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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 10:47:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')hat reminds me has anyone seen that new movie "Back Door Mountain"?
Back Door Mountain :lol: You refer to "Brokeback Mountain" I presume. Interesting double-entendre in that title. Euripedes' play The Bacchae explored the theme that when men become interested in playing the role of women, and women become interested in playing the role of men, that society crumbles in disaster.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby Eli » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 11:26:47

I call BS on "Bareback Mountain" and all the awards it has already gotten.

It may be a very fine film well shot and acted but who the hell wants to go see it?

It has only opened on 3 screens one in LA, San Fran, and the other in New York and now all the critics are raving about how wonderful it is, bullshit!
Well hell yeah the movie is going to do well on those three screens.

This is just the old Hollywood machine operating through self promotion and manipulation.

Well being that homosexual relationships by there very nature do not lead to more offspring to carry on society, I can see how Euripides would come to that conclusion.

I really think however that homosexuality is just small potatoes compared to the effects that internet porn is having on culture. Every house that has a computer has instant access to the worse kind of smut imaginable, the effects of which we really do not have the foggiest. There are a new generation of kids who have free access to this shit thanks to absentee parents, I do not think it is going to make them stable pillars of the community.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 11:52:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', ' ')I do not think it is going to make them stable pillars of the community.
The community is in for some big changes, wouldn't you say? Peakoil and all. It's all irrelevant. BTW "Brokeback Mountain" looks one way, but it sounds just like Brokeback Mountin', as in "WooooHooo! Ride 'em!" And as for "brokeback", well, you get the idea.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby Eli » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 11:59:08

Now if it was about lesbian cowgirls featuring Angelina Jolie and Natalie Portman, well now there is a movie I could get into. wink (stupid non-wink icon)

About society changing you are damn skippy it is going to change, I think it is likely to get very crazy not necessarily violent but just debased. Like back when the plaque was ripping a part Europe a large part of society threw all restraint aside and just decided "that if we are all going to die tomorrow let us eat drink and screw today". They did it to the point that they would even abandon their own kids and just drink and drink for days on end.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby Eli » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 12:28:24

You have obviously never been to Bangkok.

:o :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 12:31:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'i')f we are all going to die tomorrow let us eat drink and screw toady
Screw toady? never heard of that twist. ribbit.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PrairieMule » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 13:00:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'i')f we are all going to die tomorrow let us eat drink and screw toady
Screw toady? never heard of that twist. ribbit.


First it starts with recreational licking which is a gateway to other deviant behavior. There is actually a recovery group out there called Treatment Of Amphibian Deviancy(TOAD).

www.kickthetoad.org
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby holmes » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 13:35:36

we have whole generations that are irrelevent. worthless especially post peak. Playing xbox and surfing the net and driving a low ride custom muffler jap car kicking the base is not going to be in much demand. Not many are going to be like wow he/she so cool. I want to be like that. lol. They are going to be surviving and hopeing no one will back door their assses. LOL. Really these little wanna be punks are real weaklings mentally and physically. Its really just a big tuff guy act dependent on cheap oil. Oil has protected them like a body guard. And the parents of the priveledged have no other option except oil culture. scary. Yeah it will degenerate quickly. I am afraid to see Kong. I hate when kong is murdered. but Then it wouldnt have the message that it is supposed to have if Kong Lived. It really is a statement on how we love beuty and purity yet we destroy it as sson as we find it. Pave the valleys!

are there an7y other writers besides Thoreau and Whitman? Poe and Emerson and Twain. Is Poe American?
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby AmericanEmpire » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 14:53:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') really think however that homosexuality is just small potatoes compared to the effects that internet porn is having on culture.


