[frankthetank]

I can go to a second hand type store and buy an assortment of old knives for little or nothing, most NOT made in China.

You have to sift through the junk, however.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('frankthetank', 'I') can go to a second hand type store and buy an assortment of old knives for little or nothing, most NOT made in China.

You have to sift through the junk, however.

[donshan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '
')From today's NYTimes.com
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')P-ED COLUMNIST
China's Little Green Book
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
As China grows more prosperous it must urgently adopt green technologies. Otherwise it will destroy its environment and its people.

[MrBill]

Not only that Donshan, but it is a communist country with little or no social safety net. In many cases healthcare, education and other benefits can only be had for payment. The state does treat some well. I had a friend studying here in Cyprus for 3-years on the State's dime, but I think that is rather the exception.

And, with the one child policy they ended up with a 4-2-1 paradox where one child is caring or helping to care for two parents and four grandparents. It is tearing the traditional family unit apart, there is no state apparatus to pick-up the slack.

Add-in the infirm and workers injured in industrial accidents and it is not hard to imagine a Darwinian nightmare. The very problems that communism was supposedly brought in to solve.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ill, I think you mean "loss leader"...

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')Are their workers forced to work 22 hours a day and eat soylent green (the rendered remains of the previous crew, that dropped dead from exhaustion?) I've got some serious questions about what is going on here.