[PenultimateManStanding]

I Am Charlotte Simmons is the new novel from Tom Wolfe. It's about a virginal genius girl from the mountains of North Carolina who goes to a prestigious college only to find to her dismay that the scene is all about debauchery and not intellect. I started reading this today and find, as usual with Wolfe, that it is a compelling read. The guy can write! The book features a lot of anglo anorexic girls, jocks who only have to point to get laid, nerdy 'tutors' who keep the GPA's of the jocks up for a palty fee, and lots of wry observances on the lingo, attitudes, and so on. College life is a joke, a sham of what it's supposed to be. Intellectual developement is what it's supposed to be about, in theory. Meanwhile, America loses its edge in anything that matters intellectually, as our old friend Lorenzo pointed out.

[Sencha]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')t's about a virginal genius girl from the mountains of North Carolina who goes to a prestigious college only to find to her dismay that the scene is all about debauchery and not intellect.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', '
')If they're not that interested in math, they have to be somewhat intelligent. Math sucks.
.

[emersonbiggins]

College is what you make of it, just like anything else in life. Studying the merits of college education from the viewpoint of frat boys doing keg stands is asinine and serves to create a straw man for those demonizing education in general.

I fear that this book is but another exercise in the continual debasement of academia, and anything remotely related to it. Vilification of science, engineering, medicine, media, public schools are all part of the grand scheme to shove the unquestioning sheeple back into the pews and confines of organized religion and out of the enlightenment of the humanist movement.

Of course, I haven't read the book.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', '
')Where is this college and how can I get there?

[I_Like_Plants]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', '
')If they're not that interested in math, they have to be somewhat intelligent. Math sucks.

The moral of that story would seem to be, don't go to college. Wish I had read it a few years ago. I agree, college is a joke, always has been. When or if I ever get my degree, I should use it for toilet paper out of spite. As you can probably tell, I'm bitter.

Seems to me like Charlotte could have saved herself the trouble from the get go. She's a genius, what does she need to go to a diploma mill for anyway? Here's the sequel:

She graduates, finds that she can't get a job in her career field, spends several years flipping burgers, and finally lands herself in a job that has nothing to do with what she was educated for. By the time she has the ghost of a chance at having an appropriate career, her knowledge is outdated, her degree too old and is forced to go back to school. Rinse and repeat.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', '.').. so you don't have your Democrat employer requiring you to vote his way or get fired."

[I_Like_Plants]

That's how it in what jobs would hire whites, yes. And even on the mainland USA, in some rather high-level jobs, it's common for employers to put out "the word" on how they want employees to vote. The wrong bumper sticker on your car can get you fired, there was a case like that recently.

And no, never worked for a micky-d's, that was considered too good a job for a white. I'd no sooner expect to see a white working there in a micky-d's than I'd expect to see a white bus driver. Some things just aren't done.

[UIUCstudent01]

OH YEAH!

I find that my life at college is one big party!! WOO!! ALCOHOL AND SEX ALL AROUND!!

Just one big party! yup, yup!

That old-man has no idea! NO IDEA! We don't even study things! It's like one big party!! And we have all these fake majors like business, economics, engineering's, chemistry, physics, biology, and sociology. We should just get rid of these majors - they're all so easy that WE PARTY EVERYDAY! WOO!

That 40-60 year old man has definitely got life in college right!

My life is just one big 80's movie! YEAH!

[UIUCstudent01]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('I_Like_Plants', 'A')nd no, never worked for a micky-d's, that was considered too good a job for a white. I'd no sooner expect to see a white working there in a micky-d's than I'd expect to see a white bus driver. Some things just aren't done.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', 'O')H YEAH!

I find that my life at college is one big party!! WOO!! ALCOHOL AND SEX ALL AROUND!!

Just one big party! yup, yup!

That old-man has no idea! NO IDEA! We don't even study things! It's like one big party!! And we have all these fake majors like business, economics, engineering's, chemistry, physics, biology, and sociology. We should just get rid of these majors - they're all so easy that WE PARTY EVERYDAY! WOO!

