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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby MonteQuest » Wed 28 Sep 2005, 22:40:27

DEMAND DESTRUCTION
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '2')005’s hurricane season to date has effectively removed 26% of the Nation’s refinery capacity according to the Department of Energy (DOE).
Using the IEA Data above; 444 million gallons of gasoline per day has been removed from the market since last Thursday.
Reports as to the damage to refineries and other infrastructure, such as pipelines and rigs will take a week to ten days to asses according the DOE.
A true energy crisis is on the horizon.

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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby UncoveringTruths » Thu 29 Sep 2005, 09:40:26

I got this from a rig mover on another website.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')owan Companies said its jack-up rigs Rowan-Odessa and Rowan-Halifax were not at their pre-storm locations, and the company could not account for the Rowan-Fort Worth after a high-altitude aerial survey Sunday. Rowan said the hull of its Rowan-Louisiana jackup apparently detached from its legs and is aground offshore Louisiana.
Diamond Offshore said its Ocean Saratoga and Ocean Star rigs broke free from their moorings and ran aground approximately 100 miles from their drilling locations. Start-up crews re-boarded the rigs to secure and assess damage to the units.
ENSCO said its ENSCO 90 rig was listing, the drill floor on ENSCO 68 shifted and the ENSCO 69 skid-off drilling package shifted on the oil company platform. The company said there was no apparent structural damage to any of its rigs.
Transocean reported significant damage to the mooring system of its semisubmersible Transocean Marianas, which was forced off its drilling location and ran aground approximately 140 miles away. The company's semisubmersible Deepwater Nautilus, which sustained mooring system damage, was set adrift after a tow line failed while attempting to relocate the rig out of the path of the hurricane. A partial crew used the rig's thrusters to continue moving the rig to a location where it remained grounded, and the crew was evacuated.
Noble Corporation reported varying levels of damage to six of its semisubmersible rigs, including two that will likely require shipyard repairs. The Therald Martin, Paul Romano, Amos Runner and Max Smith all broke from their mooring lines and traveled up to 123 miles from their original locations. The Lorris Bouzigard broke at least one mooring line, and the submersible Joe Alford moved approximately 8 miles off its original location. Noble said it has secured shipyard space in Sabine Pass, Texas, and Pascagoula, Miss., for repairs to the Max Smith and Joe Alford.
The two GSF rigs are being surveyed for salvage.
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who would have thought

Unread postby Armageddon » Thu 29 Sep 2005, 18:11:46

I wonder what else they were too 'optimistic' about ? Damage
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Re: who would have thought

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 29 Sep 2005, 19:13:41

Let's not get paranoid.

Saudi Arabia just came out and said they have 497 Quintillion barrels of oil, and the Whitehouse said "no big risk of recession."

Things are moving along swimmingly, you just have to read the right articles.
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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby tokyo_to_motueka » Thu 29 Sep 2005, 20:40:35

i wonder if the head of the Minerals Management Service used to be Laura Bush's hairdresser? or W's Texas campaign finger food secretary?
this kind of stuff is criminal negligence.
they don't have a clue so they just lie through their teeth.
rather than just saying "we don"t know. it's gonna take a while to find out." they have to spin the most outrageously optimistic line, no matter what!
and then she takes off out of the country to escape the poodle media's questions.
WTF? THE USA IS A KLEPTOCRACY IN THE SAME WAY AS SUHARTO'S INDONESIA OR MARCOS IN THE PHILIPPINES!!!!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hurricane Katrina did more damage to underwater oil and natural gas pipelines in the Gulf of Mexico than previously thought, according to the U.S. agency that oversees offshore energy production.
The head of the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, Johnnie Burton, said two weeks ago that Katrina did not do as much damage to offshore pipelines as Hurricane Ivan did a year earlier.
However, Burton's estimate turned out to be too optimistic, and the damage is much worse. "It appears that way," said MMS spokesman Gary Strasburg, who pointed out that Burton's comments were based on initial data available at the time.
"I think in her remarks she said that it was preliminary information," he said.

