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To all those who voted for and support this nut

Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:11:40

This is truely unbelievable. Is this what it's coming to? Anybody who actually agrees with this ought to be the first ones rounded up.

I can't believe he actually said this during a live press conference. Let the goose-stepping begin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051004/ap_ ... _avian_flu
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Postby emersonbiggins » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:15:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', 'T')his is truely unbelievable. Is this what it's coming to? Anybody who actually agrees with this ought to be the first ones rounded up.

I can't believe he actually said this during a live press conference. Let the goose-stepping begin.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051004/ap_ ... _avian_flu


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Postby k_semler » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:23:01

Yep. The facade of a constitutional republic has finally crumbled. I wonder how many people are going to completly agree with Shrub on this. Quarintine I can understand, but using the millitary to do so is just an excuse to establish control zones. And I bet that once the Avian Flu does pass, the control zones won't dissapear. If they just wanted to quarintine infected paitents, then that is what hospitals are for.
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Re: To all those who voted for and support this nut

Postby rogerhb » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:24:42

Is there any class of problem for which the military are not the solution in Mr Pea-Brain's mind?
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Postby dissimulo » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:27:12

Looks to me like he is only doing what the sheep demanded following the hurricanes.

As far as the bird flu goes, if we did have breakouts in the US, what would you suggest we do? Without quarantine, it would probably spread. Without enforcement, there is no quarantine.

I hate the idea of a quarantine, but is there a better approach?
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Postby 0mar » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:27:15

I think you all are forgetting that Kerry would have done the exact same thing. He just would have sold it to you more eloquently.
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Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:28:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'I') think you all are forgetting that Kerry would have done the exact same thing. He just would have sold it to you more eloquently.


No, you got it wrong........it's Clinton's fault.
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Postby 0mar » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:31:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', 'L')ooks to me like he is only doing what the sheep demanded following the hurricanes.

As far as the bird flu goes, if we did have breakouts in the US, what would you suggest we do? Without quarantine, it would probably spread. Without enforcement, there is no quarantine.

I hate the idea of a quarantine, but is there a better approach?


Quarantine is fine. Using marshal law to do so is absolutely draconian and unnecessary. The thing is, that most doomers here have said that marshal law will happen.
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Postby seldom_seen » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:32:44

I find the whole thing weird, especially in the context of stories like this:

Bird flu not so dire, WHO says

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')HO’s flu spokesman at the agency’s Geneva headquarters did not say the 150 million prediction was wrong, he emphasized Friday that 7.4 million deaths is a more realistic estimate.


oh 150 million...7.4 million what's the difference? Oh just 142 million.
Of course they don't cite any reasons for the revised estimate.
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Re: To all those who voted for and support this nut

Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:38:19

I'll tell you what. Anyone looking to start a revolution will have to look no further than this. Any corporate-owned Blackwater rent-a-cop trying to put me on lockdown is going to get both barrels.


Here's another question for y'all: Will the government impose manditory inaculations if it gets "too bad"?
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Re: To all those who voted for and support this nut

Postby Eli » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:41:27

we are not talking about a quarantine that encompass a hospital we are talking about quarantining whole states and regions. This thing right now is more lethal than the Spanish flu, the bodys could pile up in the street.

Multiple road blocks on every road would be needed local law enforcement could not do it and the national guard can't do it since they are all in Iraq. Anyway I want the cops close at hand when things get bad not standing on some road stopping trucks.

What do think would happen if all the criminals heard there weren't any cops around?

I am with Omar on this Kerry and big mother Clinton would do the exact same thing except it would not be so painful to here them talk.
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Postby dissimulo » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:41:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', 'Q')uarantine is fine. Using marshal law to do so is absolutely draconian and unnecessary. The thing is, that most doomers here have said that marshal law will happen.


Don't get me wrong. I think martial law is a terrible idea and that making it easier for the military to operate within the US is a terrible idea.

That said, I think the US population would overwhelmingly support increased powers for the military in emergency situations. Following the hurricanes, most people seemed confused and angry about the current domestic rules of engagement for the military.