That 40-60 year old man has definitely got life in college right!

My life is just one big 80's movie! YEAH!

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('UIUCstudent01', 'O')H YEAH!

I find that my life at college is one big party!! WOO!! ALCOHOL AND SEX ALL AROUND!!

Just one big party! yup, yup!

That old-man has no idea! NO IDEA! We don't even study things! It's like one big party!! And we have all these fake majors like business, economics, engineering's, chemistry, physics, biology, and sociology. We should just get rid of these majors - they're all so easy that WE PARTY EVERYDAY! WOO!

That 40-60 year old man has definitely got life in college right!

My life is just one big 80's movie! YEAH!

[holmes]

It is generally true. I went to Syracuse University. it was bad in 1995-1998 and is getting worse. Hoes and sluts. pimps and drunks and druggies. Jocks getting a free ride fo sure. new ghetto basketball stars first week of semester in brand new pimped out suvs. Gettin mines.
startin fights.
Post PO is gonna be brutal and horrifying. Hopefully "our future leaders" will slaughter each other and clean off Ma earth somewhat before the good folks have to get in the scrum. Cull the herd so to speak.
Rome on mega crack meth booze and roids fo sure.

and we are fightin a war on weed. Good god!

[PenultimateManStanding]

The Mexican cook that I work with is a fine guy. He came from an educated family in Mexico City. He flunked out of college and became the black sheep of his family and emigrated to the U.S. 20 years ago. He flunked out because of the party scene. Sex and drugs and rock'n'roll.

[holmes]

nothing wrong with sex, rock n roll and drugs. But with IQ's dropping like the dow jones. Not a good mix. smoke two joints in the morning smoke two joints at night smoke two joints in the afternoon makes me feel alright. I smoke two joints at times of peace and two at times of war.

Just not too good for keeping a nations brains strong.

nothing wrong with some weekend warrior blasts. Not at all.
and also the crap they still teach us is useless.
they should be teaching ecology and real life stuff. The liberal arts stuff is Party material. Im a big propaonent of hardcore science. the rest is party time stuff.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Well, sex'n'drugs'n'rock'n'roll is designed to make you feel good. Hello feelin' good, goodbye intellect. Sigmund Freud once remarked that education of the young stops once they become sexually active. That may be a bit simplistic, but I think it's essentially true. The plain fact of the matter is that it is painful to abstain. The main theme of Wolfe's book is that the effort to develop one's mind causes social isolation which is just too hard to bear for most kids.

[holmes]

true. My bud and I were "socially" deprived for sure. he was civil engineering 4.0 and me BS Forest resource Management and Environmental Forest Biology and MS Comp Sci 3.6
the library was our brothel. I remember falling asleep at parties with Girlfriend on lap drinking a beer. It was study 7 days a freakin week. Sundays? No football. saturdays lol. Major study day. I look back now and I wish I did a little more sociallizing. but when u had to have at least a 3.0 and he had to have 3.5 at least. what are ya gonna do?

[I_Like_Plants]

Holmes I don't know how you white boys were allowed into decent programs, or found a way to afford to go, but by God it's good to see some of us make it.

[holmes]

Thanks I dont know how either, man. My "minority" "friends" I had got carte Blanche. all expenses payed for sure. I mean one guy had like 1/6 Native American. Full scholarship. never went to class. He partied his ass off. But what are u going to do? then would come to us geeks for handouts.
I wont even talk about the blacks getting full pay in some worthless liberal arts degree that wont do a thing positive for our nation.

I am paying off my loans en mass while I eat beans and rice saving 1000+ a month. riding bike.

I had some help due to grades but not much. But hey its the way it is now.
The strong get beat down while the weak get carte blanche. Makes us stronger and more prepared for our post PO retirement days.

Im trying hard.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', '
')I am paying off my loans en mass while I eat beans and rice saving 1000+ a month. riding bike.