[MattSavinar]

New Book Touts Abiotic Oil

Discuss: link (Note to moderators: not sure whether to post this here or in book reviews, as I don't think the book is out yet). AVAILABLE OCTOBER 2005 MQ

[EnergySpin]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'D')iscuss: http://www.cumberlandhouse.com/wndbooks ... ckgold.asp

[bobaloo]

I like the part about how the oil is brought to the surface by the centrifugal forces of the earth's rotation...

Funny, I haven't noticed much other stuff running up hill from all the spinning.

[Blueberry]

Hey, cetrifugal force isn't somthin' to mess with dood - it cud happin.

Oh -- and let the Scapegoating BEGIN!!

[MicroHydro]

EXCELLENT!

I plan to start an abiotic oil exploration company and sell OTC shares on ragingbull.com. Our exploration will be guided by the bible code and can not fail. This book will be great help for my stock sales.

[mididoctors]

sourcewatch.org is handy at times how reliable I know not...

make up your own mind.

Boris
london

[bobcousins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')raig R. Smith is president of Swiss America Trading Corporation, one of the largest and most respected investment-grade coin firms in the U.S. since 1982 and author of a newly released book on economics, Rediscovering Gold in the 21st Century.

[dinopello]

I just saw this guy on some cable channel (CNBC perhaps?). He was basically saying gas would be $4 a gallon soon and the solution is to remove environmental restrictions on drilling and refining. Similar to this article

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-gas17.html

[Diesel-Dan]

Think about all the off shore oil drilling....... hhhhhhm Ok how many trees and dinosaurs lived and died at the bottom of the sea .... to make all that oil they pump out ....???? ever hear that Oil is made by Dead Fish ...??? No ....Well?

Use your head people .. think for yourself Fosil Fuel ??? Not .... it is all about Money Money Money ..... Nothing else I would more believe that the oil is the Black heart of greed than that of dead animals .....

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'N')ew Book Touts Abiotic Oil

[AndrewSchreiber]

i doubt we will see the end of oil in the next few years, and i highly doubt our earth is an oil machine. The answer, i presume, lies somewhere in the middle. From the science and politics i have read about peak out, it is pretty obvious that the earth holds alot more oil than people are letting on to believe; in places like russia, and under oceans huge reserves have been found. but i think a sadistic game is being played be the elite, oil drenched "one world governement" psychos that have a strangle hold on the majority of people in "power", that are really slaves to whatever the oilmen decide to do.

It goes deeper than oil, but the price gouging that goes on unchecked spurred by an artificial shortage that the oilmen have created is making a few selct people much much richer. No new oil refineries have been built since the early sixties, but we are constantly being hounded by the "fact" that it will run out soon. They have the energy of the world in their hand, and they are constantly dangling everyone on edge of collapse.

it takes alot more than reading an article and making fun of a persons views or his political party to truely understand any subject. The science IS faulty and any geologist would tell you their is much more oil, and that oil is not seeping up from the center of the earth. The ones that have said so will be overtook in time, because you can't force real scientific fact out of the picture forever.

[deconstructionist]

(for a version of the following complete with links to sources,
click here.

Forget Everything You Think You Know About Oil, an article in Worldnet Daily discusses a book by Jerome Cosri and Craig R. Smith where they state that oil is not a fossil fuel, oil reserves are actually growing, global warming is a hoax, alternative energy is un-economical, and other such wonderfully ignorant statements... Well, I'm not going to debunk these statements one by one (though it would be quite easy, starting with abiotic oil... and if you look back a few weeks in my blog, you will find the method that the USGS uses for reporting "proven" reserves--by averaging what is 95 percent likely to exist with what is 5 percent likely to exist...), instead I'm going to focus on who Jerom Corsi and Craig R. Smith are, who they have ties to, and what their motivation in propegating this bullshit information could be.

Jerome Corsi is, in short, a hyper-conservative with a history of connections to the Republican Party and a history of inflammatory statements against the left. He has a PhD in Political Science--yet he feels qualified to debunk the world's top geologists and thinks that those of us who know how to ask our own questions won't realize that his motivations for publishing a book protecting the culture of consumption and big-oil are completely political and have nothing to do with actual science. Jermoe Corsi was at the forefront of the movement to demozine Senator Kerry's war record in the "Swift Boat" BS where most of his primary charges were proven false. At best, he is a biased source when it comes to politics (as all he does is bash the left) and even less credible when it comes to oil...

