[PenultimateManStanding]

Death penalty, abortion, taxes, GNP, who wins the Super Bowl, Pensions and "Social Security" , Republicrats vs. Demicans, Specop vs. Liamj, GM vs. rails and trolleys, great taste vs. less filling, Unions vs. Management, West vs. East, Us vs. Them, Capitalism vs. Socialism, Urban vs. Rural, Rich vs. Poor, Left vs. Right, Atheists vs. Fundies, Crips vs. Bloods, suits vs. hippies, greasers vs. socies, arts and croissants vs. NASCAR, etc. None of it matters. I think maybe I'll read up on Marx. Didn't he say that mental life is determined by material position in life? How we get our food and shelter and so forth determines what we think, and so on. Every damn thing in the world is about to become irrelevant in the 'new world disorder' when we slide down the other side of the Peak. Everything will be shown to be false. Everything is a lie. Smug techies think we will think our way out of this mess; smug economists will fiddle with their formulas while the world burns; power-brokers will see the 'power' vanish in chaos. Here's the question: will they use the nukes? I think they will.

[Eli]

Pen that is why I say come on Jesus, come on Jesus, no whammy, no whammy.

I think for most of us out here are lives are 99% irrelevant. We are all far to busy and focused on things we think are important but in actuality do not matter one wit or tittle.

Right before the end I think it will go nuclear. Some where some time one country or another will be backed into a corner and they will let hell fly.

If you are sober then have a beer, if you are drunk, drink some water and go lay down and know that some how it is all going to work, it is not important that we know all the ins and outs just that "every little thing will be all right" (Bob Marley and the Whalers)

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '
')If you are sober then have a beer, if you are drunk, drink some water and go lay down and know that some how it is all going to work, it is not important that we know all the ins and outs just that "every little thing will be all right" (Bob Marley and the Whalers)

[AmericanEmpire]

Yep, the world around us is gonna go all to hell soon.

[holmes]

My point exactly. It all comes down to how close u are to your food source and what role u play in procuring it. If u are close to these REAL life reality entiities than u will have a good chance of coming out of it with a personality and a culture. the rest is fluff. tuff rural communities that have a ethos are the last stand.
As it stands now we are shelf clones. Its on th shelf always. It has made us dependent and weak. So far detached its becomiong hard to tell if we are human still or are on our way out. we sure are parasitic consumers. T Its all just entertainment 100 percent dependent on cheap energy. oil has allowed it and its a one shot deal. We had our shot in the evolution timeframe. anything that comes after this if human will be based around the seasons. if there are any seasons after we collapse the biome.

But there really is no other way as of now due to the immense swarm that has been created. Once these swarms are unleashed and deprived that will be the actual "fall".

[PrairieMule]

Hey PMS! Good to have you back. I am right there with you on the alcohol only I quit smoking and started running again. The Sore knees and irritability are worthwhile trade off for the fresh air and clarity of mind.

As far as Nukes go, yeah it's possible. Just as it was possible during the Kennedy and Regan years.

If it comes, I plan to bug out from Dallas to a spot where the nearest Military base or asset is over 75 miles away(Army Ammo Depot in McCalester, OK). If my number comes up, well I've made my peace. I'll grab a lawn chair play Led Zepplin and watch the light show.

[leal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'I')f you are sober then have a beer, if you are drunk, drink some water and go lay down and know that some how it is all going to work, it is not important that we know all the ins and outs just that "every little thing will be all right" (Bob Marley and the Whalers)

[Eli]

Man I would love to try it,

good beer is never irrelevant.

I am only going to have root beer tonight however. Two nights ago I had two beers and then just a little wine with dinner, but man I felt sauced.

Then yesterday my wife and I went to a wine tasting and food pairing at one of our local restaurants.

Fan flippin tastic, the dinner was

Dungeness Crab salad on Baby lettuce with white Balsamic Gorgonzola dressing

Grilled Salmon with lentils and grilled Asparagus

Prosciutto wrapped Mahi-Mahi with a fried risotto shrimp cake

Then Raspberry mousse covered in chocolate with a chocolate cookie crust for desert.

Oh and the meal came with about 4 glasses of wine served with first three course. All that for about 30 bucks each unbeatable deal.

So for the past two nights I have had too much to drink and eat for that matter, root beer it is.

[holmes]

Fuc u ya prix. LOL. I am thinking about smoking bud. What the hay. Not many "peers" and leaders I give a rats ass about. Dont really care what the players think about me, really. And I have access to some really premo private home brew stash shit. Im not sure though. im not big on altering my states. Id do it just for Pete Tosh's sake.
"I see the mark of the beast on their ugly faces. I see them congregate in evil places. I know them wicked."
fuck it, the mainstream is irrelevent.

