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Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby maximumheaviosity » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 15:26:28

5. Globalism ends.
4. Goodbye, Wal-Mart.
3. Hasta la vista, Las Vegas.
2. Celebrities are lynched.
1. No more leaf blowers.

Others?
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby medicvet » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 15:47:32

1. a sense of community restored out of necessity
2. With less and less electricity, a rediscovery of the joys of reading and playing boardgames takes placed.
3. Individual farmers are again revered as the backbone of this nation
4. practical day to day living skills more appreciated..indeed, become a necessity


(I came up with these while still realizing that PO will end up causing a lot of hardship and death for many, so still am not looking forward to it, but since this is a 'looking on the bright side of things' thread, tried to keep in the spirit of it.)
Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe.-H.G. Wells

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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby rogerhb » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 15:59:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('maximumheaviosity', '2'). Celebrities are lynched.
Others?


It won't be the celebrities who get lynched, who wants to be in power at the time, get all the blame, and be impotent with any so called solutions?

The tradition is that captains go down with their ships!
"Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Raxozanne » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 18:08:34

- Things will slow down
- We will become more aware of nature and the environment
- Vital skills will be relearnt
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Wildwell » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 19:22:32

- Cult of celebrity ends, many of them meet their ends falling into horse muck while presenting new Horse love shows
- Traffic wardens get sacked
- Junk mail ends and Credit card applications stop coming through the door
- Christmas advertising and music playing in every retail buildings starts late December instead of late August
- End of Yobs, idiots on inadequates at the weekend on drink binges and embarrassing the nation abroad as they are forced to work hard manual labour with whips and chains
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Mo_Oil_Dave » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 20:04:06

- A signifigant reduction in traffic on the roads.

- And a return of the Tall Ships of yesterday, with their billowing sails.

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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby SinisterBlueCat » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 20:15:23

no more telemarking calls at dinnertime!!
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby ashurbanipal » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 20:37:51

I hate to be the party pooper here (not that I've pooped at many parties). But really, I don't think what's coming is going to be good for anyone.

Here's one example of a possible future:

I have a nine year old daughter. Probably the only child I will ever have. She's smart as a whip (I.Q. =164 last time she tested on the Wexsler), full of spunk, loves to entertain people, always smiles, etc. etc. She cries at the possibility that gummy worms won't be around much longer. Her mom and I divorced 3 years ago, and I am now with someone else (as is my ex). Jade (the ex) doesn't really "get" what's going on. I talked to her about Peak Oil, and her response was that she tried to conserve gas any time she could. She hadn't thought about the cost of fuel getting tomatoes to the local store, etc. And she's taken out a pretty massive loan getting a new house in the suburbs.

Now, I'm preparing, as fast and thoroughly as I can. But what if my daughter ends up with Jade amidst the massive social upheaval likely to ensue? What if by chance, I'm simply not able to save her? And how many will experience something of the same bitterness that might befall me? All of us will know people who will die, who will starve to death, and what's worse? All of us will know people who we will refuse help because giving that help will kill us.

The only good thing I can think that will come out of what will be happening over the next decade or two will be that people in America (anyway) will re-learn the fact that they are mortal, that all life comes to an end. And in that realization will come a need to again find God in a non-sectarian, non-religious sense. In that realization, I think, a kind of spirituality that we can now barely comprehend will again take hold, and people will find their souls again. The price for that will, however, take all levity out of the daydreams of the most prepared person, it will destroy all humor about the coming force of history, it will grind to dust the artifice within which we all currently understand ourselves.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Paul64 » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 21:48:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ashurbanipal', 'A')ll of us will know people who will die, who will starve to death, and what's worse? All of us will know people who we will refuse help because giving that help will kill us.

Personally I feel even in an economic collapse a la Soviet Union or Argentina...which is very likely...times will be very hard for almost all...but by and large in the near term (next 5 or 10 years) here in the U.S. the only people who will be of risk of starvation will be the elderly and infirm. Some kind of emergency system will be put into place to distribute food, like the great depression soup lines. But...who really knows??