Strasburg could not elaborate on how much worse the damage is from Katrina, saying the agency is still trying to figure out the impact of Hurricane Rita.
Burton was out of the country and unavailable for comment. ...
While damage by Rita to offshore drilling rigs and underwater pipelines is part of the reason for reduced oil output, problems at onshore facilities are also at fault, according to MMS.
Specifically, the refineries still shut down due to both hurricanes can't use the offshore oil and storage tanks are filling up, which diminishes the need for energy companies to restart, for those that can, their Gulf production operations.
"The role of onshore facilities (in not bringing back production) is something we're trying to determine," said MMS spokeswoman Susan Weaver. "That is certainly a factor, I cannot tell you how much at this point."
She pointed out that MMS' Burton said two weeks ago that 35 percent of the Gulf oil output shut-in by Katrina was due to problems at onshore facilities.
"We are not yet able to assign a percentage to it (for Rita)," Weaver said. "It's a question we're trying to get a figure on."
The information-gathering process has been slowed by the closing of the MMS' offices in New Orleans and Houston, where the agency's staff that usually deal with offshore energy production are located.
The oil companies also haven't been able to resume their operations fully because all their workers have not returned. Many of them are still dealing with the disruption to their lives after the hurricanes.
"Personnel is a big issue here for onshore (facilities) as well as offshore," Weaver said. "That is certainly a factor in this."
She said the MMS hopes to provide a more complete update soon on the hurricane damage to energy infrastructure and what effect that has on Gulf production.
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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 29 Sep 2005, 21:07:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tokyo_to_motueka', 'i') wonder if the head of the Minerals Management Service used to be Laura Bush's hairdresser or W's Texas campaign finger food secretary?

Or dog walker.
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109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby Eli » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 15:53:08

The article says that only a small fraction of oil production will be totally lost. What I wonder is if 109 platforms have been destroyed do they mean that the production will come back after new ones are built, if so we have long way to go.
Thankfully next year there won't be any more hurricanes.
109 bite the dust or sea floor anyway
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby some_guy282 » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 15:55:19

8O Has this been confirmed anywhere else?
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 15:57:17

An interesting quote from that article:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut Norton also stressed that only one of the damaged platforms was built after federal construction standards were tightened in 1988.
The ones that were destroyed were nearing the end of their lives. "As a result, only a very small percentage of production is expected to be permanently lost," she said in a statement.
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 16:00:27

"It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."

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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby RonMN » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 16:39:34

Keyword: "destroyed"...what about the ones that are damaged & not pumping/drilling like Thunder Horse?
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby Eli » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 16:48:39

Ron very good point 8O
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby Minvaren » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 17:16:35

Do we have any idea of what percentage of gulf production these platforms are responsible for?

Statistics-wise it's about 1/29, or about 3.5% of the platforms in the Gulf.
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby smiley » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 17:44:43

Here is a damage assesment from rigzone

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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby KevO » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:23:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('some_guy282', '8')O Has this been confirmed anywhere else?

108 actually: link
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby tdrive » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:30:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hankfully next year there won't be any more hurricanes.

Hahaha... that was funny... :lol:
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Re: 109 oil platforms destroyed

Unread postby TT » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:53:51

And will we the USA be seeing $4.00 per gallon gas by Christmas. Quite possibly says the source from Urban Survival.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t all depends on whether they can get full power back to those refineries, and what flooding actually did to their control hardware. Saltwater flooding is not like freshwater flooding with respect to electrical equipment. For instance, if you take a common relay, and submerge it in freshwater, you can dry it out and it will go on switching and doing its thing. If you do this in saltwater, it leaves salt behind when it evaporates, and that residue corrodes the contacts, making it basically useless. You can drop your cell phone in the tub, take it apart and dry it out, and it will still work. Do it while you’re in the surf, and it’s junk.

If they cannot get them back up in the next two weeks, it could happen, as the remaining refineries switch to winter products. I don’t know about gas lines – but I think $4 is not crazy. It all depends on how much and what kind of damage they have to repair. I have heard from several people that the majors are holding prices down so as not to get hit with gouging charges. What is more likely to me is that they can use this to muscle-out the independent stores, by keeping their margins down a bit. Never think that any retailer is out for anything except profit, especially when their corporate bonus depends on it…right?
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am refilling my yard tank right now, if that tell you anything. If gas actually gets scarce, even for a moment, there will be a run on it, and it will be gone. That’s when things can get nasty. Rita showed us that in a big way.