[holmes]

Jesus Christ. we have some goddamn chefs here at PO.com. And I thought fava beans and a nice chianti was exotic. Sweet.

[hotsacks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'M')an I would love to try it,

good beer is never irrelevant.

I am only going to have root beer tonight however. Two nights ago I had two beers and then just a little wine with dinner, but man I felt sauced.

Then yesterday my wife and I went to a wine tasting and food pairing at one of our local restaurants.

Fan flippin tastic, the dinner was

Dungeness Crab salad on Baby lettuce with white Balsamic Gorgonzola dressing

Grilled Salmon with lentils and grilled Asparagus

Prosciutto wrapped Mahi-Mahi with a fried risotto shrimp cake

Then Raspberry mousse covered in chocolate with a chocolate cookie crust for desert.

Oh and the meal came with about 4 glasses of wine served with first three course. All that for about 30 bucks each unbeatable deal.

So for the past two nights I have had too much to drink and eat for that matter, root beer it is.

[Eli]

Hotstacks
you are right on about the Prosciutto it was a little dry, and the Mahi was a little over done but damn it was all good. Fish is really hard to get just right and they were totally slammed for a Tuesday night and under staffed so no point in bitching. It would have worked if it was just taken off the grill 1 or 2 minutes sooner.

30 bucks for four course and four glasses of wine you just can't beat it.

Believe it or not we had a Penfolds Shiraz with the Mahi it paired up very well, it was a very meaty dish. We had a really good Riesling from Yulumba Riesling vineyards that had a ton of citrus and grapefruit and was very dry, very much different from a typical German Riesling with the salad.

And agreed nothing is irrelevant when it comes to food.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '
')And agreed nothing is irrelevant when it comes to food.

[holmes]

PMS i watched a movie last night ( the horror of it all!) the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. It was a wonderful movie that made me cry a bit. Jim carrey is a good actor. i liked him in the truman show and the majestic too. Humanistic movies get me in the heart. I know u dig movies and music. for some reason the sickness of the world has been making me very sad lately. what is going on?

[Schweinshaxe]

PMS,

11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.


"PI", by Darren Aronofsky. Buy it. Watch it. Try to understand what's actually said and explained. (I'm still trying). Forget the religious part of it. Focus on the "spiral".

Viel Spass.

[PenultimateManStanding]

A nice grab bag, a potpourri, a hodgepodge of anything whatever, that's what this thread is. That's fine. I guess Marx is out of the question; his prose, albeit from another century and another language, is hard to follow:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he heroes, who ever seek to refute their established
incompetence by mutually bestowing their sympathy upon one another and
by pulling together, had packed their satchels, taken their laurels in
advance payments and were just engaged in the work of getting discounted
"in partibus," on the stock exchange, the republics for which, in the
silence of their unassuming dispositions, they had carefully organized
the government personnel. The 2d of December struck them like a bolt
from a clear sky; and the 'peoples, who, in periods of timid
despondency, gladly allow their hidden fears to be drowned by the
loudest screamers, will perhaps have become convinced that the days are
gone by when the cackling of geese could save the Capitol.

[Eli]

I have no idea what the hell he was trying to say.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')O CAPTAIN! my Captain! our fearful trip is done;
The ship has weather’d every rack, the prize we sought is won;
The port is near, the bells I hear, the people all exulting,
While follow eyes the steady keel, the vessel grim and daring:
But O heart! heart! heart!
O the bleeding drops of red,
Where on the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.


O Captain! my Captain! rise up and hear the bells;
Rise up—for you the flag is flung—for you the bugle trills;
For you bouquets and ribbon’d wreaths—for you the shores a-crowding;
For you they call, the swaying mass, their eager faces turning;
Here Captain! dear father!
This arm beneath your head;
It is some dream that on the deck,
You’ve fallen cold and dead.



My Captain does not answer, his lips are pale and still;
My father does not feel my arm, he has no pulse nor will;
The ship is anchor’d safe and sound, its voyage closed and done;
From fearful trip, the victor ship, comes in with object won;
Exult, O shores, and ring, O bells!
But I, with mournful tread,
Walk the deck my Captain lies,
Fallen cold and dead.

Walt Whitman (1819–1892). Leaves of Grass

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', '
')I like this thread it is all irrelevant.

[hotsacks]

Whitman would undoubtedly have preferred his fish fresh from Fulton's,sauteed meuniere,with perhaps the merest whisper of a clam souris.
Thius fortified,he would have been weel prepared to chase young men around Long Island Sound.

[Eli]

That reminds me has anyone seen that new movie "Back Door Mountain"?