[Eotyrant]

Having just heard about peak oil (yes, which rock have I been living under all this time?) my first reaction was obviously shock, largely at the total ineffectiveness of alternative fuel sources - I always thought they'd be the 'back door' out.

However, since I'm something of an absurdist, this really doesn't contradict my worldview - I always knew society was a load of bemusingly meaningless bull, this just puts it into perspective. Oh well, better brush off my Ray Mears survival books...

Oh, and as an aside, whilst I'm sure this will do sweet fanny adams overall, has any consideration been put into drilling what little antarctic reserves there are?

[Guest]

Yes, it can come as a bit of a shock.

But alternate fuels are not as ineffective as they might seem at first glance. But ofcourse we need the time and the political will to scale them up, wherin lies the nub of the problem.

[Jake_old]

Ray Mears is great isn't he?

Are you saying you discovered peak oil just this minute and are ok about it

I'd like to not drill ANWR but I think we are going to.

[FireJack]

When oil starts hitting $200 a barrel they'll drill though your grandma's living room if they think there's oil there, just don't get in the way.

[Eotyrant]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FireJack', 'W')hen oil starts hitting $200 a barrel they'll drill though your grandma's living room if they think there's oil there, just don't get in the way.

[PWALPOCO]

Eotyrant

Welcome to the reality of it all !!

I was kind of gutted when I found out about PO too. I guess its similar to being the condemned man , knowing that times almost up. It is sort of liberating in a way , knowing that some of the more long term problems you might of thought you needed to worry about , are no worry at all.

My entire outlook on life , and the "meaning" of everything around me has changed. And now that Im aware of PO , I wonder how I never saw it before ! All the business pages are screaming the obvious , we cant get at the black stuff fast enough !!


Paul

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eotyrant', 'H')aving just heard about peak oil (yes, which rock have I been living under all this time?) my first reaction was obviously shock, largely at the total ineffectiveness of alternative fuel sources - I always thought they'd be the 'back door' out.

However, since I'm something of an absurdist, this really doesn't contradict my worldview - I always knew society was a load of bemusingly meaningless bull, this just puts it into perspective. Oh well, better brush off my Ray Mears survival books...

Oh, and as an aside, whilst I'm sure this will do sweet fanny adams overall, has any consideration been put into drilling what little antarctic reserves there are?

[Eotyrant]

Thanks!

[Cobra_Strike]

I have yet to get to the point were I feel better, but I am a n00b at this point really....I just hope that I can get through any coming crisis without having too hard of a time.

[Guest]

If you feel lonely or sad, this will cheer you up for abit.......

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[aldente]

Isn't the most surprising aspect of becomming aware of PO waking up the next morning and it is still there!!!

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

That is by far the best aknowledgement of PO I've ever seen. And by a fellow countryman aswell. Excellent.


"The alternatives are not as ineffective as they first seem"

No, I'm afraid they very much are when you're talking about industrial civilisation.

Take a wee peek back through history at other civilisations from the past (obviously non-industrial), thats' what things look like when run on renewables (run on cycles, not stocks.. to borrow an excellent MQ line.)

PS. Ray is one of the best guys alive.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', '
')Take a wee peek back through history at other civilisations from the past (obviously non-industrial), thats' what things look like when run on renewables.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Knowledge is not energy, and farm labour is the backbone of any civilisation.

Our advanced knowledge (if we don't lose it) will mean slight differences from the old ways, but NO WAY near as much as at the moment. So many things just aren't possible without access to oil, so many modern materials just become unworkable.

Don't take my word for it, go out and try to build yourself an internal combustion engine without any products made using oil, please post a photograph of your results.

[aldente]

Now, did you refer to my comment or what? I live that reality daily. In the old days this was referred to as living a "double live".

[Cobra_Strike]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', 'I')sn't the most surprising aspect of becomming aware of PO waking up the next morning and it is still there!!!

[sameu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FireJack', 'W')hen oil starts hitting $200 a barrel they'll drill though your grandma's living room if they think there's oil there, just don't get in the way.

[antspice]

i remember having had very mixed feelings last summer holiday (in the week after i red the article that woke me up). i got upset and went crying a few times, i got some relief was happy that the DNA-strands i hated would probably not exist in the future but also sad because there are thousands of people i care for, a beautiful community with a which i both hated and loved (hating as in wanting it dead). now i feel myself caught between getting loose from the community and my parents to getting to a community i love which will accept me and the neceserry actions required to survive for another 30 years. i feel torn by 2 wills of my own, to continue my daily life get a job/life/house/kids/wife/etc. and to react accordingly to PO and all of its possible consequences.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('antspice', 'i') feel torn by 2 wills of my own, to continue my daily life get a job/life/house/kids/wife/etc. and to react accordingly to PO and all of its possible consequences.

[AmericanEmpire]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he decision doesn't need to be a radical one.