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THE Bill O'Reilly Thread (merged)

Unread postby Eli » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 10:45:46

I watched Bill O'Reilly do a segment on why oil prices are so high at the pump.He had some complete dumb ass chick form Forbes mag. and another guy who was some kind of oil analyst on, anyway.

Bill O and the chick were of the same mind and they had high gas prices all figured out. They both came to the conclusion that prices were high because the refiners were gouging all the independent gas station owners.

Thats right the only reason gas prices are high is because refiners are setting the price for whatever the market will bare, it is all a price fixing scam. No mention of declining discoverys, no mention of SA and the mess over there, no mention of unending demand up to this point and really no mention of all the refiners taken off line. The show was counterproductive.

Let me tell you I can't stand Bill O'Reilly he is a horses ass. He got his start doing a rag mag TV show called Hard Copy for Rupert Murdoch. Bill O should go back to doing that show, at least you could count on having at least one good T&A segment on it, now with his show on Fox all you get is the ass part.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby holmes » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 11:34:32

we should be giving heaps of respect to the rig workers, oil grunts and the refiners. They have been giving us carte blanche for years.
Opec too.
Especially these elites they owe them their lives. Its a sad entitlement culture. :(
Make up things to fit agendas.
very sad indeed. let the weaning begin. The suckling has to be stopped at a certain age. We pull the pigs off the sow tit at a certain age. No difference here.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby PhilBiker » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 15:13:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'L')et me tell you I can't stand Bill O'Reilly he is a horses ass. He got his start doing a rag mag TV show called Hard Copy for Rupert Murdoch. Bill O should go back to doing that show, at least you could count on having at least one good T&A segment on it, now with his show on Fox all you get is the ass part.
[smilie=laughing4.gif] [smilie=laughing4.gif] fantastic rant. :) I completely agree.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby PhilBiker » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 15:14:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'w')e should be giving heaps of respect to the rig workers, oil grunts and the refiners. They have been giving us carte blanche for years.
Opec too.
I agree!
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby holmes » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 15:24:46

we should drop all our national holidays except the 4th of July and make a national RoughNeck day. Pay Homage and ingrain the importance of oil and natural resources into our culture. Maybe get back to grassroots again. It would be a nice idealize. :)
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 15:26:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'w')e should drop all our national holidays except the 4th of July and make a national RoughNeck day. Pay Homage and ingrain the importance of oil and natural resources into our culture. Maybe get back to grassroots again. It would be a nice idealize. :)


I'll second that!
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby PhilBiker » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 16:24:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'w')e should drop all our national holidays except the 4th of July and make a national RoughNeck day. Pay Homage and ingrain the importance of oil and natural resources into our culture. Maybe get back to grassroots again. It would be a nice idealize. :)
Well, Labor Day kind of honors all the blue collar schleppers who keep the country running all over all areas. It's kind of like our "May Day", but not the pinko commie version.;) In my neighborhood the trash guys came by on Labor Day. I was actually angry about that - those are the exact guys who should be sitting home with their families on that day.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby holmes » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 17:36:06

true. I forgot about labor day. I was just thinking about wiping the slate clean and starting from scratch. It seems labor day has lost its meaning too.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby Roy » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 18:24:23

If you hate O'reilly like I do, you should have seen that prick interviewing Mr. Galloway, the MP from England.

He wouldn't let Galloway say anything of substance. Pravda lives and its called Fox News.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly is a horses ass

Unread postby insurgent » Wed 21 Sep 2005, 18:47:20

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O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby AirlinePilot » Thu 06 Oct 2005, 23:43:59

Watched O'Reilly tonight and he was at it again, taking "Big Oil" to task for price gouging. Now I don't doubt Bill is a smart guy but geeze, how can he not understand why prices have been climbing for the last few years?

He is using his pulpit to pronounce to all conservatives and sheeple what they already believe to be the truth. Oil is not scarce and markets have nothing to do with the price of a barrel of crude. Just the big bad oil barrons holding us down by the throat.

He has been at it for about two weeks, ever since the hurricane impacts have begun to make news. They even had a marketing guy on who Bill kept cutting off to foam at the mouth. I felt sorry for the guy, Ive seen him on CNBC and I think he really "gets it" but Dickhead didnt give him a chance to form his line of reasoning. Sickening, very sickening.
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby Typhoon » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 00:17:52

By "a marketing guy", I assume you mean Phil Flynn. He's actually the person in charge of energy at Alaron Trading. I agree; I saw the show and he understands how it really works. Unfortunately, O'Reilly has his crazy opinion about price gouging. I sent O'Reilly a letter once, but it never was shared on the viewer e-mail segment at the end of his show. I hate the crusade that he is on. Why doesn't he invite Matthew Simmons on his program?

By the way, Flynn issues a daily report which can be read by everyone: Daily Energy Report It's quite interesting: it shows the trades that he recommends to his clients, and he discusses the latest news about oil and natural gas. Sometimes he speculates on where prices might be heading next. While he says that crude could fall below $60 per barrel in the short term due to the technical setup of the market, he has been mainly bullish on energy over the past few years.
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby Eli » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 00:42:02

Well Pilot I think you nailed it when you said Bill O'Reily is a dickhead.

