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Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 06:24:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', '
')You're forgetting a basic principle of finance. If you are going to borrow money, borrow a whole lot. Then the lender is your hostage. Prepare for the invasion, parranoyd. If you hide far enough out in the outback, they may never find you.


"The fundamental ..." Oh, ho ho ho ho ... I guess it's ... ah, ow! hahaha ... like the fundamental law of alcoholism, heh: "To avoid hangovers, stay drunk!" ... Bwahahaha! ....

Outside the world of barflys the fundamental law of finance is "Buy low, sell high". But you sold your land for just beads and paper. The beads are phosphors lit with that hypnotic light you can't stop watching. The paper is fiat created by the bullshit bank - 96% of the US trillions backed by promises to exchange for nothing but more paper. Well should it say "In God We Trust" ... cause there's nothin' else holdin' it up!

Haha-eck! Heh ... oogh ... I'm coughin' up a lung here ...

Nixon went to China, floated the USD, and sold his people down the river. The Chinese know barbarians all have a price. And now America has forfeited all that counts to the Chinese - your technological secrets, your cultural integrity, control of your land, and your moral compass - all depend now on the tender mercy of "Dr Fu Manchu".

The fundamental law of finance is buy low, sell high. What do you have left to sell? Your physical exertion and that of your children. The rest has gone for a song. Fifty years ago you held the industrial whip and turned the Eastern bloc into willing slaves. Now the Chinese own the industry. Beaver Cleaver never asked where the floating money dance led - but it leads down to the river like Hamelin's rats.

As for Australia, no worries - the Commonwealth has traded gently with Chinese for 500 years. They're good neighbours bar the Great Game, not bloody sado-masochists like you with your whips and hoods. Better than 3,000 years ago the greatest Chinese philosopher, Lao Tse, wrote,

"Conquest is a means of union. So when a large nation conquers a small nation, both submit. The small submits to gain comfort. The large submits to gain service."

If your leaders knew that you'd hold both Iraq and Vietnam! Unlike you paranoid xenophobes the Chinese know how to conquer and how to keep their conquests viable. It was so easy for them in Vietnam! Compare their record there with what you did instead! Or compare their record in Hong Kong with yours in Cuba!

Like Hong Kong and Vietnam, Australia creates excellent teachers, engineers and managers. The Chinese would no sooner waste such precious resource than the uranium, oil, coal, iron, NG and bauxite in the Australian ground. Australia has stable social systems - what profits the Chinese to disrupt them? Australia is doing a fine job exporting its bottomless resources to China. Why fight a war just to throttle the supply? China will stay its hand and reap the rewards.

Even if they doubt their control the Chinese still need not lift a finger. They just extend credit to us, same as they do to you, and we fall over ourselves for the privilege. Why not? What benefit did your paranoid American empire offer that the calculating Chinese does not?

The fundamental law of finance is "buy low, sell high". But your greatest philosopher, P.T. Barnum wrote the American corollary: "There's another sucker born every minute".

Haw haw haw! Erk. Ahem. Oh, my sides. I haven't last so hard since J. Edgar Hoover shot JFK.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Specop_007 » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 07:50:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', '
')The neocons are not fools and they are not done by any means. The chaos in Iraq is not failure, it is success. The US/Britain/Israel wanted civil war in Iraq and engineered the car bombings to create it. Now that Iraq is a failed state, it can be looted at will with muscle supplied by mercenaries and airpower from the four giant US bases being built in the desert.


And let me tell you how much I'm enjoying that Iraqi oil. Its just great filling my car up on stolen Iraqi oil that costs me .50 cents a gallon......

Looting the oil my ass.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Daryl » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 08:24:51

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Like Hong Kong and Vietnam, Australia creates excellent teachers, engineers and managers. The Chinese would no sooner waste such precious resource than the uranium, oil, coal, iron, NG and bauxite in the Australian ground.


The Chinese need Australia's renowned brainpower.......right.

About the only thing we've learned from your posts is that Australia allows internet access to the inmates of their mental institutions.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 08:38:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', '
')About the only thing we've learned from your posts is that Australia allows internet access to the inmates of their mental institutions.


You gotta admit, it beats making 'em president.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Daryl » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 10:24:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', ' ')
3,000 years ago the greatest Chinese philosopher, Lao Tse, wrote,

"Conquest is a means of union. So when a large nation conquers a small nation, both submit. The small submits to gain comfort. The large submits to gain service."


from http://www.fatherryan.org/holocaust/Tibet/history.htm

For 48 years, China has occupied Tibet. In Tibet's history, there has been over 17 percent of the Tibetan people killed, and 6,000 monasteries ruined...........The Chinese invaded Tibet in July of 1949. They caused many disasters and much sadness to the Tibetan people. Today Tibet is nothing but a prison. The Chinese continually spy on the Tibetan people. Seventeen percent of the Tibetan population was killed. Many Chinese forcibly removed Tibetans out of their homes at any time, day or night, and sometimes these people were thrown into prison. These people also were often killed for no reason. Ever since the Chinese have taken over the Tibetan people, there have been over 1 millon people killed. There were 6 million Tibetans living in Tibet before the Chinese came and took over the country. In the capital of Tibet, Lhasa, the natives of Tibet are being rid of by the Chinese; the Chinese are filling up Lhasa with Chinese people and the Chinese want to make Tibet throughly Chinese. Today, the Tibetan people are a minority in their own country! All the better jobs go to the Chinese people living in Tibet. The Tibetan people cannot find jobs for themselves, the best job sometimes they can get is to become a truck driver.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 16:50:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', 'T')he Tibetan people cannot find jobs for themselves, the best job sometimes they can get is to become a truck driver.


