[EnviroEngr]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('L K Tucker', 'I') do not want to interrupt the discussion but you may be interested in a site that has published the cause of psychotic episodes associated with Kundalini Yoga and Qi Gong.


VisionAndPsychosis.Net is a psychology project on the Internet about a conflict of human physiology. It may help you understand the experience of the awakening of Kundalini.

http://www.VisionAndPsychosis.Net

[EnviroEngr]

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Located in Pine Mountain Club, California, in the midst of the Los Padres National Forest, we offer career and life choice coaching, counseling and online courses for creating healthier, more satisfying lives by living in harmony with our inner nature. Drawing on the principles of ecopsychology, we aspire to bring Nature's Wisdom into our daily lives... no matter where we live.

We also provide online and home-study continuing education (CE) programs and workshops for helping professionals in how to include Natures' Wisdom in their healing practices.

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[EnviroEngr]

An Introduction to Ecopsychology

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Project NatureConnect (PNC)

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International Community for Ecopsychology (ICE)

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The Ecopsychology Institute, Theodore Roszak

[Specop_007]

An interesting study in facts and lies of Communism
Red Color News Soldier
Whats interesting is that at an event held by someone WHO WAS THERE and saw the horros of Communism, there were still Berkley idiots* who would promote those beliefs!

*This is not to say all of Berkley people are idiots. But a good majority are flaming Communists or liberals.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Whats interesting is that at an event held by someone WHO WAS THERE and saw the horros of Communism, there were still Berkley idiots* who would promote those beliefs!

[Jake_old]

One central theme in communist ideology is this.

As we have intellectual awareness (enlightenment), we no longer have to live by survival of the fittest and instead can model society on a man made design.

Another is this.

That capitalism leads, innevitaby to some kind of communism.

I am sure those berkley people weren't talking about the most efficient way to silence descent, execute thought criminals, brainwash the youth.

They were probably talking about the far more simple, introductory ideas to the ideology.

Thankfully, you still have free speach, so this kind of discussion can be had. Good for the US.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '
')Whats interesting is that at an event held by someone WHO WAS THERE and saw the horros of Communism, there were still Berkley idiots* who would promote those beliefs!

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n "your" view, only a select few can be at the top, and no one else is entitled to anything.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedJake', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n "your" view, only a select few can be at the top, and no one else is entitled to anything.

[Sencha]

There's only one fact you need to know about communism: It rules.

I think part of the problem with the system's history is that it was overthought. There are simpler models that seem to be perfect examples of how the system can really work. Take for instance the following:

Star Trek

In Star Trek, there was no monetary system. You had to earn everything you got. Yet, this also envisioned a future of high living standards, ultra modern technology and equal opportunity for all. How many post-apocalyptic films or TV Shows came out that demonizes (rightfully) corporations? I think there's a reason for that, because Capitalism is going to mess us all up. I could be more thorough in that statement, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

Redwall

This is an anthropomorphic fantasy series in which the inhabitants of the series' recurring locale: Mossflower, clearly live and thrive in a simplistic socialist society. They have no:

money, class-system, elitism, worker exploitation, etc. Yet they always have an abundance of food, comfortable living situations and a happily functioning society based on a community that values everyone equally.

Now I know alot of crap happened in Communist societies, but I think thats largely due to the fact that the leaders of those countries were psychos. But to denounce the system because of the people in charge is like denouncing a car for the drunk driver that crashed it. The system deserves another chance.

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'N')o, thats completely true. Remember, equality for all.
Only the very high leaders had fancy cars and nice houses. Everyone else gets everything just the same. Rank and file, march to the same drum.

[skyemoor]

This is an interesting debate, though it doesn't have much to do with PO, so should be in Open Discussion or some other forum (or website).

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skyemoor', 'T')his is an interesting debate, though it doesn't have much to do with PO, so should be in Open Discussion or some other forum (or website).

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'a')) take the oil away from oil cos. & put it private hands;

[Jake_old]

Well MrBill, I certainly don't have an agenda here to promote one belief system over another, just like to formulate my world view.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 't')heir tried and tired arguments which have been proven not only not to work, but to have nasty side effects like persecution and repression, too.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skyemoor', 'T')his is an interesting debate, though it doesn't have much to do with PO, so should be in Open Discussion or some other forum (or website).

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', 'T')here's only one fact you need to know about communism: It rules.

I think part of the problem with the system's history is that it was overthought. There are simpler models that seem to be perfect examples of how the system can really work. Take for instance the following:

Star Trek

In Star Trek, there was no monetary system. You had to earn everything you got. Yet, this also envisioned a future of high living standards, ultra modern technology and equal opportunity for all. How many post-apocalyptic films or TV Shows came out that demonizes (rightfully) corporations? I think there's a reason for that, because Capitalism is going to mess us all up. I could be more thorough in that statement, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

[EnemyCombatant]

Capitalism, Socialism, nor Communism is the problem.

We are.

All systems can work, and work well. We are the ones who are not able to cope and live civilized.

Capitalism is my preference of course. Capitalism is not bad, greedy globalist corporations that murder and rape natural resources are the bad ones. Not capitalism.

The same analogies can be drawn for socialism and communism.

I think I could be happy under any of these systems, but only with enlightened people.

At the same time, I don't think we should be trying to formulate a utopian system that will force people to do well. People will have to do well only if they want to.

So we shouldn't try to change capitalism or communism. We have to work on changing ourselves.

Then, we could even live happily and harmoniously in anarchy if we choose.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')erhaps I'm missing the point! Is it because the USSR collapsed that you think it is tried and tired? China's still successful. Cube has been, given the problems it has faced.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnemyCombatant', 'C')apitalism, Socialism, nor Communism is the problem.

We are.

All systems can work, and work well. We are the ones who are not able to cope and live civilized.

Capitalism is my preference of course. Capitalism is not bad, greedy globalist corporations that murder and rape natural resources are the bad ones. Not capitalism.

The same analogies can be drawn for socialism and communism.

I think I could be happy under any of these systems, but only with enlightened people.

At the same time, I don't think we should be trying to formulate a utopian system that will force people to do well. People will have to do well only if they want to.

So we shouldn't try to change capitalism or communism. We have to work on changing ourselves.

Then, we could even live happily and harmoniously in anarchy if we choose.