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Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby Ayoob » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 19:01:51

I had to explain to them what I meant by the term "peak oil." I am actually busting out laughing right now. How incredible is that? Oh, and Representative Becerra drives an electric car. The hits just keep on coming.

So I tried today. It took a minute for me to explain the situation to the guy and he's all Hey, I'll get something out in the mail for you, the Rep doesn't really have a position on that, he's not on the energy committee, he likes public transportation and not so much building roads but using alternative methods of transportation.

Need I remind y'all that I live in Los Angeles? He's not into building roads?

This is just too funny.

I called Boxer's office earlier today to ask about the Senator's position with regards to "extraordinary rendition." What's the cover story supposed to be? Is there supposed to be some legitimate purpose for this other than doing something illegal? Seriously, what were they planning on telling us?

Here is the website where you can find your own Representative. Their phone numbers are available at that site. I wonder if anybody's going to get their actual Rep on the line or get somebody at an office that is somewhat aware of the situation.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby Ayoob » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 19:37:06

More fun with politicians--

Just got off the phone with the Mayor of Los Angeles' assistant to the Deputy Mayor of Energy or something like that, nice woman. I had to explain to her what peak oil is. They don't really have anything in mind with regards to peak oil, and thought that if this is true then we should all take the bus. Oh, and they run on NatGas here. I mentioned the upcoming production cliff, and she was kind of blase about it. Really? she says.

She said she doesn't know what the Metropolitan Transit Authority has in mind with regards to this. MTA runs the busses and trains and whatnot.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby MattSavinar » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 20:00:35

Thank God the people in charge know what they're doing.

Best,

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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby Ayoob » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 20:06:43

Matt,

I paid my electric bill in person a couple months ago and I asked the person behind the counter what they used to generate the electricity. Do we use natural gas, or coal, or what?

She said, no, we just use regular electricity.

I can't believe it. They really have absolutely no idea at all. No clue.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby jato » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 20:11:36

More proof that everything will be just fine! The government is on top of it! :(
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Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 21:46:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'M')att,

I paid my electric bill in person a couple months ago and I asked the person behind the counter what they used to generate the electricity. Do we use natural gas, or coal, or what?

She said, no, we just use regular electricity.

I can't believe it. They really have absolutely no idea at all. No clue.


"A person behind a counter" doesn't exactly have authority or the power to change anything.

There will always be ignorance amongst the masses though...

Well, maybe until the die-off! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby aahala » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 00:26:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'M')att,

I paid my electric bill in person a couple months ago and I asked the person behind the counter what they used to generate the electricity. Do we use natural gas, or coal, or what?

She said, no, we just use regular electricity.

I can't believe it. They really have absolutely no idea at all. No clue.


That's really funny.

Here's the scary part we can only imagine. There may have been
numerous other job applicants whom she beat out!
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby coyote » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 00:57:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'M')att,

I paid my electric bill in person a couple months ago and I asked the person behind the counter what they used to generate the electricity. Do we use natural gas, or coal, or what?

She said, no, we just use regular electricity.

I can't believe it. They really have absolutely no idea at all. No clue.

LOL! That's awesome...
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby MattSavinar » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 01:08:27

Ayoob,

Here's what you need to do: cut a bribe . . . I mean "campaign contribution check" that has it's background as the Hubbert Peak.

Cut the checks in crements of $1.00 and send one every few days until you hit the limit, which I believe is $2,000 per person. Eventually, your representative might catch on.

Best,

Matt
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby savethehumans » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 01:18:24

I just love your dry wit, Matt! Seriously, some people just won't get it until it's at their door! Others don't get it without a good zinger! Keep 'em coming!

BTW, if ignorance is bliss, why are so many Americans unhappy?

(Not as good a zinger as Matt's, but I'd give it a B.)
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 02:17:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')his kind of constructive criticism is just what I'd expect from a comic book character. oh exuse me. an anime character.


Oh-kaaayyy...

??? (I'm extremely puzzled by your comment. If that 'oh exuse me. an anime character' part wasn't there, it would have another tone altogether... And usually people on forums don't usually attack people on the basis of their avatars... but it could be that your old/out-of-touch-with-this-thing and think that your using the correct term or something when you say 'oh exuse me. an anime character'...)

