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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby thuja » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 19:03:21

well cubensis is pretty underground as a growing operation- class A felony and all that- but that's what you're generally buying when you purchase "shrooms" at your local Slayer or Dave Mathews Band concert.

Anyways- the link is http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/pri ... =110007460

Man what a piece- this is Peggy frickin' Noonan writing this- bizarre...
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby Guest » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 19:05:05

I'm just intensely angry most of the day because of all the shit people put on me over petty things.

I'm not a naturally angry person, but it's bizarre to see people scream at you over something like a broken computer or a broken appliance.

It would be better not to have these things at all, than to have people screaming about them. Non-lasting things make people unhappy -- that much I see every single friggin' day.

And then they offload all their hate onto me. Day after day after day.

The truth is, stuff is made real crappy nowadays. Cheaply made junk. And I guess I should be grateful that this creates a lot of jobs for "service technicians."

And the poor people, they spend all this money to buy extra warranty protection BUT . . . but, read between the lines. There's all kinds of caveats where the warranty doesn't apply.

That's right -- you buy junk that's going to break, then you buy a warranty cause you know it's junk, but then when it breaks, if you didn't do this or didn't do that, or you were negligent for thsi reason, sorry, now pay half the cost of what you bought the thing for to have it fixed!

And I get the brunt. And the pigs on Wall Street and behind the mahogany, they created this hell for us, and they enjoy enjoy enjoy.

I used to work at a slaughterhouse. Cows and bulls just had no clue what was happening. Bang! One in the brain and they fell like a ton of bricks. Sometimes they lived through it and made a real racket.

The sheep -- they watched their brothers and sisters getting cut, and they seemed to cry. I would try to pet them, but they would turn away from me, as if to say, "Get away from me you murderer!"

But the pigs! Now they were amazing. A pig could be up on the chain, squealing while it's blood ran out just inches away, and the other pigs are just sitting there, "Oh hell, it won't EVER happen to me! They'd be licking up the blood and mounting each other, right up until I went into the corral with the long, long chain. Oh then, it was "oh please oh please oh please not me! It's NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO ME!" Oink oink oink!!!

And when I put the chain on one, the others would be like, "Hahahaha! Your turn sucker! I'll be licking your blood, humping your sow, and listening to you squeal! Sucks for you! See ya wouldn't wanna be ya!"

Yep, they reminded me of Americans for sure.
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby thuja » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 19:06:10

Man, you just put me off of eating bacon for breakfast...that wasn't nice-
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby Dukat_Reloaded » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 21:01:54

Thats very good Guest, a very entertaining quick read. I've allways wanted to get a tempory job in a slaughter house, for the main purpose to inject some real life and horror into me that will make me stronger.
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 22:35:27

Yeah, wow! 8O The bit about the pigs was chilling. Not at all like the picture in my mind from the movie Babe.

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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby AmericanEmpire » Tue 01 Nov 2005, 23:12:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you ever feel intense anger that humans aren't wise enough to see imminent demise and then scale it back a couple notches instead of going through the greatest drug withdrawal of all time- crude oil addiction?


Yeah, its pathetic we as a country should have chose to powerdown and mitigate this problem way back when Jimmy Carter warned us about it. Instead we chose and continue even now at Peak Oil to hit the exponential growth accellerator. Petal to the metal over the cliff. :cry:
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby aswerfawf » Sun 06 Nov 2005, 21:43:11

i cant wait. im really excited about the collapse of civilization. it would be so cool. i would be free to spend my life pursuing my various hobbies (most are survival related like gardening) without worrying about paying rent or bills or showing up for work ever again. it would be heaven on earth!
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby aswerfawf » Sun 06 Nov 2005, 21:55:19

one more thing, you dont have to wait for the collapse in order to start living that way. myself, im aiming for a situation where i work about 2 months a year to pay property taxes and little odds and ends while living selfsufficently and having a grand old time in THIS life.
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby Windmills » Sun 06 Nov 2005, 22:34:42

I wonder if the good old days were ever good.

It's only been less than 100 years that the majority of people have not lived rural lifestyles. Yet throughout human history, there's been plenty of crime, war, greed, famine and all the other fun stuff we see now. We just couldn't realize the grand scales until recently. Civilizations have crashed repeatedly, and we've fought wars "to end all wars," yet our history continues to be boringly predictable and repetitive.

Peak Oil transitions and Post Peak life could be fascinating in a macabre way, but I don't know if life on Earth for humans will ever be great until we get rid of the humans.

Human utopia is an oxymoron.

How's that for optimistic? He he!

I'll still hope for the best. There's been just as much good amongst the bad. I hope I can be part of the good.

I'll stop now. I'm starting to sound like Smeagol going back and forth with myself. "Leave, and never come back!"
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby aldente » Mon 07 Nov 2005, 05:59:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aswerfawf', 'i') cant wait.

Well, the discussion matter in this case is somewhat different. Somewhat between very high and extemely low mental frequency (shall we say). Before World War One young guys on either side of the various countries in Europe eventually involved in the matter were going out with the same enthusiasm that you display at this moment. And this is not to take any of the fever out of your bones, it is simply a reality check. Peak Oil is not something you want to wish for!
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby untothislast » Mon 07 Nov 2005, 10:57:45

People got by (one way or another) before we came to depend so heavily on oil - and will do so again. There'll just be a lot fewer of them around, that's all.

But those who will eventually have to reshape society, will be far more conscious of avoiding waste than we've been in the past few hundred years - having finally been forced to recognise that resources can, and will, run out. This will no doubt impact greatly on perceptions of 'true value' and 'true cost', as Matt Simmons repeatedly makes the point, when referring to the (relatively) low price of petroleum. Hopefully a more rational and sane culture will emerge out of the ashes of the old.

I'm certainly not looking at the period of transition with any degree of personal longing. But having educated my self to be content with very little (materially speaking), I think I'll adjust better psychologically than those hooked on conspicuous retail consumption to validate, and give meaning to, their existence.
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby aswerfawf » Mon 07 Nov 2005, 12:16:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '[')b]Peak Oil is not something you want to wish for!


in my case, it IS something i wish for. i accept that maybe ill be horribly disappointed like the futureists were by ww1. but right now im horribly disappointed by our civilization and what it offers. rather than pursue the future completely at the mercy of the coming changes caused by peak oil, i feel i should should take a proactive approach and find something that works right now with an eye to what will work after the collapse. because civilization does not work. i firmly believe its time to try something new.

its good to keep in mind that peak oil is only one of many catastrophes which WILL come to a head in the next 50 years, our lifetimes and our childrens lifetimes. there are 12 environmental catastrophes which include things like climate change and water avaliability and particularlly unnerving is the idea that we will convert all the energy from the sun to human purposes and that the suns energy that reaches the earth is finite. these are interesting, scarry and exciting times to be alive. we also individually and in our small groups are creating the human society that will emerge from the ruins (if we dont cause out own extinction first).
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby Atlantean_Relic » Mon 07 Nov 2005, 16:53:15

:twisted: I Can't wait to Make my victims drink moltant Gold like my Hero Genghis.


But in all seriousness I don't know wether to be Angry For having to pick up this mess of a party that I barely got to go to. Or be happy that I get to Start the planning for the new one.
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Re: Bring on Peak Oil!

Postby rogerhb » Mon 07 Nov 2005, 16:56:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'B')ut in all seriousness I don't know wether to be Angry For having to pick up this mess of a party that I barely got to go to. Or be happy that I get to Start the planning for the new one.


We're going to be dodging broken bottles for a long time, that party hasn't stopped yet.
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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