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The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 14:08:27

Damn the Torpedos - Full Steam Ahead!
U.S. to nearly double square footage currently built to date (300Bn SF to 500Bn SF in 25 years) in a $25 TRILLION real estate boom!

I'm so excited! Where do I sign up? :roll:


Link to CNN Money article + map of 10 'Megapolitan' areas

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')size=150]The $25 trillion land grab
Ten megapolitans are poised for a boom that, by 2030, will dwarf America's post WWII buildout.[/size]
October 28, 2005: 1:00 PM EDT
By Paul Kaihla and Krysten Crawford, Business 2.0

NEW YORK (Business 2.0) - There has been an impressive amount of construction in the United States over the last three centuries: All told, we've built more than 300 billion square feet of homes, offices, factories and other structures.

But according to new studies from the Brookings Institution and Virginia Tech urban planning professor Robert Lang, we're about to pick up the pace -- it will take just 25 years to erect the next 200 billion square feet, which we'll need to accommodate 70 million more people and to replace homes and offices erased by everything from disasters like Hurricane Katrina to plain old obsolescence.

If you think the real estate boom of the past decade was bounteous, peek a little further over the horizon: Researchers estimate that the massive buildout will constitute a $25 trillion development market by 2030, more than twice the size of the U.S. economy today. According to Lang, the bulk of that money will flow into 10 major metro regions that he has christened "megapolitans."

Here are exclusive growth forecasts for each of these regions and -- based on interviews with dozens of regional planners, developers and investors -- identified the savviest angles to play in the near and long term.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby LogicMan » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 14:54:11

Cool, where can I get some of THEIR acid?
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby bruin » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 18:10:48

I was about to post this thing. No where does it mention the need to double everything else going to these homes.

Of course it all makes sense when you look at the exponential function. We just keep doubling every 25 years or so until ?
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby cube » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 20:04:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LogicMan', 'C')ool, where can I get some of THEIR acid?
LMAO! I don't know what that guy is smoking but it must be some pretty strong stuff. Would you take financial advice from this person? 8)

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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 20:29:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LogicMan', 'C')ool, where can I get some of THEIR acid?
LMAO! I don't know what that guy is smoking but it must be some pretty strong stuff. Would you take financial advice from this person? 8)

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Gee, I thought the entire WEestern World wuz already taking financial advice from this type of fellow.

Hmmm, you mean to say there's someone else....more drugged out than him?

Uh....who?
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby benzoil » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 20:30:55

This piece is the cover story of the latest issue of Business 2.0 magazine. I used to respect Business 2.0. Still, I expect to put this issue next to my framed copy of Wired's "The Long Boom" issue, which predicted a 25 year economic boom about a year before the whole dot-com implosion.

I only hope that I have a full year before this loopy prediction is proven false as well.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby Synergist » Fri 28 Oct 2005, 23:56:15

Apparently they will build these trillion dollars worth of new houses of out of magical Yergin blocks.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby frankthetank » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 00:56:36

The population is going up in this country.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '_')There was a total of 4,115,590 births in the country in 2004, up from 4,089,950 in 2003.

_Births to whites declined by nearly 18,000 while Hispanics were up 32,000, there was an increase of more than 8,000 in births to Asians and a rise of just 72 births among black women.

_The total birth rate was 14.0 per 1,000 women, down from 14.1 in 2003.


I really hope i'm still here to watch this 25 trillion being spent over the next many years.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby Synergist » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 01:07:47

The first country that turns around and says, No, we don't want more population, we don't want more immigrants, we don't have sustainable resources for the people we have today. is going to have a chance of thriving in the end.

Only fools are opening their borders now. Utter fools.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 01:12:03

I saw the cover of the magazine, it's shows a mass of development in the middle of the desert.

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Megapolitans: The scorge of the Earth

Unread postby Novus » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 11:19:37

First there were Suburbs, then there were Exurbs, and now the Megapolitan. Here is what the mega growth capitalists envision for the future. If the sheeple don't get their Megapolitan paradice they will vote the Nazis. Err I mean republicans so they can kill all the greedy Arabs, or all the Jews, or all the somethings as long as they get their megapolitan. And if they get do get there megapolitan in 25 year they will demand three more. That is the insanity of growth.

