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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by donshan » Sat 24 Dec 2005, 18:05:58
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ranger', ' ')The powers that be know all this "peak Oil" stuff and they are preparing for it behind the scenes. People going into survivalist mode need to relax. I'm sure we will have some tight times with our energy, but the most brilliant minds in the country are on top of it so chill a little.
Ranger, welcome to this peak oil forum. Keep reading and thinking. There is enough stuff here of various quality from outstanding analysis and insights all the way to the incredibly dumb.
Your point of the "brilliant minds being are on top of it" is one of my major worries. In the Book Reviews section are the books "A Century of War- Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order" by William Engdahl, and William Clark's "Petrodollar Warfare".
Both books put the "Peak Oil" issue into the the "Big Picture" perspective.
I am paraphrasing, but oil has been at the center of world politics since about 1905 when the British switched their battleships to oil fuel. World politics and two world wars , and two Mid-east wars have concerned strategic oil supplies. The British navy sustained the British Empire which resulted in British occupation of Persia (Now Iran), Kuwait and what now is Iraq during WWI. WWI was in part due to block German attempts to build a railroad from Berlin to Bagdad to get oil for German battleships.
The US enters the picture just before WWII in Saudi Arabia. Oil was a deciding factor in Allied victory in WWII and this fact has never left US strategy.
Jumping to today these books point out a new grand strategy. Go to the website of The Project for the New American Century (PNAC) and read their "Statement of Principles" and then look at both the date and the people who signed it. They include VP Cheney and a number of people in the Bush Administration who are " on top of this".
http://www.newamericancentury.org/state ... ciples.htm
One interpretation is that the subject of the approaching peak in oil supplies is VERY well understood, especially in the light of Cheney's long oil background. It is understood that the US economy, the US dollar, the US military and the role of the US as a superpower depends on a continued supply of imported oil. The books above then show how US diplomatic, economic, and military power are being used to leave nothing to chance about keeping the US first in line to get oil supplies, and keeping the US dollar as the world's reserve currency with oil priced in dollars.
Try those ideas on to get your mind around how serious the problem of peak oil really is.
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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by donshan » Sat 24 Dec 2005, 18:06:35
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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by 3rensho » Sun 25 Dec 2005, 04:37:40
Ranger the US did not invent the bicycle.
The French invented the velocipede and later the bicycle.
Although there is debate to this day which Frenchman did it.
Perhaps if you feel technological innovation will save us from this problem we will soon face, might I suggest moving to France?
Merry Christmas!
The French invented the velocipede and later the bicycle.
Although there is debate to this day which Frenchman did it.
Perhaps if you feel technological innovation will save us from this problem we will soon face, might I suggest moving to France?
Merry Christmas!
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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by chris-h » Sun 25 Dec 2005, 07:53:19
Ranger that is what will happen in the US
http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diaryplus.html
pay attention to this ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s the Chinese proverb goes: a well-fed person may have many problems but a starving person only has one problem
http://www.kunstler.com/mags_diaryplus.html
pay attention to this ...
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')s the Chinese proverb goes: a well-fed person may have many problems but a starving person only has one problem
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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by Revi » Mon 26 Dec 2005, 19:03:55
Ranger, have you ever heard of the crab bucket principle? That's the idea that you don't have to put a cover on the crab bucket because every time a crab looks like it'll crawl out, the others pull it back in. Don't listen to these crabs. They don't have anything going to save them if peak oil hits, so they just post messages of no hope. I have been aware of peak oil for longer than most, and decided five years ago to do something about it. It is going to be a serious wrenching change, but there are things you can do about it. For most of us, there is little one can do to fix things on a grand scale. The people steering the ship aren't even going to hear us. All we can do is to let those people in our communities know about it and prepare ourselves.
If you live in a place with wood, a woodstove is a great idea. If you own any land get a garden going. It'll kick into fertility if you feed it with manure, etc. Buy hand tools, install solar (thermal and pv) Form a peak oil group. Don't give up and don't be a crab! People don't listen to them.
The US did invent the mountain bike. I have a friend who is in the running for one of those who invented it. The Scots invented the regular bike. One point for you.
If you live in a place with wood, a woodstove is a great idea. If you own any land get a garden going. It'll kick into fertility if you feed it with manure, etc. Buy hand tools, install solar (thermal and pv) Form a peak oil group. Don't give up and don't be a crab! People don't listen to them.
The US did invent the mountain bike. I have a friend who is in the running for one of those who invented it. The Scots invented the regular bike. One point for you.
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Re: Guess what?? We are going to be fine!!
by omo » Tue 27 Dec 2005, 01:38:01
Wow, guys... really, you surprise me. Bicycle is purely european invention. What America always did succesfuly was patenting stuff and getting inventors and scientists from Europe and Asia into the country. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_bicycle
Not to say there's no great inventors or scientists in the US, off course, there's plenty of them but none is a native american
Not to say there's no great inventors or scientists in the US, off course, there's plenty of them but none is a native american
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