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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby tokyo_to_motueka » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 01:53:30

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ulf Energy Recovery From Storms Is Slowed by Onshore Damage
Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. energy production in the Gulf of Mexico is recovering more slowly from Hurricanes Katrina and Rita than from Ivan last year mostly because of more extensive onshore damage, U.S. Interior Secretary Gale Norton said.
Daily crude-oil output from the Gulf rose by 40,000 barrels from yesterday and gas output increased by 330 million cubic feet, a report today from the U.S. Minerals Management Service showed.
That left 90 percent of pre-storm oil production and 72 percent of gas output halted almost six weeks after Katrina made landfall. Less than 10 percent was off line six weeks after Ivan, Norton told reporters at a press conference today in Washington.
''We are not seeing that kind of quick recovery this time around,'' Norton said. ''Most significantly, onshore oil terminals and natural-gas processing facilities have been damaged. Those onshore facilities also make it difficult to restore the offshore production.''
Damage to onshore oil and gas processing facilities is responsible for 30 percent of halted production in the Gulf, said Johnnie Burton, director of the Minerals Management Service, which is an arm of the Interior Department.
It could take ''several months'' to repair some of the processing plants, Norton said.
Returning Workers-Many of the workers who were evacuated from offshore platforms lost their homes along the coast because of the hurricanes, slowing their return, Norton said. It may take another 10 days to fully staff the platforms, she said. The recovery effort also is hampered by damage to ports handling supplies and equipment for offshore facilities.
The storms destroyed 109 production platforms in the Gulf, the report from the Minerals Management Service showed. All but one, Chevron Corp.'s Typhoon platform were ''not significant producers,'' Norton said. The smaller platforms accounted for 1.5 percent of all Gulf oil production and 0.7 percent of natural gas output before the hurricanes, she said.
''We anticipate that most of these will never be rebuilt,'' she said.
The restoration of production also awaits the completion of inspections of underwater pipelines that move oil and natural gas to shore. The pipelines must be inspected for possible damage from the anchors of drilling rigs that were dislodged by the storms.
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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby backstop » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 02:30:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tokyo_to_motueka', '[')url=http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=anYHsN9AyxQs&refer=japan]bloomberg[/url]
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'G')ulf Energy Recovery From Storms Is Slowed by Onshore Damage
Oct. 4 (Bloomberg) -- snip--The storms destroyed 109 production platforms in the Gulf, the report from the Minerals Management Service showed. All but one, Chevron Corp.'s Typhoon platform were ''not significant producers,'' Norton said. The smaller platforms accounted for 1.5 percent of all Gulf oil production and 0.7 percent of natural gas output before the hurricanes, she said.
''We anticipate that most of these will never be rebuilt,'' she said.
The restoration of production also awaits the completion of inspections of underwater pipelines that move oil and natural gas to shore. The pipelines must be inspected for possible damage from the anchors of drilling rigs that were dislodged by the storms.


To t M -
Even with this scale of admission it seems they're still spinning the news hard -
Can some 5% of the GOM's Prodn. Platforms really account for only 1.5% & 0.7% of oil & NG respectively ???
Similarly the pipelines dont need inspection for production to be restored, they need checking foot by foot for hundreds of dragged anchors' damage, for God knows what landslides, and for crushing beneath sunken rigs. Then they need a co-ordinated plan of repairs and replacement, plus the crews, vessels and equipment, before even starting work.
And we've still 7 weeks of the hurricane season to go.
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Re: Hurricane Rita Oil and Natural Gas Infrastructure

Unread postby tokyo_to_motueka » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 02:48:07

backstop,
but the news moves on and even here at PO.com hurriane damage to infrastructure seems to be a stale and forgotten topic
just ain't news anymore, eh?
how many weeks of lost prodn will it take before the useless MSM and "easy motoring" sheeple
wake up to the fact that its
GAME OVER
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