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Ten megapolitans are poised for a boom that, by 2030, will dwarf America's post WWII buildout.

There has been an impressive amount of construction in the United States over the last three centuries: All told, we've built more than 300 billion square feet of homes, offices, factories and other structures.

But according to new studies from the Brookings Institution and Virginia Tech urban planning professor Robert Lang, we're about to pick up the pace -- it will take just 25 years to erect the next 200 billion square feet, which we'll need to accommodate 70 million more people and to replace homes and offices erased by everything from disasters like Hurricane Katrina to plain old obsolescence.

If you think the real estate boom of the past decade was bounteous, peek a little further over the horizon: Researchers estimate that the massive buildout will constitute a $25 trillion development market by 2030, more than twice the size of the U.S. economy today. According to Lang, the bulk of that money will flow into 10 major metro regions that he has christened "megapolitans."
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby KiddieKorral » Sat 29 Oct 2005, 11:22:33

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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Mon 31 Oct 2005, 04:37:29

I wonder what the residents of these "megapolitans" are expected to be doing for a living? Selling each other insurance policies and dog-sitting services?
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby shakespear1 » Mon 31 Oct 2005, 13:29:27

My recent trip to Boise, ID and Houston says that this crazy trend is true. I saw more bulding going on then ever before in my life. MacMansion is the current American Dream.

THIS IS ALL JUST AMAZING :roll:
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby Chaparral » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 05:14:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('shakespear1', 'M')y recent trip to Boise, ID and Houston says that this crazy trend is true. I saw more bulding going on then ever before in my life. MacMansion is the current American Dream.

THIS IS ALL JUST AMAZING :roll:


I've thought the same thing. Then I remembered a little bit of history-like what the New York skyline was doing a year or three after the crash of 1929. RE is a lagging indicator and many developers who are gathering parcels or breaking ground today will be losing their shirts three years from now when their projects are completed.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby falser » Thu 03 Nov 2005, 14:07:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chaparral', 'I')'ve thought the same thing. Then I remembered a little bit of history-like what the New York skyline was doing a year or three after the crash of 1929. RE is a lagging indicator and many developers who are gathering parcels or breaking ground today will be losing their shirts three years from now when their projects are completed.


Indeed, meanwhile all the executives of homebuilder companies and real estate firms are still saying "business is great, sky's the limit" and then turn around are cashing in their stock options:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/04/news/mi ... tocksales/

I wonder if they mention this to people investing McMansions.
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Re: The $25 TRILLION land grab - What to expect come 2030...

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 03 Nov 2005, 15:00:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('falser', '
')Indeed, meanwhile all the executives of homebuilder companies and real estate firms are still saying "business is great, sky's the limit" and then turn around are cashing in their stock options:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/04/news/mi ... tocksales/

I wonder if they mention this to people investing McMansions.


Meanwhile, check out all the semantics games being played when trying to assess if there actually is a housing bubble:

Bubbly, not a bubble, for Sarasota's real estate boom

Bursting the housing bubble's bubble

NAR Sees Soft Landing as Housing Bubble Transitions To Expansion

Jiminy Cricket Syndrome:
(kudos to Kunstler)
North Carolina Homeowners Don’t Want Housing Bubble Burst

[URL=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/26/AR2005102602255.html]
Bernanke: There's No Housing Bubble to Go Bust[/URL]


Bernanke's doublespeak:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')But these increases, he said, "largely reflect strong economic fundamentals"...


but, in the next breath:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')House prices are unlikely to continue rising at current rates," said Bernanke, who served on the Fed board from 2002 until June. However, he added, "a moderate cooling in the housing market, should one occur, would not be inconsistent with the economy continuing to grow at or near its potential next year."


So, strong growth justifies the price increases, but market could cool if strong growth continues as anticipated. :roll:

And, the topper of them all, one euphemism I heard on Today this morning:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here isn't necessarily one nationwide housing bubble, but rather many smaller bubbles in hot markets across the country.


Can we say 'can't see the forest for the trees?' :o
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