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Unread postby GrizzAdams » Fri 14 Oct 2005, 23:15:29

How is it, that a small group of people are allowed to decide the fate of a society and those who live in it? And to repeatedly make those decisions in ways that singulary benefit those few. How is it, that people allow themselves to be fed lies, while being relagated to the role of cogs in a machine, that destroys their dignity, and yet call themselves free, and tell others who demand answers from so called leaders, that they have no right to do so.

Here is a link to a 2 hour radio program, that has some answers to these questions.

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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby k_semler » Sat 15 Oct 2005, 00:53:17

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. The truth has been kept from the depth of their minds by masters who rule them with lies. They feed them on falsehoods till wrong looks like right in their eyes."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby Dukat_Reloaded » Mon 17 Oct 2005, 22:26:40

This that about Jews?
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby rogerhb » Tue 18 Oct 2005, 00:44:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GrizzAdams', 'H')ow is it, that a small group of people are allowed to decide the fate of a society and those who live in it?


It's a scalability problem. Our brains can only cope with tribe size groupings eg upto about 150. We end up with huge hierachies where the people at the top only see a few tiers down the hierachy, they don't have to bother looking all the way down to the bottom. It would give them vertigo if they tried.
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 18 Oct 2005, 08:40:54

So it's a Monkeysphere problem?

But why do the lower monkeys seem to identify quite a bit with the super-high monkeys? Why do the middleclass so often feel the rich/elites are "helping them" or "leading them?" Because they believe they will eventually become high monkey-monks themselves?
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Unread postby Doly » Tue 18 Oct 2005, 11:15:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'W')hy do the middleclass so often feel the rich/elites are "helping them" or "leading them?" Because they believe they will eventually become high monkey-monks themselves?


I think it's because, very often, they are helping. In the sense that some people have better organizing skills than others, and those with poor organizing skills often prefer somebody else to do the organizing. In the process, of course, the organizer manages to get a nice bit for him/herself.
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby holmes » Tue 18 Oct 2005, 11:48:32

The WEAK Minded have taken over. We are forced to pay for programs and welfare that keep these cretins fed and cash in their pockets. I for one am sick and tired of it. All we get out of it is fucking resource wars to keep these creeps alive and "dictating" how "right" it all is. Build stronger defenses is the only way. They talk about Jihad. Jihads form all sides nowadays. These cretins cant even control their primal sloth lustful urges and instead grow and war.
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby GrizzAdams » Fri 21 Oct 2005, 06:22:02

Here is an article about John Taylor Gatto, an award winning teacher and author. His argument is that public schools have turned into a training grounds for a managed economy, with the process of extending childesh behavior well into the adult hood. I think many people might relate, considering the behavior of most Americans, are indeed, child like or childesh. He states the implications of public schooling vs. home schooling, and also includes some European schools.


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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby holmes » Fri 21 Oct 2005, 12:02:19

Grizz I have been looking through that and printed out some of the stuff to read at home and I agree with Gatto 100%. very good info.
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Re: Welcome to the Machine

Unread postby Teclo » Sat 22 Oct 2005, 18:44:23

Very good program, thanks 8)

The few at the top i see in terms of 'archons' of the gnostics. For them the archons seem to be spiritual beings or aliens of some kind but it symbolises out to human overlords nicely

"They brought gold and silver and a gift and copper and iron and metal and all kinds of things. And they steered the people who had followed them into great troubles, by leading them astray with many deceptions. They (the people) became old without having enjoyment. They died, not having found truth and without knowing the God of truth. And thus the whole creation became enslaved forever, from the foundation of the world until now" 100AD

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