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Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Lokutus » Mon 09 Jan 2006, 13:53:38

New Law signed by Bush reads:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402:
"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Got that specop? Since you only post to harrass peeps, you will need to include your real name and address with every post.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 09 Jan 2006, 14:02:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '
')Got that specop? Since you only post to harrass peeps, you will need to include your real name and address with every post.
:lol: I see what you mean about "the funniest guy to surf the internet". Got a link to that NY Times article about you, loki?
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Lokutus » Mon 09 Jan 2006, 14:08:00

The article is behind the Time's new pay wall, so I won't bother posting the link.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Daculling » Mon 09 Jan 2006, 14:43:16

Here's the cnet article, ridiculous. I guess I'm a felon now.

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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby entropyfails » Mon 09 Jan 2006, 21:14:32

I'm certain that Specop finds you all annoying as well. *laugh* I guess we are all felons now.

Perhaps I need to change my sig to...

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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Kylon » Wed 11 Jan 2006, 22:00:35

Hypothetical situation-


I know why this law was made.


You decide to write something bad about about the government.

Your website annoys the government.

You become a felon, and can't vote.

Thus, only people who abide to the in power administration, can vote, or have anything in the government, or have any power. This makes the administration have absolute power.

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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 11 Jan 2006, 23:17:15

No. Sadly this is another step in the pathetic liberal, PC agenda to create a world that is completely padded and child proofed where no one speaks to eachother except in lullabies and Barneyisms.

Specop. Are you paying attention. You hate liberals right? The liberals that passed this piece of garbage were REPUBLICANS!

Just please don't get annoyed with me! :-D

By the way. In case anyone was wondering, Smallpoxgirl is infact my full legal name. :razz:
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby The_Virginian » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 01:00:02

CongressCritters need to be trapped and told an earful about how this needs changing ASAP.

While they do have to prove intent, Federal Courts have over the 90% conviction rates that should make one shudder.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 03:35:48

CongressCritters know what they are doing is illegal anyway. At this stage, they need to be culled.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 10:15:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'N')ew Law signed by Bush reads:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402:
"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Got that specop? Since you only post to harrass peeps, you will need to include your real name and address with every post.


Technically, you'll need to have your parents file charges or the State. I dont believe attorneys will directly represent grade schoolers,mainly because they have no money to pay the bill.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Daculling » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 10:17:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'H')ypothetical situation-


I know why this law was made.


You decide to write something bad about about the government.

Your website annoys the government.

You become a felon, and can't vote.

Thus, only people who abide to the in power administration, can vote, or have anything in the government, or have any power. This makes the administration have absolute power.

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Or own a weapon. What if the administration annoys me? In any case, I think this was enacted to give teeth to the anti-span movement though the wording just wasn't thought out very well.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby crow » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 13:18:22

What if someone was to complain to the authorities of a particular poster?

Is there a site where we can report others or do we just dial 911?
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 14:24:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crow', 'W')hat if someone was to complain to the authorities of a particular poster?

Is there a site where we can report others or do we just dial 911?


Call 911 and report a e-stalker or e-harrasser.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 14:58:34

I know some of you out there like to take things to extremes...you have been warned

http://www.courttv.com/news/2006/0112/c ... t_ctv.html

Gillespie, 53, claims that Marlowe and Bob Charpentier, a 52-year-old Oregon resident, insulted him and harassed him in the AOL chatroom called "Romance — Older Men" to the point where it inflicted "severe emotional distress and physical injury that is of a nature no reasonable man could be expected to endure it."

The complaint, expected in court on Jan. 31 for a pretrial conference, also names AOL as a defendant for allowing the alleged harassment to take place.

Mike Marlowe fully admits that he sometimes gave George Gillespie a hard time in that AOL chatroom.

But never in his wildest imagination did he expect to be sued in court for what he characterized as "razzing."

"We gave him crap," said Marlowe, a 33-year-old welder in Fayette, Ala. "I'm not going to deny it. I teased him and he teased me back. He gave it back better than he ever got it."

A generation ago, such petty personal beefs might have been settled with fists outside the corner bar, but now it's the Internet age — and Ohio resident George Gillespie instead filed a $25,000 lawsuit against two erstwhile cyber chums he met in the sprawling 900-room, mostly anonymous society that makes up AOL's chat universe
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Specop_007 » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 15:14:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'I') know some of you out there like to take things to extremes...you have been warned



You wouldnt be making threats now would you?
Go ahead kiddie, sue away. Lord knows any 10 of us could counter sue on your ass so fast it'd make your head spin.

As they say, whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

Personally, if I were a mod I'd take those threats you just made DEAD serious, because your example also sites the host.

Which means you just alol but said you'd sue PO.com in addition to its members.

I would think the mods would realize it is in their best interests to ban your IP, lest PO.com finds itself in a legal tizzy when your parents get an attorney.
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Annoy someone on the Internet, go to jail

Unread postby Leanan » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 16:16:27

Shrub signed a law making it illegal to annoy people on the Internet:

http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyan ... 22491.html

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's no joke. Last Thursday, President Bush signed into law a prohibition on posting annoying Web messages or sending annoying e-mail messages without disclosing your true identity.

In other words, it's OK to flame someone on a mailing list or in a blog as long as you do it under your real name. Thank Congress for small favors, I guess.

This ridiculous prohibition, which would likely imperil much of Usenet, is buried in the so-called Violence Against Women and Department of Justice Reauthorization Act. Criminal penalties include stiff fines and two years in prison.
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Re: Annoy someone on the Internet, go to jail

Unread postby FoxV » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 16:46:05

I love the "Department of Justice Reauthorization Act" part of the title

ie, reauthorizing the justice department to be able to arrest anyone at any time.

And I would be very annoyed with anyone who disagrees with me :P
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Re: Annoy someone on the Internet, go to jail

Unread postby backstop » Thu 12 Jan 2006, 17:58:17

I find it profoundly annoying that Congress has passed a bill with such brazen gender discrimination - even in its title !

Where is my redress ?

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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Chaparral » Fri 13 Jan 2006, 01:26:41

Well, In case I've annoyed anyone, my real name is Gofaka Yusef. My address is well, lets see, there's that crackhouse in Compton that would work...yeah, it you have a problem, come see me at the 13000 S. Broadway block in Compton, Calif USA. It it appears to have been raided by the Sherrifs Dept or worse, bulldozed and turned into a tilt-up industrial bldg, just keep tooling around the side streets until you see a house with some mean dudes hanging out in front and yell out my name. Some one will likely come out to assist you.
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Re: Very bad legal news for some folks here

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Fri 13 Jan 2006, 03:06:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'N')ew Law signed by Bush reads:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:h.r.03402:
"Whoever...utilizes any device or software that can be used to originate telecommunications or other types of communications that are transmitted, in whole or in part, by the Internet... without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten, or harass any person...who receives the communications...shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Would this apply to unnamed "Bush administration officials" threatening certain persons (Bad Guys)?
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