Craig R Smith is, of course, also a conservative, and an economist by trade. His history as an author focuses on helping well-to-do people invest their money in ways that will make them more well-to-do and make those who are already more well-to-do even moreso. Not to mention True Wealth: in his words "The goal of True Wealth is to help you understand money, stewardship, and giving from a Biblical perspective." He touts Reaganomics as genius, yet of course admits that the national debt tripled under Reagan's watch. So... he's a conservative economist and it should be apparent that his recent foray into the "debunking peak oil" genre is a thinly veiled attempt at maintaining his base of hig-wealth investors who support his multitude of web sites and investment advice publications and schemes. He makes rediculous statements like this: "Each 1 cent rise in gas prices sucks $14 billion a year from consumer spending." Not only is that claim unsubstantiated, but if we break down the math, we see that it's completely rediculous. For a one cent increase in gas prices to equate to $14 billion, people would need to be using 1.4 TRILLION gallons of gasoline each year. While Americans do consume an obscene 135 Billion Gallons of gasoline per year, it shows that Smith's math is off by a factor of 10!!

Still want to trust economists with political motivations rather than scientists?

[EnviroEngr]

Follow the what?

Anyone, anyone?

[Doly]

MONEY!!!!

Money makes the world go round, the world go round, the world go round...

[nero]

I think that these authors are very much a stalking horse for the status quo establishment. Their job is to muddy the issue and associate in the minds of the public peak oil with abiotic oil. Why are they attacking peak oil and Matthew Simmons instead of the scientific establishment? The biological origin of oil has become a well established theory in geology. I don't think they are even trying to win the argument or convince anybody, simply making enough noise to confuse the public will help the status quo.

It's like an opponent hiring a heckler to dog a politician. It doesn't matter that the heckler is a moronic lout. His job is simply to disrupt the ability of the politician to get out his message.

[nth]

I don't get these people.
Let's say that oil does come from abiotic source.
How much gets produce a day?
Does it have a feedback loop, so the more we use, the more gets created?

How can he say we will never run out?

[Barlow]

Indeed, Mr Corsi was the co-author of "Unfit for Command". He's merely a propaganda writer -- and a bigot to boot.

Media Matters Link about Corsi

He also seems hell bent on getting us in war with Iran.

Iran Freedom story

[jonas]

Listen Dr. Corsi at www.radioliberty.com clk listen online and then clk show all broadcasts.

Personally I'm very grateful to Matt Savinar for bringing Peak oil to my attention but although I agree with the effects of the peak may come to pass the causes have more to do with the OPEC oil cartel than with peak oil.

I also recommend listening to alex jones and Paul Joseph watson on George Noory debunking peak oil.

I don't if I would trust Michael Rupert. The fact that he was a member of The Club of Rome is enough to question this man's motives. All the same what he predicts may very well come to be.

Henry Kissinger is quoted as saying at this years Bilderberg Group that oil will be $200 a barrel this winter.

He also said if you want to control nations, control oil, if you want to control the population, control the food supply.

Either way hard times ahead.

[PhebaAndThePilgrim]

Good day from Pheba, From the Farm:
The book "Black Gold Stranglehold" has been sitting on the New book shelf at my local library for a couple of weeks now. I was interested in the book so I did some research on the authors.
Wow, was I even more interested when I found out who they were.
Excuse me, but what kind of experience and education do two propaganda writers, one for the religous right, have on petroleum or geology?
I ignored the book for two weeks, then finally bit the bullet this evening, and checked it out. My husband had a political meeting so I sat and read the book.
What a bunch of drivel. Why is it, these people, and I mean right wing, religious fruitcakes, can't play nice?
This book is just plain nasty. They use the word "leftist" about 50 times.
They believe in more conspiracy theories than an X-Files script.
This book is a tasteless total work of fiction that defies not only science, but plain common sense.
Small minds just can not think outside of their own little world.
Dinosaurs and ancient trees did not make oil. Tiny sea plankton made oil for the most part, if you study the geology books on sedimentary deposits.
Most people just can't fathom that something so tiny could make so much oil. Just like most people can't fathom how much oil we now use, and how quickly we are consuming it. So, when some idiot writes that a source has 650 million barrels of oil, most people think that's a whole bunch, gee whiz, wowee, 650 million barrels. It would take me a million years to use that much.
Big things and little things are impossible for small minds to grasp.
Like another poster said: this book is worth reading just to gauge how humans think, or don't think, and how easily they are led.
What a bunch of nonsense.
Pheba.

[Armageddon]

DUH !!!!!

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=46888

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