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Proven World Oil Reserves are not a Measure of Future Supply

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Proven World Oil Reserves are not a Measure of Future Supply

Unread postby UIUCstudent01 » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 16:55:48

Here.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')onclusion and Bibliography (Part VI)
As we have seen, there is far more oil in the world than the oil reserve estimates given for the Middle East. If the Veneuelans are right, there is enough oil in Venezuela alone to power the world for 44 years (at 27.3 billion barrels of world consuption per year). Similar or greater reserves exist in the Athabasca tar sands and other unconventional reserves that push actual world reserve life well out into the 22nd century. These are not as cheap as Middle Eastern reserves, but they are not prohibitively expensive either. Nor can all of the unconventional oil be recovered. Estimates range from 15 percent upwards. On the other hand, there may be a number of these unconventional oil fields in other nations that have not been publicly characterized. For example,Russia and Madagascar may also have heavy oil fields.

The argument here is that it is a fallacy to entirely omit unconventional oil from strategic thinking.

The premise for US involvement in the Arab Middle East -- its oil wealth -- is not wrong per se. However, the idea that the Middle East is the ONLY area of the world with large oil reserves, or that US involvement is inevitable, is, rather plainly, a fallacy of staggering proportions. And the possibility of reducing the influence of oil as the center of gravity in Middle Eastern politics is, by any measure, something worth considering.

Certain conclusions may be drawn:

First, to the extent that oil reserves are a factor in Middle Eastern politics, it would be possible to greatly reduce the stakes and open some avenues to peace. US and European disengagement from oil dependency on the Middle East is not at all impossible, nor does it depend on renewable, nuclear or other alternative energy technologies with varying degrees of reliability.

Secondly, it's going to be a long time before we run out of oil. There is plenty of it in Venezuela, Canada, Russia and other parts of the world. At current consumption rates, oil reserve life will be measured in centuries. As consumers we may see this as good news. Whatever happens in the Middle East, there will be plenty of oil in the end. As people concerned about the environment, we may see it as very bad news. Oil will remain cheap for a long time, which may be long enough for serious damage from climate change. (Note: for more information on the science of climate change, see realclimate.org For more information on the oil industry's influence over climate debate, see: "The Heat is On").

Third, misinformation about future oil supply is something the media and the government have a responsibility to correct. Although the oil industry only publishes proven reserves, and this is misleading, the oil industry is also attempting to maximize protifs. It is up to the public service entities to correct this problem in the marketplace.

Finally, the "invisible hand" of the marketplace will not come to our rescue. Energy, is in the end, a political matter. We will have to rely on government, not market forecasts of oil scarcity, for limits to environmental damage and politically destabilizing dependencies.


Some points.
Not an economist. An enviromentalist. He states the unconventional reserves as a gigantic number, but in his conclusion he finally states it's only about 15 percent recoverable. (This throws his utopian first page neat-o graphs for a loop.)

Also, he seems somewhat balanced:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a 1999 Greenpeace report on Climate Change, Odell noted that "a modest 3,000 billion barrels reserve of non-conventional oil (out of an ultimate resource base more than an order of magnitude bigger) could then sustain a continued increase in world oil use beyond the middle of the 21st century on the basis of an assumption of a 2% per annum growth in demand. Under this scenario the world oil industry in the mid-21st century would be approximately three times its present size."

It's worth noting that some experts disagree with this view. Predicting that oil production will peak around 2015 - 2020, Geologist C.J. Campbell, disagrees with Adelman's thesis of a theoretically infintely elastic resource base and says resource based approach to forecasting is more accurate. Campbell does not estimate unconventional oil resources but he does estimate production from them in Canada and Venezuela peaking at only 1.5 million barrels per day.


A good portion of his bibiliography is Adelman's work......

Anybody want to comment on it? Or pick it apart? Or support his thesis?
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Re: Proven Oil Reserves are not a Measure of Future Supply

Unread postby Cool Hand Linc » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 18:53:43

Is my math wrong? or is Bill's?