Hey, I like internet porn. I'm gonna really miss it when the net goes down for good. :lol:
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 15 Dec 2005, 15:07:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'I') am afraid to see Kong. I hate when kong is murdered. but Then it wouldnt have the message that it is supposed to have if Kong Lived. It really is a statement on how we love beuty and purity yet we destroy it as sson as we find it. Pave the valleys!

are there an7y other writers besides Thoreau and Whitman? Poe and Emerson and Twain. Is Poe American?
This version of King Kong is just as you describe it. The one in 1978 with Jessica Lange played up the erotic angle, this one doesn't do that at all. very chaste, in fact. I found the characterization of Kong to be very interesting. He was not at all like a big ape-human. Quite animal like and believable. As for writers, I don't get your question - of course there are other writers. Do you mean great American writers? Google "American Writers". You'll then find lots of those that come up in gutenberg.org where you can check them out and see if you enjoy their writing.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby 4StringSlinger » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 13:48:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'H')ey PMS! Good to have you back. I am right there with you on the alcohol only I quit smoking and started running again. The Sore knees and irritability are worthwhile trade off for the fresh air and clarity of mind.

As far as Nukes go, yeah it's possible. Just as it was possible during the Kennedy and Regan years.

If it comes, I plan to bug out from Dallas to a spot where the nearest Military base or asset is over 75 miles away(Army Ammo Depot in McCalester, OK). If my number comes up, well I've made my peace. I'll grab a lawn chair play Led Zepplin and watch the light show.


Well, well...another Dallasite. I assume you are in NoDal?

I'm in Deep Ellum myself... My BO will be south. :)
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby abbcampbell » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 13:55:03

It really is all irrelevant in the long run.

Whether it's Peak Oil or something else, we're all doomed. Everyone here will die someday, whether it's of old age, or whether it's of starvation, or whether it's of violence.

The planet is also doomed...eventually. If we don't blow it up, it will eventually wind down, be engulfed by our sun, or get sucked into a black hole somewhere.

So, with that out of the way, what *does* matter?

What matters to me is how we live the life that we have. We all get to the same destination. It's the road that counts. Enjoy the trip...it's all you have, and you'll be no worse off if you enjoy it than if you make yourself miserable.

I prefer to live my life as though I have a future. I know for a fact that one day that will be wrong...at least without getting into speculation of an afterlife...but living like there *is* a tomorrow will be right for all the days of my life except one. You can hardly find better bets.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby oowolf » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 19:31:48

"Nothing matters..." Last words of that famous Nihilist Louis B. Mayer.
This is bound to be the last thought of the super redundant.

"We blew it, Billy, we blew it." (Wyatt to Billy at the end of Easy Rider)
will probably be the final judgement of some on this site.

I'm opting for braised elk backstrap dipped in homemade/grown horseradish sauce, parsnip and salsify mashed up like potatoes, and fresh kale and wintercress from the garden (the cress is still in bloom) all washed down with a flagon or 2 of industrial strength malt liquor. I love dining on elk and beer while "La Traviata" plays on the victrola, the fire crackles, and snowflakes the size of silver dollars swirl down gently in the gloaming beyond my window.
Works for me.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 19:39:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('4StringSlinger', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'H')ey PMS! Good to have you back. I am right there with you on the alcohol only I quit smoking and started running again. The Sore knees and irritability are worthwhile trade off for the fresh air and clarity of mind.

As far as Nukes go, yeah it's possible. Just as it was possible during the Kennedy and Regan years.

If it comes, I plan to bug out from Dallas to a spot where the nearest Military base or asset is over 75 miles away(Army Ammo Depot in McCalester, OK). If my number comes up, well I've made my peace. I'll grab a lawn chair play Led Zepplin and watch the light show.


Well, well...another Dallasite. I assume you are in NoDal?

I'm in Deep Ellum myself... My BO will be south. :)


Yes I am soooo North Dallas, but I will not be lumped in as not Frisco/Plano yuppie trash. I am The Colony Middle Class Trash. Should Peak water come, I will not share my side of the Lake with those younger condisending upwardly mobile Frisco types.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 19:54:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '"')Nothing matters..." Last words of that famous Nihilist Louis B. Mayer.
This is bound to be the last thought of the super redundant.

