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Why We Fight

Unread postby lutherquick » Thu 19 Jan 2006, 22:34:54

1 Hour 49 minutes

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/why_we_fight.ram
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This video really shows how crazy the PNAC are. It shows clearly how psychotic, delusionary, and schizophrenic our leaders are.

I try to say it's just the republicans, but it's both. It's the entire American society.
America seams to be in a jam because we need growth to pay our debts and it's going to be either us or their children (Iraq / Iran).

Democracy can not exists without a good economy. And we have found the sweet spot, we have intelligently used market mechanisms to optimize dollar hegemony, foreign policy, media, war, hypocrisy, double standards and covert efforts to take as much resources from all corners of the planet to push our economy into hyper velocity.

When Bush says we are fighting for democracy and freedom, he's not really talking about Iraqi democracy and freedom, he's talking American democracy. As peak oil nibbles at our massive US consumption, we need to strong arm the rest of the world to protect our American Democracy. Their democracy is expendable and is irrelevant.

If we just took the $300 billion spent on Iraq, searching for wmd, if we just put that money into Fusion, for example, then we would have "some" peace. And if Americans really knew the truth, I believe they would finally admit we need an American perestroika, an American glasnost, and retire our murderous American leaders in nursing home.

The lost war in Iraq or the current pissing contest with Iran isn't about wmd, nukes, petrodollars, forex, containing Russia, competing with China or access to energy, these wars are here because ALL of these issues. We look for some silver bullet, one reason, there isn't just one. All these complex issues are needed to be done our way or American democracy ends.

We need oil, and children must die for our American exponential growth.
I hope the children win.
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Re: Why We Fight

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Thu 19 Jan 2006, 23:45:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', '
')America seams to be in a jam


Yes!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', '
')Democracy can not exists without a good economy.


Say it ain't so!


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', '
') And we have found the sweet spot, we have intelligently used market mechanisms to optimize dollar hegemony, foreign policy, media, war, hypocrisy, double standards and covert efforts to take as much resources from all corners of the planet to push our economy into hyper velocity.


hyper velocity? dollar hegemony? ( Is this good or bad ya think? )

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', '
')We need oil, and children must die for our American exponential growth.
I hope the children win.


Lets cheer on the children! And the general state of American public education.
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Re: Why We Fight

Unread postby coyote » Fri 20 Jan 2006, 01:28:30

Reserve, I believe lutherquick was actually trying to make a serious point. Your response was in bad taste, especially the last paragraph. Just to let you know.
Lord, here comes the flood
We'll say goodbye to flesh and blood
If again the seas are silent in any still alive
It'll be those who gave their island to survive...
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Re: Why We Fight

Unread postby Free » Fri 20 Jan 2006, 17:02:38

Thanks for this excellent documentary. It really makes one wanting back such great leaders as Eisenhower. As usual the military professionals see easier through the war mongering smoke screen than the chicken hawks.

But this is not a new and exclusively American phenomenon. Throughout history all empires seem to fall into the trap of getting crushed by the economic burden of their own military which always seems to deliver less bang for the buck the bigger it gets. The law of diminishing returns by greater complexity.

Read "The rise and fall of great powers" by Paul Kennedy about the connections between military, political and economical development, it is a real eye opener.
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