(That, "oh exuse me", part reeks of snobbery for me..)

It seems like your baiting me or something?

Anyways..

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')TW, if ignorance is bliss, why are so many Americans unhappy?


Because Americans think they know everything? :lol:
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby Barbara » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 06:42:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 's')ome people just won't get it until it's at their door!

Some people don't get it even if thay have a peakoiler in the bed every night!!!!
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby justgas » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 09:55:59

Yes there is a dreadful lack of knowledge out there about peak oil. And the ones that have heard of it, thing hydrogen or oil from Nigeria or Canadian tar sands or something will solve the problem without their taking any action.

I think politicians are ignoring peak oil because there is no big peak oil industry for them to get into bed with. If there are no lobbies to make big donations to their campaigns why should they pay attention to an issue. It's not their job to save the world or provide leadership. they're just well paid paper pushers. [sarcasm flag on]
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby MattSavinar » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 10:59:23

You silly Peak Oilers. All this time you've been writing letters, "raising awareness" through silly things like showing films. Hah. What has that and a nickel gotten you?

I'll tell you what: a cup of jack squat.

What you should have been doing is slipping Superbowl tickets and VIP passes to http://www.privelageny.com to Jack Abramoff and friends along with a note to the effect of, "If you want more of the good stuff, you'll start dealing with this issue."

I guaran-damn-tee you that would have been a more effective way to get things done.

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Unread postby MattSavinar » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 11:02:03

I tried to link to an upscale gentleman's club located in NY in the above post, but the page edited it out!

That sort of kills the whole joke.

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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 13:29:02

No one cares about Peak Oil because it's not a problem RIGHT NOW.

Really, P.O. doesn't pick their pocket or break their leg any way they can see. It has no face like Osama Bin Laden. You can't see it on TV like hurricane Katrina. It's not trashing the neighborhood like that house full of illegal aliens down the street. It's not popping up on the kids' computers like gay porn.

Of course they shouldn't care. Yes, one day they WILL care about Peak Oil very much, but until that time, annoying and chastising them will only alienate us and poison them towards ideas like sustainability, community, and frugality.

Leave the people alone. They will get familiar with P.O. when the need arises. Until then, being an butt-hole about it hurts the situation more than it helps.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby Ayoob » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 15:36:59

Just got off the horn with the Governator's office, they said the Governor has never addressed the issue of liquid fuels and doesn't have any plans to do so. He delegates that to the California Energy Commission, who I also called, and they're supposed to get back to me some time in the next couple of weeks.

I'm a total weirdo for spending my day off on this crap.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby DigitalCubano » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 15:40:09

Agreed, TJ.

Honestly, what is the big deal over the fact that neither a congressional representative or city official are PO aware at present? When it starts to become a serious issue (sooner or later; irksome or grave...what defines the myriad positions on here) then practically everyone will become PO aware. I'd be concerned if the folks at the DoE weren't hip to the issue. Heck, it boils down to the optimality of the division of labor. These officials take their cues concerning energy trends and forecasting from the experts responsible for conducting these analyses. The last thing I want is some city manager hatching some hair-brained PO scheme at present because they see a Logistic curve on some PO website.
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Re: Called Rep. Becerra's office, they don't know what PO is

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Thu 05 Jan 2006, 15:50:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'Y')ou silly Peak Oilers. All this time you've been writing letters, "raising awareness" through silly things like showing films. Hah. What has that and a nickel gotten you?

I'll tell you what: a cup of jack squat.

What you should have been doing is slipping Superbowl tickets and VIP passes to http://www.privelageny.com to Jack Abramoff and friends along with a note to the effect of, "If you want more of the good stuff, you'll start dealing with this issue."

I guaran-damn-tee you that would have been a more effective way to get things done.

Best,

Matt


The problem is, Matt, that it costs a hell of a lot of dough to buy politicians, and indirectly public policy. It's usually only attempted by those who stand to get a large return on their investment. Who stands to gain billions by making PO a public issue? Nobody.

Maybe if we could somehow turn Bono into a peaker he might be able to influence the spending of his buds Bill and Melinda Gates. Then we could really get somewhere.
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