[Carlhole]

New video.

It begins with the famous firemen scene again but the 2nd half of this film has a collection of witnesses on video that I haven't seen before. Worth watching!

The first half of it is what you might expect (entertaining though, thanks to music by Inner Surge). I'm wondering if these witness videos were among those testimonies recently released by FOIA.

VidLife.com

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[UIUCstudent01]

But those 'explosions' could have been air pressure 'bombs' from the collapsing tower and windows blowing out or something like that...

The explosions supposedly coming from the basement? Could be something.. maybe, maybe not.. there could have been a van loaded with explosives... but that could have been another terrorist agent...

A nice little conspiracy montage... Except, I think there are better videos of controlled demolitions than those shown that may look more like the 9-11 fall... (The videos of the controlled demolitions aren't that convincing..)

[Carlhole]

Logic, data connect U.S. to 9/11 - Oct.25 , 2005 issue
http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/showarticle. ... leid=48923

“I can state: The planning of the attacks was technically and organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four huge airplanes within a few minutes and within one hour, to drive them into their targets, with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry.”

—Former German Minister of Technology, Andreas Von Buelow, Jan. 13, 2002.

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Two More WTC Workers Come Forward, One Seriously Burned And The Other Hurt While Trapped In Basement Elevator, Both Claiming Massive Explosion Took Place In Lower Levels Of North Tower On 9/11
The two men's eye-witness testimony, never before released in America, aired as part of a Spanish 2002 television 9/11 documentary in Colombia; Total of four eye-witnesses have now surfaced, all claiming a bomb exploded in the basement of the north tower just prior to airplane strike 90 floors above. Although testimony is in the public eye, it has been completely ignored by 9/11 Commission and mainstream media.in what looks like a government cover-up aided by a media blackout.
13 Jul 2005

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/ar ... /29110.htm

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')omplicated flight maneuvers

[Carlhole]

"Complicated flight maneuvers" most likely refers to the complicated spiral decent of the Pentagon plane.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('source', 'F')ormer Vietnam Combat and Commercial Pilot Firm Believer 9/11 Was Inside Government Job; An Experienced Boeing 757/767 Pilot, He Says 'No Way' Could a Novice Fly the 'Big Birds' He Knew So Well
Russ Wittenberg says America has turned into a police state with martial law on the immediate horizon. He said Americans need to 'wake-up' before it's too late and all constitutional rights are stripped away.
17 Jul 2005

By Greg Szymanski

There was no fooling former Air Force and commercial pilot Russ Wittenberg the morning of 9/11. He knew it was an inside job from the get-go, knowing the ‘big boys’ were up to the same dirty tricks they played in the Kennedy assassination and Pearl Harbor.

The government may have fooled millions of Americans with its cockamamie official story, but the former fighter pilot who flew over 100 combat missions in Vietnam and who sat for 35 years in the cockpit for Pan Am and United, wasn’t one of them.

[Jeremiah]

For what its worth, I think Ruppert was probably on to something, too. Cool video. People will be wondering about those attacks for decades

Here's another video one that was shown in Europ last month. Von Bulow is on it and a British member of Parliament, too.

http://www.tweevandaag.nl/index.php?mod ... sid=29882#

[BabyPeanut]

J. H. Kunstler wrote in Home From Nowhere, 1996, Chapter 11, My Hometown: A Reconsideration, concerning NYC

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')ndustrialism spurred New York's most robust phase of development, and in the technology-mad twentieth century the city grew into a bloated, soaring colossus. I personally believe that the city's scale can and will be reduced. It was probably necessary for mankind's collective ego to prove that such tall buildings as the Empire State and World Trade Center towers could be built, but it seems to me that the distortions of population density these monsters produce aren't worth it. They overload neighborhoods and strain the infrastructure. It is hard to say what an optimum building size might be there--Paris produces a very agreeable metropolitan density at about six stories. Perhaps New York would thrive at twelve stories. I don't have an exact figure and I don't suppose anyone else does. We have not yet seen any really big buildings taken down, but I believe that time will come in the next century when such demolitions will become routine...

[Carlhole]

They WERE pretty ugly. They unbalanced the skyline horribly. They were obviously, distastefully phallic. But that's not the point.

[BabyPeanut]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')hey WERE pretty ugly. They unbalanced the skyline horribly. They were obviously, distastefully phallic. But that's not the point.

[Carlhole]

Ok, I give up...what did you mean?

You're suggesting this was significant?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('source', 'b')ut I believe that time will come in the next century when such demolitions will become routine...

[Jeremiah]

Carlhole, I kind of agree that something smalls bad about 911 but people don't really care about it. People don't car about it--I think you're beating a dead horse on this board. I like to read the posts over at YBBS which sometimes mentions oil politics, too. Just my 2 cents. Saw this over there today, check it out.

MILLIONAIRE OFFERS $1,000,000 TO ANYONE WOULD CAN MATHEMATICAL PROVE THAT EXPLOSIVES WEREN'T USED IN ANY OF THE BUILDINGS!!

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6031

http://reopen911.org/Contest.htm

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jeremiah', 'C')arlhole, I kind of agree that something smells bad about 911 but people don't really care about it. People don't care about it--I think you're beating a dead horse on this board.

[Omnitir]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
')Should we get to the point where we're thinking of using our useless airliners to pull down our unsustainable architecture, I'll make the prediction that we'll have to use carefully placed explosives instead, no matter how good the remote control is.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Omnitir', '
')
Though personally I’m sick of all the conspiracy crap. There’s much more serious things to worry about that are right in the open for all to see – like oil depletion.

[gnm]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', '
')I never got this. Maybe it's because I'm not a pilot.. but I think it would be pretty easy to steer planes into buildings... since they had a 'crash-course' (ha ha) in flying planes, I think they covered midflight steering...

And, then it's not so hard to look at flight times and say, "lets buy tickets for those times, and hijack them". It's not so hard to organize that...

The statement doesn't seem to prove anything...

The 4 witnessess could be lying or misinterpreting something for a bomb... or there could have been another terrorist in the basement or whatever.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', 'T')here is that little matter of getting NORAD to stand down for a couple hours so thier F-16's didn't take your terrorist ass out before you could get 200 miles...-G

[Jeremiah]

I saw this on ybbs today. A pre-view of Ruperts new DVD.

DENIAL STOPS HERE: From 9-11 to Peak Oil and Beyond
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/DenialPreview.shtml

Somebody on ybbs said Rupert was an old Friend of Bill, if ya know what i mean. I wonder if he's been hittin the sauce again. Sounds like he's out to save the world but just comes off like a JimJones wingnut.