Even if we have the volumes of oil FULLY recoverable. We still don't have enough for centuries.

At current rate of consuption. 84million barrels a day is what I will use. 1 billion barrels of oil would last just about 12 days. 1 trillion barrels would last 32 years. Centuries is plural. So the reserve life would be measured in centuries? Sure .32 centuries.

Here are some comparitive rates with different time intervals assuming rate of production stays constant.

84million a day
30,660 million a year
30.6 billion a year
306.6 billion in ten years
613.2 billion in 20 years
919.8 billion in 30 years
.9188 trillion in 30 years


At the rate of 84 million barrels a day. That is 30.6 billion a year. In his article he states Venezuela has enough oil to power the world for 44 years. 27.3 billion barrels. Thats less than the 30.6 billion we are currently using. So he is presenting information that doesn't mathmatically prove true! :oops: In 2003 we were using a little less oil but still 44 years vs about 1 year is a great difference. 8O

I can't take an article seriously if the arthur can't even get the math right.

Bill repeat after me. 1+1=2 :roll:
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Re: Proven Oil Reserves are not a Measure of Future Supply

Unread postby bobcousins » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 20:39:23

For a kick off, anyone using USGS figures as their database is starting with crap data. Then, including the mirage of unconventional oil puts the nail in the coffin. Even the Venezuela heavy oil is sour and contaminated, not a replacement for light. If you are going to do this sort of analysis, you should weight the reserves according to quality. The conclusions are inevitably wrong.

Yet another article where the author starts with his preferred conclusion and then presents some crappy evidence to support it.
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Re: Proven Oil Reserves are not a Measure of Future Supply

Unread postby rockdoc123 » Thu 13 Oct 2005, 23:30:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or a kick off, anyone using USGS figures as their database is starting with crap data.


I think that statement needs qualification. The USGS methodology is indeed the most theoreticallly correct method for determining yet to find. Unfortunately most people do not understand how to use the 2000 report. It reports in-place numbers and assumes geological risk to be 100% chance of success. In reality we would be looking at numbers unrisked of anywhere from 10% to 45% of the OOIP estimates for oils and up to 75% of OOIP for condensates and risked reserves (i.e. those you would most likely come up with given a substantial drilling campaign) would be likely anywhere from 15% to 60% of those already reduced numbers.It also does not address crude quality....ie. certain source rocks (such as the Jurassic carbonates in the Middle East) are prone to generating sulphur rich hydrocarbons.....as well it does not take into account burial depth and hence the potential for biodegradation and heavy oils. But all of their assumptions are published in the report for each and every basin. If you are knowledgeable about the geology of the relevant area it is fairly easy to come up with reasonable estimates for likely recovery rate, type of hydrocarbon, and geologic risk which can then be applied to the number the USGS publish in the detailed calculation in the Appendix to their report.

Remember that the "curve fitters", Campbell and the bunch miss out on the possiblility of new play types and/or new basins in any given country. As an example applying the curve fitting methodology to Algeria in 1992 would have missed something in the order of about 8 billion barrels and 15 or so TCF that was discovered in the Ghadames/Berkine basin. The curve fitting method would also have missed Buzzard in the UK and the deepwater in GOM and West Africa.....simply because there was a considerable lag time from the initial discoveries and production until the new "basin" or "playtype" was discovered. Another example would be Qatar where all of the structural plays were discovered quite early on, with most of the production in the country coming from Dukhan for about 30 years....then Maersk discovered Al Shaheen which is mostly a stratigraphic and hydrodynamic drap...a mere 20 - 30 billion OOIP depending on who you talk to and on what day.

USGS numbers at face value make no sense and the USGS would be the first to admit that, but the methodology is sound and if you know how to utilize the database it is stellar when used in conjunction with IHS reserves and production data. Saying it is a crap database is a bit of an insult to the 100 or so people at the USGS who spent a little over 2 years compiling the data.
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