Man he is one irritating pompous ass. Bill O comes out of Murdoch's stable of muckrakers and pseudo-journalists and got his start on TV doing Hard Copy which was a tabloid TV show.

Bill O'Reily is just an actor doing his bit and he is just telling people what they want to hear, that is his thing and that is why he blows goats.

There is no chance he is going to get PO because it just does not fit into his phony playing to the common man act. It is three leagues below his depth. His "I am lookin out for you" bit is absolutely phony.
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 00:45:42

To be fair, price gouging IS part of it. Just because a few hurricanes knock out some drilling infrastructure and rigs, DOESN'T make the other sources of oil more expensive to produce each barrel. Taking out refinaries doesn't make the remaining gasoline production capability more expensive to produce each gallon in the other refinaries either.

However, despite this, depletion IS still a big issue. 5 years ago oil may have cost a certain amount to get out of the ground, and now it's double to triple that due to depletion. It will invariably rise in the future as it gets more scarce. The oil industry wants this, as they can use supply and demand even more as an excuse to jack up prices, regardless of the cost to extract and produce the oil. By stifling alternatives, the oil industry makes sure there won't be any significant demand destruction because without alternatives, people NEED the oil. Get the alternatives in place and operational before the crisis point occurs, and the demand for oil will be lacking as production declines, and therefore there is no way prices can be jacked up sky high.

O'Reilly is a fool for not factoring depletion in or ignoring it altogether, and perhaps it's just more of the famous spin he is known for anyway. He is correct about the oil industry price gouging us though. As peak oil drags on, it will only get worse. I'm willing to bet money the idiot continues to not acknowledge peak oil on the otherhand.

There is more to it than simple supply/demand. Increased demand doesn't make the supply more expensive to get to market, but the oil companies will charge more anyway because the market will pay it(Not having any other choice but to do without). Even still, it could be argued that the above still IS price gouging, even if the market is willing to pay it.

As for my opinion of O'Reilly, I tend to think of the word 'bullshit' every time I hear his name, and that is the name I otherwise refer to him as. Got to love how he cut the microphone of the son of that 911 victim who made a rather pertinent point that bullshit could not accept. So much for that fabled 'No spin zone'...
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby turmoil » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 01:12:49

I watch that fucking DICKHEAD purely for entertainment. His "solution" is simple: a boycott, which (I guess) in the mind of the avg american rings powerfully true. Ironically, Fox is probably going to be a new pulpit for conservation.

I can see it now: The New American Conservative Conservationist. :roll:
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby The_Toecutter » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 01:15:41

Yet the average American is not even willing(let alone able) to do that boycott just yet...
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby Ardalla » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 01:39:38

O'Reilly, Bush, Hannity, and that blonde "How to talk to a Liberal" tart -- what's her name? -- don't bother me. Whenever I see their face, I click them into oblivion.

Well, I wish it was that easy.
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby crude_intentions » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 02:11:53

O'Reilly is the worlds biggest ass, his head is so swelled I swear to god he must have to wear lead shoes to keep from floating off. He also decided this week to go after evil political "smear" websites. and which sites made the top of his list? http://mediamatters.org/ and the http://www.thesmokinggun.com/ :P

Now Media Matters points out Bills bullshit and lies on a regular basis, but the smoking gun is not even a political website. They only publish legal documents that have been made available to the public. Like the documents from bills Sexual harassment lawsuit earlier this year. :lol:
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby MicroHydro » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 02:57:57

Don't forget that O'Reilly (or Ailes or Murdoch) shelled out millions of dollars to get back the audiotape of the phone sex call he made to his producer while playing with a vibrator up his posterior. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: O'Reilly's Crusade

Unread postby GreyZone » Fri 07 Oct 2005, 12:21:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Toecutter', 'T')o be fair, price gouging IS part of it. Just because a few hurricanes knock out some drilling infrastructure and rigs, DOESN'T make the other sources of oil more expensive to produce each barrel. Taking out refinaries doesn't make the remaining gasoline production capability more expensive to produce each gallon in the other refinaries either.


This statement demonstrates core misunderstandings of markets. People pay what they are willing to pay. When something is plentiful, some other producer can and will undercut you thus forcing prices to stay relatively low. When there is more demand than supply though, a seller can simply sit on his higher price while the lower price guy gets bought out and he knows that the higher price will still be bought simply because there is not enough supply to go around. Basic economics. Cost of production has zip to do with retail price of anything. It didn't in the past and doesn't now. This is why prices have gone up.

You can call this "gouging" but it's just the market at work. The market is telling all of us that this stuff is scarcer than it was, and thus more valuable than it was. As supplies improve, refineries come back online, and demand drops due to higher prices, we'll start to see prices drift downward some. When that starts to occur on a widespread basis then we'll know there is some surplus back in the system.

Your comment seemed to indicate a basic misunderstanding of how markets work (and have worked for centuries). I certainly do not mean to sound harsh, and if I do, I apologize for that in advance. However, I did feel compelled to address what seemed a basic misunderstanding.
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