Bush won't have to slip increased military powers past us - we will demand it.
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Postby k_semler » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:48:25

@Riddick:

Yes. They did it to eradicate smallpox from the planet.
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Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:51:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', '
')Bush won't have to slip increased military powers past us - we will demand it.


And this is exactly the reason why the Founding Fathers have every reason to kick us in the balls. Un-questioning, apathetic, and complacient. Ben Franklin's quote about giving up civil liberties comes to mind as well as about a hundred others. Besides we don't even know how bad (if at all) this will get. Remember how deadly SARS was suppose to be to us?

I hope people demand manditory inaculations. Maybe that kind of thing will weed out a good amount of the weak and un-questioning.
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Postby Pops » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:51:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', 'L')ooks to me like he is only doing what the sheep demanded following the hurricanes.


The sheep? I’d wager that it is exactly what most who’ll post to this thread called for on this very board – remember the outrage about those looters?

They need the active duty Army in there!

I’ve posted on the whole Posse deal as well but loosen those tin hatbands a little folks – this IS what it is written for.

The problem is hospitals today run at a very high occupancy and any plans that are in place for surge hospitals may soon be overwhelmed. Combined that with a possible lead time of 6-12 months for vaccine...


Given the choice between my grandkids dying or giving up my last bullet to get them into a field hospital I suppose I’d take the hospital.


But that’s just me, traitor to the end.
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Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:54:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '@')Riddick:

Yes. They did it to eradicate smallpox from the planet.


I'll tell you what k_s, if these f*ckers try to rope off my location they're going to have a fire-fight on their hands. This makes about as much sense as the whole "duct-tape" solution. A lot of people have been talking about a revolution - this kind of thing may start it.
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Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 18:58:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '
')The sheep? I’d wager that it is exactly what most who’ll post to this thread called for on this very board – remember the outrage about those looters?

They need the active duty Army in there!

I’ve posted on the whole Posse deal as well but loosen those tin hatbands a little folks – this IS what it is written for.


Don't forget about the hearding of people into sporting event stadiums to be vacinated. That's part of the plan too.

Does anyone actually think that we have enough military manpower to be able to quarantine an actual U.S. city?
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Postby dissimulo » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:07:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'G')iven the choice between my grandkids dying or giving up my last bullet to get them into a field hospital I suppose I’d take the hospital.


Agreed Pops, but I'd rather we were not left with the choice of watching things unravel into chaos or putting the military in charge.

We should approach the idea of military operations within the US very carefully. For that matter, we should approach the idea of military operations outside the US very carefully. Unfortunately, we're not likely to get either. Once you give up rights and protections, it's hard to get them back.
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Re: To all those who voted for and support this nut

Postby Riddick » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:10:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', ' ')Once you give up rights and protections, it's hard to get them back.


You can say that again and by the time the masses realize that, it will be too late.
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Postby k_semler » Tue 04 Oct 2005, 19:24:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Riddick', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('k_semler', '@')Riddick:

Yes. They did it to eradicate smallpox from the planet.


I'll tell you what k_s, if these f*ckers try to rope off my location they're going to have a fire-fight on their hands. This makes about as much sense as the whole "duct-tape" solution. A lot of people have been talking about a revolution - this kind of thing may start it.


I agree 100%, except for where you say it would start a massive uprising or armed rebellion. Out of most of the gun owners, about 85% only own the weapon for hunting. Add on another 10% that have firearms for defense of home. Then you are left with only 5% of the gun owners prepared to fight government tyranny. Recent estimations put the gun owning population at around 65 million people, with over 300 million weapons in thier control. 3,250,000 would be willing to actually fight the government.

That is less than the population of Los Angeles. Yes, this would be a formidable army if there was some resemblance of a command structure, most properly trained, and all were assembled into companies. The second factor is already largly met, but the first and third requriement for an effective fighting force have not been met, and I don't expect they will be. Plus, with the MSM feeding the drivel to the sheeple, we could count on little if no support from the population. I have not heard of a war yet that did not have the population behind it, and won the war. Without a base of support, any attempted armed rebellion would be doomed to fail.
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