"We blew it, Billy, we blew it." (Wyatt to Billy at the end of Easy Rider)
will probably be the final judgement of some on this site.

I'm opting for braised elk backstrap dipped in homemade/grown horseradish sauce, parsnip and salsify mashed up like potatoes, and fresh kale and wintercress from the garden (the cress is still in bloom) all washed down with a flagon or 2 of industrial strength malt liquor. I love dining on elk and beer while "La Traviata" plays on the victrola, the fire crackles, and snowflakes the size of silver dollars swirl down gently in the gloaming beyond my window.
Works for me.


"Martin, do you know what mental toughness is? Well, mental toughness is the ability to accept the fact that you're human and that you're going to make mistakes - lots of 'em - all your life. And some of them are gonna hurt people that you love very badly. But you have the guts to accept the fact that you ain't perfect. And you don't let your mistakes crush you and keep you from doing the very best that you can."-Billy Jack
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby hotsacks » Fri 16 Dec 2005, 20:49:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', '"')Nothing matters..." Last words of that famous Nihilist Louis B. Mayer.
This is bound to be the last thought of the super redundant.

"We blew it, Billy, we blew it." (Wyatt to Billy at the end of Easy Rider)
will probably be the final judgement of some on this site.

I'm opting for braised elk backstrap dipped in homemade/grown horseradish sauce, parsnip and salsify mashed up like potatoes, and fresh kale and wintercress from the garden (the cress is still in bloom) all washed down with a flagon or 2 of industrial strength malt liquor. I love dining on elk and beer while "La Traviata" plays on the victrola, the fire crackles, and snowflakes the size of silver dollars swirl down gently in the gloaming beyond my window.
Works for me.


I salute you on your choice of method for bringing a joint of elk to table.You will no doubt sear the meat with a dash of cognac before rubbing in the horseradish pate.In our day in the kitchens of the king,we used to bard the meat with sinews drawn from the animal's foreleg.You might substitute with cutlets of salt pork draped so that the fat sweats directly on the meat.The root vegetable accompaniment you have chosen is,as we say,a la point.
Quibbling over the selection of liquors,given your obvious respect for the culinary art,would be outre in a setting such as yours.I might have chosen a porter,but in these matters I am regarded more as avant garde than de rigeur.
Bon appetit.For the latecomers,the bones.
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 17 Dec 2005, 09:33:09

National Review and Peter Jackson's King Kong, in which is discussed the history of Kong movies going back to 1932. (There is even a discussion of the comic book spin-offs). Here the reviewer writes about the 70s version:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')If there was a touch of Teddy Roosevelt about the attitudes underpinning the first King Kong, so the movie that marked the franchise’s return to America in 1976 mirrored a suspicion of big business that was, along with an environmentalist subtext, hints of corruption in the White House, and refreshing honesty about the real nature of Kong’s interest in his latest blonde, very characteristic of its time. In the same way, the blonde, played by a Jessica Lange hot enough to bring Godzilla to his knees, was, in contrast to the passive Ann Darrow, an emancipated woman of the ERA era perfectly capable of telling her simian seducer what for. Hear her roar, monkey boy. More than that, the erotic attraction went both ways. Kong’s earlier sweethearts may have felt sorry for the big lunk, but that was it; with Dwan, there was, in the end, something…else. And if you think I’m wrong, just check out the look on her face when Kong, ahem, dries her off.


Definately, Jessica Lange was hot. The funniest scene in that 70s version (a Dino DeLaurentis flick) was when the 'natives' were closing the massive gate to keep Kong out. There was this huge dark log, all greased up, which had to be pushed into this sheath-like thingy to secure to door. Now, as I said, the new one is proper and chaste. Kong falls for the beautiful girl and pays the price. Special effects are amazing. Jack Black is funny. But so far, audiences aren't buying it.

National' Review's King Kong review: http://www.nationalreview.com/stuttafor ... 160834.asp
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Re: It's All Irrelevant

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 17 Dec 2005, 09:40:36

Jessica Lange in King Kong, 1976:

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