[holmes]

I am well aware of this and have been for quite along time.
This is the scenario:
phone rings brriiingg

(U.S.) Hello

(Resource Depletion) Hello. I am here.

(U.S) Hello?

(RD) Times up
(U.S) Ummm. I dont know who u are or what u are. Please explain.
(RD)(explains situation)
(U.S.) We need to set up a meeting of all the organizations and members and begin DRAFTING a plan. It must be done on a local, state, county, fed level.
(RD) OK. But things need to be done now and can not wait another day.
(U.S.) We need to set up a meeting of all the organizations and members and begin DRAFTING a plan(only way known to respond to these crisis). We can build more roads.
(RD)OK. But more roads and pavement will not help and
things need to be done now and can not wait another day.
(U.S.) Ummm (becoming agitated) wait I will transfer u to someone who might know about these things. Hold on second.
(RD) wait I do not have a second!
(U.S.) Music playing on hold
(RD) Good Bye

[Ayoob]

I tried the Department of Energy. Very nice people. The guy I spoke with is well aware of the concept of PO, and said that they know it's coming, and that the date can't be confirmed. They have read Twilight in the Desert, they are monitoring oil supplies around the world, all that good stuff.

I asked if they have a Plan B somewhere, and the answer is no. They do not have a Plan B. Officially. They are monitoring the situation and are aware, and the official DoE position is "Uh..."

1-800-dial-DOE

That is their number, I'd suggest giving them a call, see what they're up to, suggest that they try to figure something out. So, that's who to talk to if you live in the US, the Department of Energy. They do have people there that will talk to you and they know that the problem exists and they apparently are the ones that could do something if they wanted to.

[holmes]

Yoob when u coming up? The asparagus begins harvest in late may!

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') asked if they have a Plan B somewhere, and the answer is no. They do not have a Plan B. Officially. They are monitoring the situation and are aware, and the official DoE position is "Uh..."

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DigitalCubano', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') asked if they have a Plan B somewhere, and the answer is no. They do not have a Plan B. Officially. They are monitoring the situation and are aware, and the official DoE position is "Uh..."

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'Y')oob when u coming up? The asparagus begins harvest in late may!

[Chaparral]

I'll try and broach the subject with Janice Hahn and Jenny Oropeza. They're the councilwoman and representative for my area. A lot of our dipsh!ts in local gov't are pretty ignorant about a lot of things in their backyard. A goodly number of aides are just stupid, smarmy college interns hanging around corridors of power and don't know shyt about anything other than what they read in the mainstream press. I am kind of glad that ignorance is the norm now, as I still have a rental property or two to sell so I can take some of the proceeds and go long on shiny yellowish metals. I'll bring the subject up at the neighborhood council meetings when gas hits 5 bucks a gallon. Until then I'm keeping my mouth shut.

BTW I got asparagus spears popping up right now. Of course, since i am in the harbor area, they will probably be covered with a fine layer of diesel soot when it comes time to cut them.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'Y')ou silly Peak Oilers. All this time you've been writing letters, "raising awareness" through silly things like showing films. Hah. What has that and a nickel gotten you?

I'll tell you what: a cup of jack squat.

What you should have been doing is slipping Superbowl tickets and VIP passes to http://www.privelageny.com to Jack Abramoff and friends along with a note to the effect of, "If you want more of the good stuff, you'll start dealing with this issue."

I guaran-damn-tee you that would have been a more effective way to get things done.

Best,

Matt

[holmes]

Yoob I gots family down in glendale and san diego so your not alone. Personally I beleive it will be ll ok for several years. Maybe by 2008 the economy will begin to REALLY tank. but Im looking more around 2015-2025 for changes to really come about. like the gubmint going bankrupt. So I wouldnt worry too much but in 3 years I would reccomend u get out of dodge, bro. But anytime u want to visit ur welcome anytime. When the gub goes is when its gonna get tricky. That actually might be the spark that gets the whole ball rolling IMHO.

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DigitalCubano', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') asked if they have a Plan B somewhere, and the answer is no. They do not have a Plan B. Officially. They are monitoring the situation and are aware, and the official DoE position is "Uh..."

[DigitalCubano]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TonyPrep', 'H')ow can anyone take the decsision that it's too early to have a plan B? Without actually having a plan B, you don't know how long it will take for that unknown plan to have an impact on PO. But no-one knows when PO will occur. Not DigitalCubano, not Mike Lynch, not Colin Campbell, not Deffeyes, not anyone. All we have are incomplete data, suppositions and guesses. To do nothing, not even draw up a plan, because PO might be x years away is crazy.

Tony

[TonyPrep]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DigitalCubano', 'T')ony & Ayoob, the question I posed is derived from the section titled Risk Management from the Hirsch Report:$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Hirsch', 'T')he two risks are asymmetric:
• Mitigation actions initiated prematurely will be costly and could result in
a poor use of resources.
• Late initiation of mitigation may result in severe consequences.