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Unread postby WebHubbleTelescope » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 01:40:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'T')he news reports today are saying that the project will be delayed until they figure out why the computer-controlled ballast system failed.

Computer? Interesting how BP could not afford a WebCamera on their $2 billion off-shore oil platform and were fortunate that "A passing ship sparked the alarm after spotting the Thunder Horse platform leaning at an angle of 25 degrees." Lucky that the SS Osama was cruising the other Gulf and was preoccupied planning on other targets. Jeebus. link
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Unread postby merecat » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 07:54:36

Some people say that by using HAARP it's possible to steer storms, just as Nikola Tesla predicted so many moons ago. So maybe Thunder Horse was an insurance job. Maybe we'll see alot more 'broken' rigs as oil depletes further.
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Unread postby Cyrus » Sat 16 Jul 2005, 11:22:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ome people say that by using HAARP it's possible to steer storms, just as Nikola Tesla predicted so many moons ago. So maybe Thunder Horse was an insurance job. Maybe we'll see alot more 'broken' rigs as oil depletes further.

Thats sort of what I was thinking, but didn't have the courage to say it. Thanks. :)
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Unread postby DantesPeak » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 08:32:26

Pump it up: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')P's massive floating oil and gas platform, Thunder Horse, appeared close to its normal upright position Sunday as recovery crews continued pumping out flooded support pylons.

The 59,500-ton vessel, located in the Gulf of Mexico 150 miles southeast of New Orleans, had been leaning as much as 20 degrees since July 11. On Sunday, the company said it was listing just 5 degrees and that the deck had risen 46 feet above sea level.
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Unread postby Leanan » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 10:45:16

But they still don't know what caused the problem. It wasn't the computer controlled ballast system; apparently, that was turned off when the platform was evacuated. It wasn't Dennis; the 30 ft. waves Dennis produced in the area are well within design tolerances. It wasn't that winch dropped overboard; there's no visible damage to the structure.
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Unread postby SuperNova » Mon 18 Jul 2005, 12:36:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('merecat', 'S')ome people say that by using HAARP it's possible to steer storms, just as Nikola Tesla predicted so many moons ago. So maybe Thunder Horse was an insurance job. Maybe we'll see alot more 'broken' rigs as oil depletes further.

Yes except Thunder Donkey was self-insured by the shareholders, BP (75%) & Exxon (25%) so if it sinks they foot the bill (well their shareholders)
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Thunder Horse

Unread postby clv101 » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 14:24:17

The Thunder Horse platform is big! Here it is being moved into position on the Norwegian heavy transport ship Blue Marlin:

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http://www.fiberbond.com/bp-thunderhorse.html

And for a sense of scale here's the USS Cole being recovered after it was attacked on the same transport ship (I guess it's been painted red since then):

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http://www.dr-joe.com/cole/

And here's an image from earlier this month, it may be big but it's not immune to bad weather:
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http://www.klfy.com/Global/story.asp?S=3585898
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 15:22:40

Theres no way bad weather caused that. No other platform had a problem, and in fact I dont think any other platform in the world would have had a problem with the weather in the area that week.
There was some other cause to this list. As yet, unannounced. But they will have to tell us or the Coast Gaurd wont re-certify the seaworthiness of it.
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 15:35:23

You can find a hi res photo Here

Needless to say, they were LUCKY this time. If it had had the tie ons to the undersea wells in place it would have went under. The effects of losing this platform would be incalculable.
We should be thankful it didnt go under.
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Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 19:13:38

Straight from the horse's, I mean BP's, mouth:

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')LOYDS LIST
Copyright 2005 Informa Martime Trade and Transport
July 27, 2005

Storm steals BP's profits thunder

Martyn Wingrove

BP's growth strategy in the Gulf of Mexico took a pounding when Hurricane Dennis crashed through the region causing the Thunder Horse production platform, which could be pumping out 250,000 barrels of oil a day in 2006, to almost sink. The London-listed oil firm has stabilised the production semi-submersible and returned displacement to normal levels, but it is facing a six-month delay to first oil on one of the region's largest projects.

'We are clearly not going to start Thunder Horse until we have sorted out the recent incident,' said Lord Browne. 'While there has been no damage to the subsea parts we still need to examine the floating facility to see what damage it might have suffered.'

