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Denial: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby dissimulo » Fri 30 Sep 2005, 15:08:38

I am still up in the air about how quickly things will get bad when the economy starts to slide. I am not undecided about how people will react when life gets uncomfortable. People are going to lose their minds.
My evidence? The gasbuddy.com forums. I stop in about once a week and read some posts. I think it is safe to say that these guys represent the majority opinion. It pretty much comes down to:
* WE'RE REALLY PISSED OFF!
* It's all a conspiracy.
* Corporations are crooks.
* Motor vehicle fuel is a sacred entitlement.
* It's all the government's fault.
* It's all the media's fault.
* The government should do something to fix the problem.
* One of these days we're going to get REALLY MAD and do SOMETHING!

Attempts to interject logic and facts have pretty much the same effect they would have on a stampeding herd.
I read PO.com a lot, so sometimes I develop a false idea of large numbers of people actually comprehending the problems. Then I get smacked in the face by the real world and realize we're screwed.
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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby Grimnir » Fri 30 Sep 2005, 15:14:44

Do NOT mention supply issues/depletion there, even hypothetically. You will be mobbed and stoned.
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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby Hegel » Fri 30 Sep 2005, 15:29:27

The herd always runs in the wrong direction. Just get out of harms way, stay away from "gasbuddies & gasmobsters" :P
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 00:20:42

The comments in those forums are comedy gold to me.
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. – Nietzsche

Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine

History is a set of lies agreed upon. – Napoleon Bonaparte
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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 00:36:40

It's worse than that. When these posters aren't in the gas forums flaunting their ignorance, they're in the voting booths deciding our future leadership.
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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby Maddog » Sat 01 Oct 2005, 23:59:37

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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby Revi » Sun 09 Oct 2005, 23:08:14

Well, those were interesting! Gas buddy discovers peak oil. That's pretty much the response I get when I mention peak oil anyplace except with friends who are in the know or on this forum. Most people feel ripped off every time they go to the gas station. They'll be filling their oil tanks soon and then the wailing will really commence. It's a plot by the oil companies! The only bright spot I see is that it has fostered conservation. Everyone is using less, no matter if they believe in peak oil or not. Lately I just listen. The common man is sounding more and more like us peak freaks every day!
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Re: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby some_guy282 » Sun 09 Oct 2005, 23:47:41

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I have absolutely no sympathy for these idiots, whatsoever. This situation would be so amazingly and completely funny...if it weren't so scary to think about how these idiots will respond too.
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Re: Denial: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby AdamB » Sat 13 Sep 2025, 19:23:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', 'I') am still up in the air about how quickly things will get bad when the economy starts to slide. I am not undecided about how people will react when life gets uncomfortable. People are going to lose their minds.
My evidence? The gasbuddy.com forums. I stop in about once a week and read some posts. I think it is safe to say that these guys represent the majority opinion. It pretty much comes down to:
* WE'RE REALLY PISSED OFF!
* It's all a conspiracy.
* Corporations are crooks.
* Motor vehicle fuel is a sacred entitlement.
* It's all the government's fault.
* It's all the media's fault.
* The government should do something to fix the problem.
* One of these days we're going to get REALLY MAD and do SOMETHING!



WOW! You described about a decades worth of peak oil drivel from the gullible!
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Plant Wed 11 Apr 2007 "I think Deffeyes might have nailed it, and we are just past the overall peak in oil production. (Thanksgiving 2005)"
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Re: Denial: gasbuddy.com forums

Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 22 Oct 2025, 18:37:08

20 years later... The oil and gasoline price hasn't moved much, but of course how can it? It's the basis for life on earth now. As the master commodity that keeps all other heads above water. It must be kept low, until the end? What end. Say you have 100 million unemployed Americans, food stamps a shadow of their former self, millions upon millions homeless. So what does that mean for oil? Less demand of course, it can stay low forever.

It was the big mistake most peakoilers made, that prices would rise and rise, but behind that assumption was a failure to accept that their own lifestyles could go down the toilet. Go down BEFORE oil went up in price. All their projections were based on BAU consumption levels which have proved false. Go to Myanmar, a nation of 54 million people, most of whom struggle to buy any gasoline. Or Bangladesh , 173 million.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Petroleum fuels. Petroleum fuels such as diesel, petrol, octane, and kerosene are central to Bangladesh’s transport, agriculture, and energy backup needs. Unlike electricity or natural gas, these fuels are entirely imported, making their availability and affordability sensitive to global price volatility and exchange rate fluctuations. Since mid-2022, international market shocks combined with domestic price adjustments have significantly impacted fuel consumption patterns across sectors.

Over the last five years, fuel consumption initially increased across all four fuel types but saw a notable decline in FY2024. Diesel, the most consumed fuel, dropped by 14 per cent, from 4.94 million metric tons in FY2023 to 4.24 million metric tons in FY2024. Petrol and octane also declined by 5.2 per cent and 2.1 per cent, respectively, while kerosene consumption fell by nearly 10 per cent. This reversal reflects both high domestic prices and weakened purchasing power, especially among low-income and informal sector users.
https://cpd.org.bd/power-and-energy-cri ... angladesh/

Cut away all the fluff and you see a nation of nearly 200 million that simply can't afford the oil it used to. And the oil price hasn't risen, it's been up and down. We are seeing the same phenomena all across the world, Nations cutting back in line with the diminishing supply.

Here you can see UK petror consumption falling steadily from the year 2000, well BEFORE the battcar came along. Diesel on the other hand kept rising, because diesel is the ful of business, not of the impoverished masses. https://www.statista.com/statistics/382 ... ingdom-uk/

Europe and the UK went into massive debt to try a transition to Battcars, but they failed. Now they have electricity prices twice what they once had and any benefits of running rechargeable battery cars has gone out the window. Plus there is the debt for buying them, plus the fact they will all need to be replaced within a decade. No driving old clunkers to get from A to B like in the much poorer nations, once the battery is dead, the car is dead. A percentage of people in the UK do their own dental work now, even extractions! Many can't afford a dentist. Many can't afford to heat their homes in Winter, AND eat regularly. But Petrol prices are not too bad. But what use is petrol if you're hungry?

But all this is good news for us who have prepared, the price of Petrol and Diesel will no doubt stay low even as the rest of society crumbles around us. Just ensure you have the money to buy it and you'll be fine. Unfortunately the masses have their money tied up in the crumbling system and will become poorer and poorer as time passes. Poorer and poorer until we reach a balance, until we reach the living standards that existed 100 years ago before oil. There was no middleclass then, not "Entrepreneurs" "making it". It was just the wealthy and the poor, the elites and the serfs. Listen to them rail in the alternate media about the rich, about how all the money is flowing into their hands. This isn't a conspiracy, it's just the natural order of things.

There is only so much much wealth on the planet and with the loss of cheap oil the share that pulled jack and Jill out of the muck and into a shiny new home on a new street is gone now.
We're 17 years past the peak now and the 3rd World is going hungry and dark. We'll be next, we're well on the way in fact.
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