[Jaymax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jaymax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his problem ranks alongside thermonuclear war

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') guess I just don't know who these "doomers" being referred to are. Clearly they must be important, since we keep talking about them. But who are they?

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '
')I thought doomers were peeps like Matt Savinar, MQ and Jay Hansen.

[Macsporan]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')Macsporan, I read your post, and I hope I'm wrong and you're right about the future of our civilization. I'll admit it's a possibility. My heart wants to be an optimist but my head says I'd better play the odds smart or I might not be playing at all.

[rogerhb]

As they say "Your mileage may vary". Different countries responses are going to be very different, and the more successful countries may inspire others to follow, also they may also inspire more conflict, such are the solutions from Homo Sapians.

I'm hopeful for a good local response down here, the gov despite being slow has been making positive sounding squeeks, better late than never. The dislocation is going to be very uncomfortable and disconcerting for most, but if you have kept your eyes and options open and are making sensible preparations it won't be as bad for you personally as for others, and that's the best hope I can offer.

[LadyRuby]

Macsporan for President!!!! Oh, forget it, he's Australian.

[Dingbat]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Macsporan', '.').. Anyone who speaks for hopelessness and demoralisation speaks for death. Any society that listens to Doomers will disappear from the face of the earth. It is a classic self-fulfilling prophesy.

[turmoil]

Alright Mac, you write the petition, I'll get some pens.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic11506.html

Global sustainability, here we come!

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('stupid_monkeys', ':')) Alright Mac, you write the petition, I'll get some pens.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic11506.html

Global sustainability, here we come!

[turmoil]

yeah, but let's not burst their bubble quite yet. After all, people aren't panicking yet.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LadyRuby', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')s this SO hard to understand?

[Macsporan]

Monte, you're rather too pious.

There's been all sorts of nasty threads ranting on about cannibalism, survivalism, 'my favourite assault rifle', 'I hate the government so much I foam at the mouth', and so forth.

In any case you've done a fair bit of casual well-poisoning yourself by defly skittling anyone who dares to be optimistic or hopeful.

Cornicopians are fair game, they're just plain deluded; but on the other extreme there really are some deviates around here really do seem to look forward to eating each other's grannies and shooting the postman.

I note you don't descend from Mount Olympus to slap them around.

Perhaps you should if you don't want to give people the wrong impression of what passes for conventional wisdom around here.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Macsporan', 'M')onte, you're rather too pious.

There's been all sorts of nasty threads ranting on about cannibalism, survivalism, 'my favourite assault rifle', 'I hate the government so much I foam at the mouth', and so forth.

In any case you've done a fair bit of casual well-poisoning yourself by defly skittling anyone who dares to be optimistic or hopeful.

Cornicopians are fair game, they're just plain deluded; but on the other extreme there really are some deviates around here really do seem to look forward to eating each other's grannies and shooting the postman.

I note you don't descend from Mount Olympus to slap them around.

Perhaps you should if you don't want to give people the wrong impression of what passes for conventional wisdom around here.

[Macsporan]

Yes, we're all waiting for that. I hope we won't be waiting too much longer.

In any case I am not expecting too much until the fan is choked and the walls are brown-splattered and reeking.

After all the Great Depression was four years old before the Amercian people elected Roosevelt, which is more than the Australian people ever got around to doing, prefering British stooges and mediocre dunderheads. So it could go either way.

Thanks for noticing us all down here anyway.

[Jaymax]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I') poison no drinkable wells.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here's been all sorts of nasty threads ranting on about cannibalism, survivalism, 'my favourite assault rifle', 'I hate the government so much I foam at the mouth', and so forth.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jaymax', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'I') poison no drinkable wells.

[Macsporan]

There will be massive unemployment from the Great PO Depression in any case.

There will be plenty of work to do though: covering every available surface with PVCs and windmills, reinstalling turbines in former hydro-dams, installing a mass-transit system in every city, doing much previously mechanised work with picks and shovels, building a nation-wide electric rail network, building sailing ships, digging up parking lots for urban gardens and so forth.

The State will have to organise these things as the Corporate Sector will probably be hiding under a rock by this time.

While there are other dangers threatening us most have to do with the existance of our crazed, oil gluttonous civilisation. As it fades out we can reasonably expect many of these things to improve.

Thanks for pointing out the difficulties ahead, Monte. Your insights will be valuable to PO crisis planners in the future.

[medicvet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Macsporan', 'M')onte, you're rather too pious.

There's been all sorts of nasty threads ranting on about cannibalism, survivalism, 'my favourite assault rifle', 'I hate the government so much I foam at the mouth', and so forth.

In any case you've done a fair bit of casual well-poisoning yourself by defly skittling anyone who dares to be optimistic or hopeful.

Cornicopians are fair game, they're just plain deluded; but on the other extreme there really are some deviates around here really do seem to look forward to eating each other's grannies and shooting the postman.

I note you don't descend from Mount Olympus to slap them around.

Perhaps you should if you don't want to give people the wrong impression of what passes for conventional wisdom around here.

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Macsporan', 'T')hose shallow, sneering souls temperamentally disinclined to heroism will need to keep out of the way, at least until we’ve saved their hides for them.