Oh, the Chinese are not angels. But what did Tibet offer them? A bunch of prayer wheels and a lot of political subversion. Check out Hong Kong to see the flipside. Play ball with the Chinese, they play ball with you.

So likewise for the lucky country: http://smh.com.au/news/national/commodi ... 05914.html - heh.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Daryl » Mon 12 Dec 2005, 17:36:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', 'T')he Tibetan people cannot find jobs for themselves, the best job sometimes they can get is to become a truck driver.


Oh, the Chinese are not angels. But what did Tibet offer them? A bunch of prayer wheels and a lot of political subversion. Check out Hong Kong to see the flipside. Play ball with the Chinese, they play ball with you.

So likewise for the lucky country: http://smh.com.au/news/national/commodi ... 05914.html - heh.


I don't know, Parnnoyed, I see you more as a John Conner type character from the Terminator movies. Disappearing into the outback to prepare for the future invasion, emerging as the proud brave leader of the resistance to the evil Chinese occupation, defying the odds to liberate your countrymen from their sinister overlords. The greatest hero/pariot in Australian history. Just kidding you, buddy. G'day mite.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 06:06:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', '
')I don't know, Parnnoyed, I see you more as a John Conner type character from the Terminator movies. Disappearing into the outback to prepare for the future invasion, emerging as the proud brave leader of the resistance to the evil Chinese occupation, defying the odds to liberate your countrymen from their sinister overlords. The greatest hero/pariot in Australian history. Just kidding you, buddy. G'day mite.


Of course you do, dear boy. Your culture has turned into a feedback howl, the same images over and over. How else can you see the world but through some schlock flick? If I wasn't the robot of your dreams I'd be a jedi knight or a buffy vampire or some other pop icon. That's the main thing Orwell missed: to an illiterate people, propaganda is the repetition of images, not words.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Specop_007 » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 10:26:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', ' ')

Like Hong Kong and Vietnam, Australia creates excellent teachers, engineers and managers. The Chinese would no sooner waste such precious resource than the uranium, oil, coal, iron, NG and bauxite in the Australian ground.


The Chinese need Australia's renowned brainpower.......right.

About the only thing we've learned from your posts is that Australia allows internet access to the inmates of their mental institutions.


Well, if you want to get down to brass tacks, Australia was a penal colony. Therefore one could argue Australia allows internet access to all the criminals on the island.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Revi » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 13:26:23

Isn't all anglophone culture in trouble? We have some resources left, but not enough to keep ourselves in the style to which we've become accustomed. The US has arable land, Australia has nat gas, the UK has some connections to its former colonies. Maybe it's enough if we shrink our energy consumption and stop fighting useless wars. Maybe...
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 17:29:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', 'W')ell, if you want to get down to brass tacks, Australia was a penal colony. Therefore one could argue Australia allows internet access to all the criminals on the island.


Um, America was not a penal colony? Seems like someone slept through history class. The British used America as their penal colony. Maybe 50,000 transportees wound up as "indentured servants" this way.

Then again we're all descended from cannibal apes. Kubrick got it right ...

As for conserving ... well, what is it we Australians are supposed to conserve? What do you think we're running out of? Beer nuts, maybe?
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Revi » Tue 13 Dec 2005, 21:39:42

Arable land. Read the new Limits to Growth, or One With Nineveh.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 08:04:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'A')rable land. Read the new Limits to Growth, or One With Nineveh.


What are you trying to do, kill me with laughter? Read http://www.answers.com/topic/agriculture-in-australia

Look, you yanks are screwed because you have no more fuel, food, credit, manufacturing, or friends in the world. Australia has all those things, so it's a fine place to sit back and have a good chuckle at your expense. Say what you like, I know you wish you were down here rather than up there.

To put it in terms your video generation might get, to me your country looks like Wiley Coyote running in mid-air just a couple dozen feet past the end of the cliff. Wild eyes, pointed teeth, a defeated predator holding up a little sign that reads, "OH SHIT!"

Meep Meep! Bwahahahah!
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Revi » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 09:06:05

I'm glad things are so rosy down under.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Daryl » Wed 14 Dec 2005, 12:41:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', '[') to me your country looks like Wiley Coyote running in mid-air just a couple dozen feet past the end of the cliff. Wild eyes, pointed teeth, a defeated predator holding up a little sign that reads, "OH SHIT!"

Meep Meep! Bwahahahah!


So now we know how you spend you afternoons at the asylum! Watching cartoons! Maybe you could provide us with the contact information for the administrators there. They need to keep you away from the Foster's.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Parannoyed » Tue 20 Dec 2005, 08:49:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Daryl', 'S')o now we know how you spend you afternoons at the asylum! Watching cartoons! Maybe you could provide us with the contact information for the administrators there. They need to keep you away from the Foster's.


Eh? You still here? For a start, Fosters isn't fit for bladders. And the stuff you get is Canadian for beer anyway. If you don't believe that, go read the label.

As for the ad hominem, I fart in your general direction. Go read http://www.financialsense.com/Market/wi ... /0316.html and try to sleep at night, podean.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Revi » Tue 20 Dec 2005, 11:46:44

Sorry I got you so worked up. We're all aware of the situation here. The US is in trouble. Us little people have very little control over anything.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby ALBY » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 14:44:47

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Fosters, it's Australian for Bud...
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Geko45 » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 16:38:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', 'U')m, America was not a penal colony?

Well, not exactly. All the criminals in England that were dumb enough to get caught got sent to Australia, all the ones that were smart enough to get away escaped to America. So I guess we're all crooks, it’s just that Americans are a better class of crooks.
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Re: Peak Oil & Death Rattle of US of A.

Unread postby Daryl » Wed 04 Jan 2006, 17:40:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Parannoyed', '[') Fosters isn't fit for bladders.


Now you're on the right track. Stick to subjects you know something about, like alcohol.
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