The platform was designed to be able to list at 25°, while flooding of the hull substructure and pontoons pulled the facility into a list of 20° after the hurricane.
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Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 26 Jul 2005, 21:10:40

"The platform was designed to be able to list at 25°, while flooding of the hull substructure and pontoons pulled the facility into a list of 20° after the hurricane."

Well, at least they successfully completed that test. :-D
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby Leanan » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 01:15:57

If anyone's wondering about Thunder Horse...BP says it will go online "the second half of 2006."

From Bloomberg:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')P Plc, Europe's largest oil company, said a decline in oil and gas production worsened in the fourth quarter, with damage from hurricanes costing more than $900 million in profit at its Texas City refinery.

Output in the period was about 4.01 million barrels of oil equivalent a day, 2.2 percent less than the 4.1 million reported in the year-earlier period, London-based BP said today in a statement. Production fell 2.1 percent in the previous quarter, the first quarterly drop in two years.

The hurricanes hurt BP's output after Chief Executive Officer John Browne spent about $90 billion on acquisitions in the U.S. to build the country into the company's most important market. The storms set back the start of the Thunder Horse platform in the Gulf, now expected no sooner than July instead of last quarter. No date was given today for the Texas plant to resume processing.

``BP's lack of production is a global phenomenon,'' said Puru Saxena, chief executive of Puru Saxena Ltd. in Hong Kong, which manages $130 million for clients. ``The world's consuming a lot more oil and supplies are getting tighter. New output is going to take time to hit the market.''
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby TT » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 01:23:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'I')f anyone's wondering about Thunder Horse...BP says it will go online "the second half of 2006."



Goody. Just in time for the next round of hurricanes.
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby frankthetank » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 02:07:28

F 'in thing starts pumping oil July 1st and a cat 5 takes it out the next day...wouldn't suprise me :)
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Unread postby tsakach » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 04:05:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lora', 'I')t's also now a "fully-submersible" instead of a "semi-submersible".


A fully submersible oil platform, what a brilliant idea. How much of it actually needs to be above water?
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby Leanan » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 10:39:45

I kind of doubt it will be pumping oil in July. BP said "the second half of 2006," and the ever-optimistic financial press took that as "July 1, 2006." Analysts predicted when the problem occurred that Thunder Horse would be delayed by a year, which would mean maybe Nov.-Dec. 2006. Still no word on what went wrong. Obviously, it was a design issue, but BP is being very close-mouthed.
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 15:23:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'I') kind of doubt it will be pumping oil in July. BP said "the second half of 2006," and the ever-optimistic financial press took that as "July 1, 2006." Analysts predicted when the problem occurred that Thunder Horse would be delayed by a year, which would mean maybe Nov.-Dec. 2006. Still no word on what went wrong. Obviously, it was a design issue, but BP is being very close-mouthed.

Its a good thing they found that design issue before they went live with it. I'm pretty sure the added weight of the piping would have been enough to drag her down if it was live when it started the list.
Granted,its rated to 25 degrees of list but it was doing 20 with no external weight. Who knows though.
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Unread postby Eddie_lomax » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 18:20:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('merecat', 'S')ome people say that by using HAARP it's possible to steer storms, just as Nikola Tesla predicted so many moons ago. So maybe Thunder Horse was an insurance job. Maybe we'll see alot more 'broken' rigs as oil depletes further.

Wow, and I thought I was pesemistic 8) You do find a different view on things on this message board.
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Re: BP - Thunderhorse oil rig listing badly in U.S. Gulf

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 13 Jan 2006, 11:03:52

One of the oil guys over at The Oil Drum said yesterday that the problem with Thunder Horse was due to the valves of the ballast system. And also the anchor system. Design issues, I guess.
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How much does the average wellhead in GoM produce/day?

Unread postby mekrob » Sat 27 May 2006, 12:35:19

I'm wondering this to find out the economics of GoM production. I've read (from BP's site), that the Thunderhorse is expected to have about 25 wells, and production will be about 200kpd, so roughly 8 kpd/well. Work this out and we find that with a hundred million dollar investment for each well, each well (in Thunderhorse) will make about 46 million a year. This definatley won't be the case for the entire region as this is a prett large field while most are much smaller. Does anyone have any figures for the question mentioned in the title?
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