2.75 like it was in the run up to Katrina?


That is because we are draining our strategic oil reserves. We have been doing so ever since Katrina hit. Any additional shortfalls are simply made up by draining the reserve even more. We will likely keep doing this until the reserves are gone and at which point we will reach "Cliff" Oil.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Peak_Modernity » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 21:59:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', ' ') Here is a real corker, why is'nt the price of gas at $2.75 like it was in the run up to Katrina?


The rising price of oil hasn't shut refineries down like Katrina did. That's how it works in my mind anyway.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Novus » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 22:04:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Peak_Modernity', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', ' ') Here is a real corker, why is'nt the price of gas at $2.75 like it was in the run up to Katrina?


The rising price of oil hasn't shut refineries down like Katrina did. That's how it works in my mind anyway.


I don't Remember any refineries being down BEFORE Katrina hit. Gas prices were in the $2.60s and $2.70s a couple a weeks before Katrina hit. Just after Katrina gas prices shot over $3.20.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Heineken » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 23:19:09

The reason gasoline is less expensive now than during the Katrina period is that that was still the "summer driving season," and this is winter. There is less demand for gasoline in winter than during summer.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby TITAN » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 23:29:58

Anyone that considers CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or CNBC to have 'news' is a moron.

If anyone here has satellite TV there is a channel called LINK TV that has pretty decent news, actually, in about 4 minutes a show called "mosaic" airs, and airs every night. It is mostly news from middle east origins and gives many viewpoints on everything that is going on over there. Also, Bloomburg gives ok business and economy news and isn't as biased as the networks, which should all be abolished and the people that run them or work for them should be hung...
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Heineken » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 23:44:43

I couldn't agree more, TITAN. I stopped watching and reading and listening to the mainstream "news" sources years ago, and am much better informed as a result of that.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby leyman » Tue 24 Jan 2006, 23:45:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'A')nyone that considers CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or CNBC to have 'news' is a moron.

If anyone here has satellite TV there is a channel called LINK TV that has pretty decent news, actually, in about 4 minutes a show called "mosaic" airs, and airs every night. It is mostly news from middle east origins and gives many viewpoints on everything that is going on over there. Also, Bloomburg gives ok business and economy news and isn't as biased as the networks, which should all be abolished and the people that run them or work for them should be hung...


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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Zardoz » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 02:31:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'A')nyone that considers CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or CNBC to have 'news' is a moron...


You're being way too harsh. Those organizations do a fine job of covering the daily activities of Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Simpson.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby sicophiliac » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 02:38:45

Yeah I have been screaming at the TV since last spring when oil inched twoards 60 dollars a barrel. At the time the media was having a hayday with Terri Shiavo and the death of the pope. Now oil is near 70 dollars a barrel.. over 20 dollars per barrel higher then it was a year ago and they still dont seem to get it. They do however at least on economicly related programs discuss the tight supply of oil and strong demand but fail to extrapolate that continued growth in demand indefinatly combined with oil production near its max means BIG BIG problems in oh.. 3...4... 5 years out. I do think that since gas prices have dropped off quite a bit over winter now that most of America has fallen back asleep and expect everything to be ok.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby clv101 » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 02:44:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '(')BTW, the BBC's UK news site is the best of the bunch, by far, IMHO: http://news.bbc.co.uk/ . They sure as hell are covering the European gas situation a ton better than American outfits are...)
Better than most but they still had the London whale as their top story for 24hrs on TV, radio and net.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby turmoil » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 02:46:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'A')nyone that considers CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or CNBC to have 'news' is a moron...


You're being way too harsh. Those organizations do a fine job of covering the daily activities of Lindsay Lohan and Jessica Simpson.

and plane crashes... :roll:
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Grimnir » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 03:35:35

Well I don't know about you, but I see headlines all over the place saying things like "oil falls for third straight day". Never mind that it's still in the upper 60's. :roll:
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby turmoil » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 03:53:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Grimnir', 'W')ell I don't know about you, but I see headlines all over the place saying things like "oil falls for third straight day". Never mind that it's still in the upper 60's. :roll:

did Iran drop of the face of the planet over the weekend?
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Liamj » Wed 25 Jan 2006, 04:55:04

Maybe the fall in US stocks caused some on Wall Street to yank the neocons chain, saying 'lay off the war-wank till we can settle the punters and finish covering our own positions'.
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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Shadizar » Thu 26 Jan 2006, 00:32:02

I did notice this. It seemed like there was a flurry of interesting (and important) international news for a while.

Then I turned on the news, and on all three major news stations all I could find was a story about a whale....

I was not impressed.

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Re: Where's the news?

Unread postby Eli » Thu 26 Jan 2006, 00:46:07

Well it is wrong to say that the neocons were behind it being that the majority of US media tends to be liberal at the highest levels.


I do think however liberal or conservative the media is most of all they are interested in making money.

IT Would be interesting to find out how much people who own the system really know about what is going on now with energy. If they do have a good handle on our current situation I could see some big owner of a big media empire getting on the phone telling the news editor to knock off all the gloom and doom stories, telling him it is bad for business.


Anyway old media sucks, give me the internet with all its unfiltered wackos and nut jobs and all the raw news and angles that can be imagined. It takes a while to filter through a story but once you do I think that you get a lot closer to the truth than it ever was possible before.


I think that the media was covering Iran too closely and they got too close to the truth that a confrontation with them would mean 100 dollar oil and the US economy coming to screeching halt. That truth is just too painful to face unless it actually happens.

There has not been day since that Iran has not said something crazy and inflammatory, like blocking the Strait of Hormuz.
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