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Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 10:01:52

Peak oil and related hard times are bound to change the culture, in ways we can't anticipate. But perhaps some predictions are warranted.

Could peak oil change the dynamics between the sexes? Will it issue in a new era of romance and chivalry? Will the movies reinvent the genre that WW2 was so famous for? Will media recreate cheesy musicals, inhabited by frilly shrill sopranos chased around by agile aggresively handsome suitors? Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Renfield » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 10:24:43

It will certainly effect internet dating. Driving a long distance just to get laid will no longer be an option. You'll need to make sure you'll want to marry someone and all that. More likely everyone will just have to meet people the old fahsioned way again - face to face. Suits me fine. I never got teh whole internet thing anyway...
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Raxozanne » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 10:37:06

I think divorce rates will go up as couples argue over fuel/heating/electricity bills and life generally gets harder and more expensive. :(
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 11:13:53

Well, the equality of the sexes thing will have to be tossed out before anthing like what you are talking about will happen. The notion that men and women are just people who happen to have different genders but otherwise are pretty much the same could be a casualty of the decreasing energy supplies. I can see radical changes of all sorts happening. But just how and what they are, who knows?
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Specop_007 » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 11:33:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Renfield', 'D')riving a long distance just to get laid will no longer be an option.


You need to sit down and think about what you've said.
There is no limit to what a man will do for pie. (Reasonably and legally of course)
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Renfield » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 12:21:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Renfield', 'D')riving a long distance just to get laid will no longer be an option.


You need to sit down and think about what you've said.
There is no limit to what a man will do for pie. (Reasonably and legally of course)


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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Andrew_S » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 12:32:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I') think divorce rates will go up as couples argue over fuel/heating/electricity bills and life generally gets harder and more expensive. :(


This certainly seems likely in the short term. However, I wonder whether in the long run prolonged recession will lead to people valuing the family unit more highly. In many ways a return to more old fashioned ways seems possible.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 13:20:14

In times of crisis people tend to come together.

Note that the key word here is TEND.
"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." - Douglas Adams
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby gnm » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 14:06:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', 'I')n times of crisis people tend to come together.

Note that the key word here is TEND.


OH MAN IS THAT BEGGING FOR A CREATIVE RE-SPELLING!
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Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 14:32:43

Interesting that some people will discuss this and some prefer to crack jokes. Going a long way for some 'pie' takes the cake! Gotta love those sexual synecdoches
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 15:18:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I') think divorce rates will go up as couples argue over fuel/heating/electricity bills and life generally gets harder and more expensive. :(


This certainly seems likely in the short term. However, I wonder whether in the long run prolonged recession will lead to people valuing the family unit more highly. In many ways a return to more old fashioned ways seems possible.


it is expensive to get divorced (trust me, I know!) so I am not sure it will be a matter of valuing the family unit, pulling together and all that bladyblah, but pure economics.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 15:28:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I') think divorce rates will go up as couples argue over fuel/heating/electricity bills and life generally gets harder and more expensive. :(


This certainly seems likely in the short term. However, I wonder whether in the long run prolonged recession will lead to people valuing the family unit more highly. In many ways a return to more old fashioned ways seems possible.


it is expensive to get divorced (trust me, I know!) so I am not sure it will be a matter of valuing the family unit, pulling together and all that bladyblah, but pure economics.
We're not talking more of the same old same old here. Anything is possible from monogamy strictly enforced by law with no divorce allowed to hippy commune free love. You can't see past an event like this, it's so unprecedented.
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Unread postby Andrew_S » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 15:46:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Andrew_S', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I') think divorce rates will go up as couples argue over fuel/heating/electricity bills and life generally gets harder and more expensive. :(


This certainly seems likely in the short term. However, I wonder whether in the long run prolonged recession will lead to people valuing the family unit more highly. In many ways a return to more old fashioned ways seems possible.


it is expensive to get divorced (trust me, I know!) so I am not sure it will be a matter of valuing the family unit, pulling together and all that bladyblah, but pure economics.


Yep, value can be taken in the emotional or practical sense. Family might be useful even if you hate them.

I wonder how many unemployed or underemployed young singles might move back in with the parents?

I've heard that in the UK with the housing mania, prospective partners may be judged on their ability to help buy a place.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 15:50:36

an event is a phenomenon located at a single point in space-time; peakoil is not going to be an event, but continuing of life, just in the opposite direction of where we had been heading. Economics will always play a role in the flow of humanity's river...and two is definately better than one, even if you do not like the other one.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby SupplyConcerns » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 15:53:53

For the first time in a long time, Americans are going to learn to think inter-generationally. This means not just looking for ass, but really looking for a mate who you love and could start a family with. And that means more attention to the family unit. All of this does imply more chivalry, which I think is good. I've noticed in my own feelings towards my signifigant other, a shift in this direction since PO really entered my consciousness.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 16:08:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'a')n event is a phenomenon located at a single point in space-time; peakoil is not going to be an event, but continuing of life, just in the opposite direction of where we had been heading. Economics will always play a role in the flow of humanity's river...and two is definately better than one, even if you do not like the other one.
Well, there will be an inflection point in the historical production rates where we will see a shift from increasing production to decreasing production. This is a point in time and an event even though we won't recognize it until it's in the past. I would think there will be many cascading events that follow this main one, and they will be spread out in time more like you are talking about. But the Peak is an event.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby SinisterBlueCat » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 16:27:39

I suppose technically speaking, you are right (darn, that means I am wrong! how can that possibly be?? :P )

but usually when I am referring to PO, I mean the long haul.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby Jake_old » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 16:44:32

Thats interesting

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')or the first time in a long time, Americans are going to learn to think inter-generationally. This means not just looking for ass, but really looking for a mate who you love and could start a family with. And that means more attention to the family unit. All of this does imply more chivalry, which I think is good. I've noticed in my own feelings towards my signifigant other, a shift in this direction since PO really entered my consciousness.


Until my other half knew about Peak Oil I felt an incredible disconnect, even resentful.

Did your significant other also know about peak oil or are we fundamentally different?

BTW everythings cool now.
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 18:12:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SinisterBlueCat', 'I') suppose technically speaking, you are right (darn, that means I am wrong! how can that possibly be?? :P )

but usually when I am referring to PO, I mean the long haul.
Why do I love semantics? Wouldn't WWII qualify as an event? The Civil War? The Industrial Revolution? The Roman Empire? the Bronze Age? etc. :)
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Re: Peak oil and romantic love

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 18:24:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Specop_007', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Renfield', 'D')riving a long distance just to get laid will no longer be an option.


You need to sit down and think about what you've said.
There is no limit to what a man will do for pie. (Reasonably and legally of course)
Say spec, you weren't by any chance in a Fraternity in College were you?
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