Anyway I will give my top 1 best thing...and many may disagree. But...to me the collapse of the industrial-medical complex, end of the use by and large of harmful pharmaceutical drugs, toxic radiation therapies, and unnecessary surgeries...and the end of hopeless efforts to 'cure' diseases like cancer or diabetes that do nothing positive except line the pockets of corporate big pharma executives...is all on balance a good thing. That's not to mention the end of the inane commercials for those of us who still watch the boob tube from time to time. People will learn they have to be responsible for their own health. Small practice doctors and herbalists who offer basic care of course will be of help. But for most minor ailments instead of running to the doctor for a pill people can follow Mark Twain's advice and stop eating for a day or two and get better results (should be easy to do!).

Oh, and related to the above...the end of Dunkin Donuts, Mickey D's, KFC and Taco Bell et. al. For sure the obesity epidemic is gonna get better :wink:
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby SinisterBlueCat » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 21:55:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ashurbanipal', '
') The price for that will, however, take all levity out of the daydreams of the most prepared person, it will destroy all humor about the coming force of history, it will grind to dust the artifice within which we all currently understand ourselves.


I am sorry about your situation, it is never fun to be divorced, and it is worse if the ex lives on another planet....trust me I know, my ex is is the son of a very wealthy family and he is now taking me to court to get out of paying child support.

But, I must disagree on this one point. The ability of humans to see humor in any situation. My mother in law died of pancreatic cancer, a very painful way to go in january and even through the pain, she never lost her sense of humor, all the way to the end. One of the last times I saw her was on New Years Eve, and I wished her Happy New Years, and she looked at me and said, "who gives a shit, but I would love a cigarette!" and then she laughed.

Humor is what makes us different than all other mammals. Never lose your sense of humor.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Ardalla » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:07:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') have a nine year old daughter.


Omg. Sounds awful. If I had a 9 year old daughter, and things got as bad as is predicted by some, I would take her and run. There is nothing worse than losing your children. It just destroys you. You have to act. Even if it's crazy.

We can only hope things don't get that bad.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Sunspot » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:33:57

PO will prove, once and for all, that there really is no intelligent life in the universe :oops:
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby MicroHydro » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:36:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mo_Oil_Dave', 'A') return of the Tall Ships of yesterday, with their billowing sails.


Sailing ships will return, but they will not be rigged like the 1850s square sailed classics. Modern materials allow taller masts, stronger rigging, and bigger sails. This leads to large fore and aft rigged ships with triangular sails like the modern sailing cruise ships
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ashurbanipal, don't run

Postby drew » Sun 02 Oct 2005, 22:46:50

Take care of your kid, keep good relations with you ex, but for Godsakes, don't do something stupid like running. You will lose whatever custody you have, and maybe end up in the klink. P. oil could be a long slow process, and you will only be percieved as a nut by doing things rashly. PO will become apparent in good time. Besides where would you run to?

PS I've got three teens.

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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Keith_McClary » Mon 03 Oct 2005, 02:20:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', '
')- Vital skills will be relearnt
At last my expertise in relativistic quantum theory will be appreciated!
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby shakespear1 » Mon 03 Oct 2005, 04:57:48

Samurai Training will be in Vogue ( by Madonna) :-D
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby evilmonkeyspanker » Mon 03 Oct 2005, 05:20:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sunspot', 'P')O will prove, once and for all, that there really is no intelligent life in the universe :oops:


There is intelligent life out there, they just don't want anything to do with us.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby maximumheaviosity » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 12:56:16

Lighten up, people...

Hiltons go bankrupt.
Trump commits suicide.
"Paper or plastic" dilemma ends.
CD wrappers banned.
No more NASCAR.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby clifman » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 13:41:47

Sorry to be broad in my 'top pick' but (with a nod to "no more NASCAR") I go with an end to rewarding mindlessness. Sure, for awhile the perks of lucky birth will hold, and some will be able to buy their way to comfort. But as things get worse, true skills, thought, planning and instinct will be rewarded instead of blindly following a mantra of borrow, buy, consume, discard, repeat.
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Re: Top 5 Best Things About Peak Oil

Postby Renfield » Wed 05 Oct 2005, 13:46:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clifman', 'S')orry to be broad in my 'top pick' but (with a nod to "no more NASCAR") I go with an end to rewarding mindlessness. Sure, for awhile the perks of lucky birth will hold, and some will be able to buy their way to comfort. But as things get worse, true skills, thought, planning and instinct will be rewarded instead of blindly following a mantra of borrow, buy, consume, discard, repeat.
Really? How do you know it won't be brute strength and agression?
The U.S. is the only country in the world that encourages people to drive themselves to work in Army vehicles.
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